medcanaware
Greenlighter
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- May 21, 2009
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I have taken the liberty of commenting on a few statements that were made on the subject of Cannabis while you,Mr Rudd, was Labour Leader. Your status had changed, but probably not your views. Please bear with me as I unburden my views.
"Labor leader Kevin Rudd, who also went to Burgmann, said yesterday that smoking marijuana was never part of his scene".
(This is your personal choice, Mr. Prime Minister. Your human right to choose, just as it is your human right to choose the psychoactive drug ethanol when and as often as you so wish).
"I've always had a very tough line on this stuff — really, really hard line," Mr Rudd told the Nine Network. "I'm in John Howard's camp on this one. We have a unity ticket."
Having a unity ticket does not make it right. Many people have 'unity' tickets on the fact that they take a really, really hard line on e.g. homosexuality, single parenthood, women in trousers, alcohol, 'blacks', other religions and so on. Many people had a unity ticket with the Inquisition on so-called heretics. Many people had a unity ticket with Hitler, Stalin and others who killed, imprisoned, made to feel lower than the low etc. anyone they didn't agree with or like, but it didn't make it right. Many people had a 'unity' ticket with those who took the babies away from the aborigines and single 'white' mothers.
"Senator Minchin's views are also quite different today and he actively discourages smoking marijuana".
Smoking anything is not good for you. BUT...cannabis does not have to smoked. These days many people vapourise, eat it in many varied foods, sprinkle it on their food as a spice, drink it as a tea and make tinctures and ointments out of it.
"I have three children" (continued Sr Minchin). "One is in primary, one is in secondary and one in tertiary, and I do spend a lot of my time explaining to them the evils of consumption of marijuana, and do as I say, not what I do," he said.
It would be interesting to know exactly how anti-illicit campaigners spend their time expounding the dangers and evils of the psychoactive drug ethanol, the drug caffeine, the myriad of prescription drugs that are taken from 3 months old through until death and the evils of nicotine.
Alcohol deaths in any one year (avge 3000); Cigarette delivery system deaths in any one year (avge 16,000); caffeine (tr-methyl-xanthine) deaths - (300); prescription drug deaths (10,000); OTC drugs (1,000) and NSAIDS (2,000)
Do the children know these stats? Or do children only get told that alcohol is a 'drink' but cannabis is a 'drug'. No wonder they are confused. (Adults think it's a 'drink' too).
Do the children get told the truth that alcohol kills and is toxic? Alcohol turns into acetaldehyde in the body and is 8 times more toxic than alcohol itself, and unless the liver is very healthy and only an ethanol drug dose per hour is put into the body, the liver has a hard time detoxifying it?
Do people get told that Cannabis does not kill of its own volition, is non-toxic (only the smoke is toxic IF smoked) and has been used victoriously as a medicine and quite safely as a recreational drug for over 5,000 years? (NO drug is 100% safe - including the 'legal' ones. The word 'legal' does not make something safe, healthy or good for you)
If not, why not? Is it because the Government does not want their drug associated with the word drug (which is why it's a 'drink' no matter how many problems it causes...or rather the people cause who consume it) and they do not want Cannabis associated with the word medicine, food, drink, socialisation, enjoyment etc. Those terms are only reserved for the favourite psychoactive drug of most Australians.... ethanol.
Term for this? - hypocrisy in democracy.
There are millions of people in Australia who agree with people being able to choose to use cannabis as their choice of drug (whether recreational or medicinal). We held an 8 day campaign in 2008 and were amazed at how many people of all ages (the eldest we spoke to was 84) felt that the laws for Cannabis were outdated and very, very wrong. Yes, some people abuse cannabis, but some people abuse ethanol (very addictive), caffeine (very addictive), nicotine (very addictive) and even prescribed and OTC drugs. They abuse food and practically all lifestyles. But, just because SOME abuse, does not mean (and should not mean) that everyone who chooses to use responsibly gets punished for it!
