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Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

So I picked up a batch of shards tonight, id say 0.4 grams or so, and already tested the waters @ 0.1g (low tolerance) just to be sure it wasn't some b.s. (definitely is not!). Well so it's been 2 hours and I'm still quite spun ...so how long should I wait before I prepare an even bigger shot for use? Will tolerance already need to be accounted for? Should I sleep some of it off first? Basically I still want the biggest, best rush I can achieve with what I've got left . Willing to wait a little extra longer than normal if that would mean getting a better rush, what do you guys think ?
 
OrbitalCombustion said:
Bro SixthSeal was the best back in the day! That cat would try anything, pretty sure he got canned from a few jobs for doing IV meth in his cubicle lol. Really miss getting lost in his posts while blasted on a good narcotic or psychedelic.
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Yeah he's cleaned up his act long ago. Site was still there last I checked but it's basically a food blog now.
Think he's made a career of writing out of it.

He made an impression on a geeky English kid though. I may check in on him.
 
bbbworship said:
So I picked up a batch of shards tonight, id say 0.4 grams or so, and already tested the waters @ 0.1g (low tolerance) just to be sure it wasn't some b.s. (definitely is not!). Well so it's been 2 hours and I'm still quite spun ...so how long should I wait before I prepare an even bigger shot for use? Will tolerance already need to be accounted for? Should I sleep some of it off first? Basically I still want the biggest, best rush I can achieve with what I've got left . Willing to wait a little extra longer than normal if that would mean getting a better rush, what do you guys think ?
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The longer you wait the easier it will be to shoot it up properly. Meth causes the veins to constrict, I’ve missed numerous shots not being patient enough.
8-10 hours should be ok. You definitely want to come down a bit, maybe eat a little something. Gotta build up those spent dopamine reserves
 
seanzy4dagr8ice said:
question why does meth cause testical pain? I have fired Ice (meth) several time but about two days ago i IVed about 3/10ths and afew hours later the dull constant pain set it. I ended but just lay back and trying to wait it out. Day and a half later pain still there said fuck it and ended up getting a box and shaken cause i could not find any more Ice. So here i am still with sore nads and a great bake to keep me where i want to be. My question is Has anyone had this side effect. And i am curious home nake batchs dont seem to ever rush like Ice is this ya'lls exper.
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Were you aroused or hard when this pain started? Sometimes i get so turned on instantly from the shot that if i watch porn and get hard it seems like blueballs set in within seconds or minutes and the only thing thats relieves this pain is emptying them lol
 
Sounds a lot like Blue Balls Syndrome to me. Google it. I'm not shitting you btw.
 
DoctorMolecule said:
The longer you wait the easier it will be to shoot it up properly. Meth causes the veins to constrict, I’ve missed numerous shots not being patient enough.
8-10 hours should be ok. You definitely want to come down a bit, maybe eat a little something. Gotta build up those spent dopamine reserves
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When I try to max out a stimulant rush I prepare the shot and go to sleep, setting my alarm 90min ahead so I'll wake up really tired. 300mg meth were really pushing it for me (had only taken it twice before , don't think I'll ever do that again. Not planning to anyway. BP nearly doubled within seconds.
 
This thread keeps me sane 😂

I gotta stop going back to the needle.
I don’t know what the hells wrong with my pussy ass veins, I can wait a month or more between shots, eating well and looking after my body, get the most skilled professional to do me up and STILL I blow out a vein.

This round went off beautifully, not the best gear, and clearly it was some caustic shit (but it usually always is) perfect shot, neat and tidy.
Not a mark on me.

15 minutes later I look down because my arms stinging, and my fucking veins blown out!
It was FINE THE ENTIRE SHOT.

I’m thinking there’s either a clot in there that stopped the meth in the vein? Or just really dirty shit?
Now I have a big fucking bruise and a swollen damned vein 😢
 
I got this one hit venous abscess on my left arm like 7 or 8 years ago. Before that the vein was almost impossible to hit despite being very very large. It would hurt like a motherfucker since there is a cutaneous nerve running along its path and would also roll away whichever way I tried to hit it. It would do all kinds of crazy even after I was in, ruining every rush.

Fast forward a year. All the good veins on my forearms are gone (there weren't many to begin with).

So I started hitting the one that had the abscess on it again. To my surprise the scar tissue attached it firmly to the skin. It won't move at all. There's also more resistance so I immediately feel when I penetrate it.

