Thing is (and in your case in particular): when drinking anything other than water (as suggested) then you're adding stuff to your "output" as it were not? Which would be defeating the entire object (
unless you favor bean or tomato flavored Tramadol type of thing) (now there's a new one)!
Fuck. I can see an entire range of products here!
Curiously, I could never distinguish any flavor other than urea or a certain little chemical flavor (especially when taking a benzo). Not even ammonia, although when I drank coffee the piss had a "stronger" taste.
But when I was very well hydrated (almost transparent piss), it was almost like drinking tap water. And with a touch of natural lemon, I must confess that I have drunk worse things.
YOU. Just take it easy. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that your new shipment isn't going to last forever. And then we'll be back here discussing yet more ingenious methods! Not something I'd like to see.
No buddy. Enough of piss.
Next time I will try my other crazy idea: Venlafaxine. I hope that this week I arrived at the pharmacies in my town.
I love being a guinea pig.
Curiously: couldn't you grow Coca plants there by you? May give you a worthwhile hobby to begin with. Maybe worth some cash too. Dunno. Just trying to think out of the box and take your mind off of this Tramadol route. As noted: I don't know too much about it and my little brush with it and the results thereof are purely anecdotal. But it seems to me it's perceived as it being an almost benign and weak drug whereas in reality it's way more than that. Almost like it's rather unique in both it's pharmacology and addiction potential. But alright: I may be speaking out of turn here. Just my personal observation(s) based on what I've read around these parts.
I think I finally got to know what your DOC is.
To your question, no. In fact, coca is not grown in Chile. Although marijuana could be planted and it does not seem to be a bad business.
To your conclusion: I'm still not sure on the addiction rate for tramadol. I mean, all those studies can't be wrong and put tramadol at the bottom of the addiction scale right? If not, what would be the problem with these studies? did they take up very small doses? didn't do enough subsequent follow-up? what happens when you have free access to tramadol? is still so benign? It's a very interesting topic.
I think that the first months, when I didn't know much about this drug, I took it more responsibly (funny no?) and even several days I just don't take it. It was when I started reading reports or experiences on Erowid or right here, that I started experimenting with larger doses and finally got hooked. Also, it just came at a very difficult time in my life. As someone asked me elsewhere: "Is tramadol actually that fucking addictive?", I replied: "Nah. It's only addictive for people with mental disorders, like me. Depressive people and shit. It's due to its action on serotonin and noradrenaline."
I have always believed that I have a lot of willpower (months without eating sugar, counting macros everyday, exercising every day or giving up tobacco or caffeine (even though it was for a month) cold turkey).
After the holidays, if venlafaxine works for me, I'd like to try it for a few months. A lot of the tramadol or other drugs, I do it just out of boredom. There are times when I wake up without even craving for it, but the same notifications from this forum on my cell phone make me remember it. I don't know if I'm naive or I like to be some kind of martyr, but honestly I still think I can quit it cold turkey this drug. I think mine is a mixture of addiction and depression. I have always thought that there is a very strong link between the two and if depression can be controlled (an effective antidepressant, therapy, exercises, social life, hobbies, family support, etc.) tramadol will only be a good/bad memory.
I don't know but between my piss sessions and this article that posted
@cowboycurtis a few days ago I've been thinking a lot about this stuff.
Does this article piss me off because I'm one of the ones that need multiple treatments and still fucking up well into my late 20's or is it because this article is dead-wrong? Author seems a bit uninformed on statistics or at least they experienced some kind of anomaly in their addiction. What...
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