People under the age of 18 should not use cannabis, cigarettes and neither should they use ethanol nor, in my opinion, caffeine. And don't get me started on drugs like Ritalin, Panadol etc that are given to our tiny, tiny children as if they were the best thing since sliced bread. Over 18...well, people should have the human right to make their own choice. Parents don't have rights over a child once it gets to 18 and neither should the Government (except for real criminal activities).
I would also like to see Politicians stand before the myriad of medical sufferers who choose to use cannabis instead of, (or as well as), prescribed drugs and say, "Well, you know it works for you and we've heard many testimonies of it working for people, but we are not going to let you have it. We will continue punishing you, even jailing some, take your medicine away from you and instead tell you that you have to only take our prescription drugs even if you get side effects, they don't work for you or you don't want to put our toxic drugs into your body".
Is this the FAIR GO FOR ALL we have heard for years in Australia, Mr. Prime Minister? Is this how a DEMOCRACY should be run - by people dictating to others what they can and can't do with their own lives? Is this a HUMAN RIGHT to force people to kow-tow to what 'you' believe even when they believe something else?
I, personally, do not use cannabis (although have used it twice in the past 4 years to get rid of inflammation of the gum/abscess...and yes, it worked exceptionaly well), BUT....I (with others) am an advocate for the law being changed and for the Government and so-called 'anti-drug' people to stop socially segregating the people, treating them differently, punishing them, fining them, calling them derogatory names like 'loser', 'd-ckhead', 'drug addicts', 'junkies' etc. for doing something they do themselves, and that is to take a psychoactive drug for recreational purposes or medicinal purposes.
You say that you are in unity with Mr. Howard on the subject of Cannabis, well Mr. Howard once said, "It is not the role of Government to tell the people what they can and can't do with their lives". And, you yourself, Prime Minister stated, "Australians must not kow-tow to anybody when it comes to freedom in this country".
Isn't it time that the Government started being in unity and taking notice of all its people and not just some? Isn't it time that the Fair Go For All really meant that, and not just a Fair Go for Some? Isn't it about time that the draconian laws on all choices (except murder etc) were changed, just as over the years the draconian laws on homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, certain books, colour, religion etc. have been changed?...and thank God they have, or you'd have our prisons full of non-criminal people (just like parts of the U.S. and other countries still have).
"Labor leader Kevin Rudd, who also went to Burgmann, said yesterday that smoking marijuana was never part of his scene".
(This is your personal choice, Mr. Prime Minister. Your human right to choose, just as it is your human right to choose the psychoactive drug ethanol when and as often as you so wish).
"I've always had a very tough line on this stuff — really, really hard line," Mr Rudd told the Nine Network. "I'm in John Howard's camp on this one. We have a unity ticket."
Having a unity ticket does not make it right. Many people have 'unity' tickets on the fact that they take a really, really hard line on e.g. homosexuality, single parenthood, women in trousers, alcohol, 'blacks', other religions and so on. Many people had a unity ticket with the Inquisition on so-called heretics. Many people had a unity ticket with Hitler, Stalin and others who killed, imprisoned, made to feel lower than the low etc. anyone they didn't agree with or like, but it didn't make it right. Many people had a 'unity' ticket with those who took the babies away from the aborigines and single 'white' mothers.
"Senator Minchin's views are also quite different today and he actively discourages smoking marijuana".
Smoking anything is not good for you. BUT...cannabis does not have to smoked. These days many people vapourise, eat it in many varied foods, sprinkle it on their food as a spice, drink it as a tea and make tinctures and ointments out of it.
"I have three children" (continued Sr Minchin). "One is in primary, one is in secondary and one in tertiary, and I do spend a lot of my time explaining to them the evils of consumption of marijuana, and do as I say, not what I do," he said.
It would be interesting to know exactly how anti-illicit campaigners spend their time expounding the dangers and evils of the psychoactive drug ethanol, the drug caffeine, the myriad of prescription drugs that are taken from 3 months old through until death and the evils of nicotine.
Alcohol deaths in any one year (avge 3000); Cigarette delivery system deaths in any one year (avge 16,000); caffeine (tr-methyl-xanthine) deaths - (300); prescription drug deaths (10,000); OTC drugs (1,000) and NSAIDS (2,000)
Do the children know these stats? Or do children only get told that alcohol is a 'drink' but cannabis is a 'drug'. No wonder they are confused. (Adults think it's a 'drink' too).