So these days I've come to refer to this vein as 'old trusty'. I don't even need a tourniquet anymore. Spray, wipe, poke, shoot and done in a matter of seconds. A gift from heaven.

Fortunately I haven't shot up on a regular basis since 2015 (else I probably wouldn't be writing this). In fact I've started taking a liking in oral use again, don't ask me how that happened. I'm well aware the monster is merely pacified for the time being.
 
Meth novice 79 said:
This thread keeps me sane 😂

I gotta stop going back to the needle.
I don’t know what the hells wrong with my pussy ass veins, I can wait a month or more between shots, eating well and looking after my body, get the most skilled professional to do me up and STILL I blow out a vein.

This round went off beautifully, not the best gear, and clearly it was some caustic shit (but it usually always is) perfect shot, neat and tidy.
Not a mark on me.

15 minutes later I look down because my arms stinging, and my fucking veins blown out!
It was FINE THE ENTIRE SHOT.

I’m thinking there’s either a clot in there that stopped the meth in the vein? Or just really dirty shit?
Now I have a big fucking bruise and a swollen damned vein 😢
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Do you remove the tourniquet before shooting? It may sound obvious, but I've seen people not doing it lol.

There's a chance you do have a clot I suppose if you regularly experience this with the same vein. There are plenty of other possibilities though. Does this happen with all drugs or just meth?

Next time you manage to get a good shot, put pressure on the injection site. I put pressure both on the site and on the area directly distal to it (distal: towards fingers, not heart).

There is a pressure gradient in your veins. The closer you come to the heart, the lower the intravenous pressure. This means the blood gets sucked towards the heart. If you poke an artery, the blood will shoot out.
If you poke a vein, there should only be slight leakage, unless the pressure inside the vein is too high. If you shoot into an obstructed vein the pressure gradient will reverse. This could cause leakage. However if all your veins look dilated this will NOT be due to a cc of spilled liquid.

What's the concentration of your solution? What you are seeing might just be a reaction to the damage the solution caused. Hyperosmolar solutions are highly cytotoxic, even miniscule amounts will act cytotoxic.

Try 100mg/ml,never ever ever go past 300mg/ml (I didn't do the math again right now, but I am relatively sure about that figure in respect to meth). Also, don't use NaCl solution. Use distilled water instead of you want to keep the concentration high so you can get a faster shot and stronger rush.

EDIT: Plus, let's not forget stimulants are vasoconstrictive and if there is a lot of meth in perivenous connective tissue it will cause ischemic necrosis to some cells. Nerves need oxygen, too, so this would explain the tingling, especially if it lasts past the experience when you keep shooting up this way. 3F-P was by far the worst in this respect. I just mentioned it in the big and dandy that I used to have the most agonizing neurogenic pain back when I shot it on a regular basis.

If you apply the pressure correctly, no meth will leave the vein. By the time you remove the finger the home should be sealed unless you spray disinfectant on it after the shot (or you've had boooze, aspirin and the like beforehand).
Unless you poked through the vein of course or you use a very large needle (I use 26G or 27G).

Another thing that could happen if your solution is indeed hyperosmolar is that some meth enters your connective tissue before penetrating into the lumen or while pulling out. To prevent this: Make sure there is no meth solution on the tip of the needle and also wait at least two or three seconds before you pull out. Make sure to pull out swiftly and immediately apply pressure.
 
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crOOk said:
Do you remove the tourniquet before shooting? It may sound obvious, but I've seen people not doing it lol.

There's a chance you do have a clot I suppose if you regularly experience this with the same vein. There are plenty of other possibilities though. Does this happen with all drugs or just meth?

Next time you manage to get a good shot, put pressure on the injection site. I put pressure both on the site and on the area directly distal to it (distal: towards fingers, not heart).

There is a pressure gradient in your veins. The closer you come to the heart, the lower the intravenous pressure. This means the blood gets sucked towards the heart. If you poke an artery, the blood will shoot out.
If you poke a vein, there should only be slight leakage, unless the pressure inside the vein is too high. If you shoot into an obstructed vein the pressure gradient will reverse. This could cause leakage. However if all your veins look dilated this will NOT be due to a cc of spilled liquid.

What's the concentration of your solution? What you are seeing might just be a reaction to the damage the solution caused. Hyperosmolar solutions are highly cytotoxic, even miniscule amounts will act cytotoxic.

