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HR IV complication. Warning signs to stop during injection. Question about specific scenario.

DopaminePrincess93

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I was wondering what are some not so common signs that means i should stop pushing on the plunger and remove the point.
I attempted to iv a .27 shot of meth mixed with about 30 units of water. Shot was around 45 units. I tied off went for my median cubital because my cephalic has valve problems and scarring that causes it to hit slow and thick shots cause it to block. This is my second time using the median cubital on this arm. The first time was months ago and something similar happened.
I got a flashback in the rig positoned my needle and steadied my rig/hand securely, released my tie and registered. At first the shot was going smoothly about halfway through there was a slight preszure change, pulled back a couple units, blood plumed in but it was slightly darker than before. Once I was 3/4ths in a more severe pressure change. Reregistered and pulled back a plume of extremely dark blood. I pushed in a few more units then I decided to abort.
About 15 seconds later my skin wasnt swollen like a miss but had a red tint over a 5 inch circle starting about one and a half maybe two inches up from the iv site.
My guess is my vein blocked somewhere upstream where there must br scarring.

So I'm guessing pressure change with a darker reregister means you may want to abort the iv.

Anyone have any insight or other idea of what happened?

Anyone have other signs that scream abort shot that aren't commonly talked about?
 

Mr.Deeds

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It sounds like you infiltrated your vein. It could have been due to the angle that you had the needle in relation to the vein, as well as how hard you were pressing on the barrel. The really dark blood is of course a sign that you are in the vein, but I see this all the time at work, good flash back only to see a golf ball of blood swelling up around the vein.

What angle was the needle at? And was it parallel to the vein? How hydrated were you, really dark blood is a sign of dehydration, and dehydration can cause weak vein walls that can rupture from the injection.
 

Jekyl Anhydride

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^ This sounds spot on, as most of Sir Deeds posts are.

The only thing I'd add is after the flash when hand position changes to pressure on the plunger from suction to produce the flash, it's easy to change the needle position, even ever so slightly.

This along with slight, unintended shaking or movement can be all it takes to infiltrate a shot that was positioned correctly, but may have been very close to the far wall of the vessel. when the flash was made.
 

Mr.Deeds

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The only thing I'd add is after the flash when hand position changes to pressure on the plunger from suction to produce the flash, it's easy to change the needle position, even ever so slightly.

This along with slight, unintended shaking or movement can be all it takes to infiltrate a shot that was positioned correctly, but may have been very close to the far wall of the vessel. when the flash was made.
^ Very true. Weak veins tend to fail when switched from negative pressure (registering) to positive pressure (injecting solution). Both of these cause a significant difference in vein pressure, with the suction causing up to -150mmHG and injecting increasing venous pressure up to 250mmHG and higher. Combined with the uncontrolled shaking, it would be very easy to shoot the solution straight through the vein if it was close to the top or bottom walls, or if you press hard enough the entire area will swell and rupture.
 
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