Do the children get told the truth that alcohol kills and is toxic? Alcohol turns into acetaldehyde in the body and is 8 times more toxic than alcohol itself, and unless the liver is very healthy and only an ethanol drug dose per hour is put into the body, the liver has a hard time detoxifying it?
Do people get told that Cannabis does not kill of its own volition, is non-toxic (only the smoke is toxic IF smoked) and has been used victoriously as a medicine and quite safely as a recreational drug for over 5,000 years? (NO drug is 100% safe - including the 'legal' ones. The word 'legal' does not make something safe, healthy or good for you)
If not, why not? Is it because the Government does not want their drug associated with the word drug (which is why it's a 'drink' no matter how many problems it causes...or rather the people cause who consume it) and they do not want Cannabis associated with the word medicine, food, drink, socialisation, enjoyment etc. Those terms are only reserved for the favourite psychoactive drug of most Australians.... ethanol.
Term for this? - hypocrisy in democracy.
There are millions of people in Australia who agree with people being able to choose to use cannabis as their choice of drug (whether recreational or medicinal). We held an 8 day campaign in 2008 and were amazed at how many people of all ages (the eldest we spoke to was 84) felt that the laws for Cannabis were outdated and very, very wrong. Yes, some people abuse cannabis, but some people abuse ethanol (very addictive), caffeine (very addictive), nicotine (very addictive) and even prescribed and OTC drugs. They abuse food and practically all lifestyles. But, just because SOME abuse, does not mean (and should not mean) that everyone who chooses to use responsibly gets punished for it!
People under the age of 18 should not use cannabis, cigarettes and neither should they use ethanol nor, in my opinion, caffeine. And don't get me started on drugs like Ritalin, Panadol etc that are given to our tiny, tiny children as if they were the best thing since sliced bread. Over 18...well, people should have the human right to make their own choice. Parents don't have rights over a child once it gets to 18 and neither should the Government (except for real criminal activities).
I would also like to see Politicians stand before the myriad of medical sufferers who choose to use cannabis instead of, (or as well as), prescribed drugs and say, "Well, you know it works for you and we've heard many testimonies of it working for people, but we are not going to let you have it. We will continue punishing you, even jailing some, take your medicine away from you and instead tell you that you have to only take our prescription drugs even if you get side effects, they don't work for you or you don't want to put our toxic drugs into your body".
Is this the FAIR GO FOR ALL we have heard for years in Australia, Mr. Prime Minister? Is this how a DEMOCRACY should be run - by people dictating to others what they can and can't do with their own lives? Is this a HUMAN RIGHT to force people to kow-tow to what 'you' believe even when they believe something else?
I, personally, do not use cannabis (although have used it twice in the past 4 years to get rid of inflammation of the gum/abscess...and yes, it worked exceptionaly well), BUT....I (with others) am an advocate for the law being changed and for the Government and so-called 'anti-drug' people to stop socially segregating the people, treating them differently, punishing them, fining them, calling them derogatory names like 'loser', 'd-ckhead', 'drug addicts', 'junkies' etc. for doing something they do themselves, and that is to take a psychoactive drug for recreational purposes or medicinal purposes.
You say that you are in unity with Mr. Howard on the subject of Cannabis, well Mr. Howard once said, "It is not the role of Government to tell the people what they can and can't do with their lives". And, you yourself, Prime Minister stated, "Australians must not kow-tow to anybody when it comes to freedom in this country".
Isn't it time that the Government started being in unity and taking notice of all its people and not just some? Isn't it time that the Fair Go For All really meant that, and not just a Fair Go for Some? Isn't it about time that the draconian laws on all choices (except murder etc) were changed, just as over the years the draconian laws on homosexuality, sex outside of marriage, certain books, colour, religion etc. have been changed?...and thank God they have, or you'd have our prisons full of non-criminal people (just like parts of the U.S. and other countries still have).