Try 100mg/ml,never ever ever go past 300mg/ml (I didn't do the math again right now, but I am relatively sure about that figure in respect to meth). Also, don't use NaCl solution. Use distilled water instead of you want to keep the concentration high so you can get a faster shot and stronger rush.
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I don’t use a tourniquet, my veins are still pretty fresh as I haven’t used for long or often and they’re always very visible on the surface. Generally just hold my arm to pop them out til I get a register then let go.

It’s definitely one thrombosed vein, i think it’s gone forever too. I have no doubt at all.
And now you mention the blood flow, I think it was rather rapid that shot, I just didn’t think anything of it. Ill keep it in mind and not shoot if I see that again. And I’ll try what you mentioned re after care too next time cheers!

I usually do 1.5 points in 30 mls of water but I’m not entirely sure what this particular mix was as a friend did it. Possibly 40 mls, but it wasn’t as little as 20.
My veins are a bit strange in general too I think, I only shoot meth but I’ve always had strange effects that no regular user has ever seen before.
I’ve had meth pour right back out of a perfect vein as I injected it and end up on the damned floor. Occasionally I’ll go thru periods where I just can’t get a register. I’m in, I know I am because I can see it, but no bloods coming into the barrel, on a perfectly healthy vein It’s like some days they just go nope, not having this today.
 
Meth novice 79 said:
Thank you!
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You can usually inject pretty fast unless you inject more than a couple of cc.
10 units = 1cc = 1ml

You're telling me you're injecting 150mg in 0.3ml water?? I don't you're talking about 3ml, let alone 30ml.

Dude, that is WAY too much. I would recommend 1.5ml for that amount, but at least use a full ml. One full ovations syringe.
The meth is eating away at your tissue. Some people seem to be more resistant to this, but I ain't. You don't seem to be either.

Just reduce the concentration and you'll be fine I think. Let me know how it went next time you use. <3
 
crOOk said:
You can usually inject pretty fast unless you inject more than a couple of cc.
10 units = 1cc = 1ml

You're telling me you're injecting 150mg in 0.3ml water?? I don't you're talking about 3ml, let alone 30ml.

Dude, that is WAY too much. I would recommend 1.5ml for that amount, but at least use a full ml. One full ovations syringe.
The meth is eating away at your tissue. Some people seem to be more resistant to this, but I ain't. You don't seem to be either.

Just reduce the concentration and you'll be fine I think. Let me know how it went next time you use. <3
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You’re the second person to mention this to me.
I’m not an experienced user by any means and just trust a couple of close mates to handle the business end for me a lot of the time, but they definitely do 30 ml per point roughly, or is it .3 and I’m just confused? Don’t have any freshies here to check the gauge lol

That said they’re all long time users who shoot a lot more in a single hit than my pissy little 1.5, several times a day.
And they’re veins are all blown the fuck out too 😂😂😂
Ah shit. I’m gonna have to start doing this myself if I want to keep my veins aren’t I?
 
My entire thumb has a volume of 30ml. That's almost 1/100th of a gallon.

They are probably using 1ml insulin syringes. These can carry 1ml. That is:
1ml
1cm x 1cm volume
0.25" x 0.25"

The scale on the syringe is in 'units' because they are usually used for insulin injections.

So you may be thinking of units. Do they inject 150mg at a time? If a syringe only carries 50mg, then they are using 30 units for 150mg.

How much liquid is in the syringe? One third full? That's be roughly 0.3ml. If that amount carries 150mg,it is way too much.

I've heard of lots of people doing this, probably for the sake of a more intense rush. That's one of many reasons why so many IV users have completely fucked arms.

By the way, that is a fool proof way to get thrombophlebitis. The veins will not take this shit.
 
crOOk said:
My entire thumb has a volume of 30ml. That's almost 1/100th of a gallon.

They are probably using 1ml insulin syringes. These can carry 1ml. That is:
1ml
1cm x 1cm volume
0.25" x 0.25"

The scale on the syringe is in 'units' because they are usually used for insulin injections.

So you may be thinking of units. Do they inject 150mg at a time? If a syringe only carries 50mg, then they are using 30 units for 150mg.

How much liquid is in the syringe? One third full? That's be roughly 0.3ml. If that amount carries 150mg,it is way too much.

I've heard of lots of people doing this, probably for the sake of a more intense rush. That's one of many reasons why so many IV users have completely fucked arms.

By the way, that is a fool proof way to get thrombophlebitis. The veins will not take this shit.
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Yep, you are right it’s 30 units, I’m just blonde lol
And I’ve always done the entire 1.5 in one shot, where most around me are using 2.5 minimum.
So how much would you recommend?
I fear I may not be able to go back to a lesser amount of either water or meth as I’m accustomed to the rush I get at this level.

My ex husband used to make me have 60 (units) per point and I just thought he was a kill joy who didn’t want me to have fun lol

Oops
 
Before I start, something to read for you:

Normal osmolarity of blood/serum is about 300-310 mOsm/L. The tonicity of an IV fluid dictates whether the solution should be delivered via the peripheral or central venous route. Hypotonic and hypertonic solutions may be infused in small volumes and into large vessels, where dilution and distribution are rapid.

Solutions differing greatly from the normal range may cause tissue irritation, pain on injection, and electrolyte shifts. When solutions with extremes of tonicity are infused, fluids shift into or out of cells, including endothelial cells of the tunica intima near the catheter tip and blood cells. The resulting changes in the cell size of the vein wall causes the inflammatory and clotting processes to occur, leading to phlebitis and thrombophlebitis.

The generally accepted upper limit for a peripheral IV is 900 mOsm/L. When the osmolarity exceeds 900 mOsm/L, the ability of the peripheral veins to dilute parenteral infusions sufficiently is compromised, and chemical irritation of the vein intima occurs. Admixtures greater than 600 to 900 mOsm/L are associated with a dramatic increase in phlebitis and should be administered via a central line.

In a brief review of the literature, I couldn't find a 'magic' number regarding the lowest acceptable osmolarity or tonicity of an IV solution. Most people have been taught 0.45% sodium chloride, at 154 mOsm/L, is the lowest osmolarity that should be used via any IV route. Very hypotonic IV solutions such as 1/4 NS (NaCl 0.2%) cause red blood cells to swell and burst. If a sufficient number of RBC's are so affected, the patient may develop anemia. This condition is usually referred to as hemolytic anemia
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So, 150-900mOsm/L is where it's at. Keep that in mind while you read on.

If your syringe only carries 40 units per ml this entire math is off. It's confusing isn't it? Units are not a measure of volume, but of the insuline contained inside that volume. If you use a vial with 100 units insuline per ml, you use a syringe that is labeled 0-100 units, but carries 1ml. If your insuline vial is concentrated at 40 units per ml, one should use syringes labelled 0-40 units. They both carry 1ml though (1ml=1cc).

Just to be certain, can 60 units fit into one of your syringes? There are insulin syringes that can carry 100 units per ml (pretty sure that's the standard in the US). Neither the 60 units your ex hubby drew up, nor the 30 you usually receive would fill the syringe all the way.
Is that correct?

In that case, just to give you an idea what you are doing to your body... A physiological osmolarity is 300mOsm/L.

If you inject a solution with, say 3000mOsm/L, the solution will draw liquid towards it. Both from inside and outside your cells. This will kill cells. That is what you are doing now. 3000 motherfucking milliOsmoles per Liter.

56mg/ml is the physiological concentration of meth. LOL I mean at that concentration, no water will have to move anywhere when the solution comes in contact with your cells. So that's a healthy concentration I guess. :D

Now, the stuff your friends inject you with has TEN TIMES that osmolarity. If you really had a clot and that shit would leak out, you will find a nice big hole where the liquid entered unless the body manages to clear it very fast. That's the only reason why you are not seeing holes in your arms. Most of the liquid you inject enters the vein and gets diluted rapidly. Every miniscule amount that does not end up in your veins will kill the surrounding cells. KEEL THEM DEAD!

So... You want a rush. What you want is the highest possible osmolarity that won't ruin your veins. I would not dare to go past 700, even if it says 900 in that text. Me, whenever I shoot up, I go for 300mOsm/L. If I miss, big fucking deal. I don't have to worry (depends on solvent and substance ofc).

Let's figure out how much water you need for 1.5 points of Methamphetamine HCl. No wait. Since I doubt your friends will buy different syringes because some internet whackjob said so, let's see where you land when you put the 1.5 points into a full syringe.

I will assume your syringe is said to carry 100 UNITS total at a volume of 1ml. They usually easily fit 1.1cc. So:

1.5 points in 1.1cc -> 730mOsm/L

I would not go higher than that. Just use as much liquid as the syringe will fit for your 150mg meth.

That's about 4 times as much liquid as you are used to. In my experience it will not have any significant effect on the rush. Make sure you're in that vein, inject relatively fast. You'll get the same rush. Your arms will thank you for it.

If you didn't understand this, read it again. And again. You've got time for 100 hour meth sessions, you'll have time for this. For your health.
 
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