KodytheLoadie
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Backstory;
I'm not a heroin addict. I've done a decent amount of it, never been 'addicted' in any way shape or form. I recently gained access to some sub 8/2 sublingual strips. I've never done them, so I researched around (on BL of course!) and decided that, okay sure, I'd grab a couple to try them out. I had pretty much determined that so long as you're not an opiate addict and it's been a few days since you've used opioids, then yes, you can get a high off suboxone. I've confirmed this on my own. You get a nice, sort of noddy, sort of slow, itchy type of thing going on in small doses. Whether or not the heroin addicts on this site consider that to be 'high' or not (there seems to be a huge debate about it) is irrelevant. I do get 'high', in fact it's my favorite things from heroin without all the nasty feelings. The tiredness, the fogginess, the itching, I like those things.
So what happened was I cut a strip into thirds and split with two other people. Then one of them was mentioning, if you dissolve it in warm water, you can snort the strips. Well, I just love putting strange things in my face holes, so I cut my 1/3 in half again, put half under my tongue and snorted the other half in water. The snorting definitely hit me pretty fast. The sublingual definitely kept my buzz going for several more hours. Overall, pretty tasty little treat, IMO. Absolutely not suggesting anyone to go try it, I'm just saying that's the sort of shit my fucked off self enjoys from time to time, responsibly, with my own money that I earned. Anyway, for obvious reasons, I couldn't really decide, with my years of experience and all, which one was better. I pretty much determined that BOTH of them together was nice all around, which brings me to -
Question: Which method of ingestion is the best way in terms of bio-availability or potency/ duration of effect.
-I feel like I should also nip in the bud the four people who are about to respond that IV is the best way to take it. I've never felt that smoking and snorting are such a waste or that I have to resort to using hypodermic needles to injest any substance. Not to offend any current or previous IVers, but I'm a damn narcissist. Honestly, the number one reason that I've never been hardcore 'addicted' to anything is that I have too much fucking self-respect to force my family and my wife to have to tell people that their loved one is an IV drug user. I'm not trying to be rude, so we'll stop the explanations at that.
-Also, if I don't stick needles in my arm, I've definitely never shoved drugs up my ass. I get it, you absorb alot more of most things that way. I just don't NEED to do it, and surely have never WANTED to do it for fun. Do they call it 'plugging' or does that mean something else? Doesn't matter for the problem at hand....
Clarification: I am specifically asking if someone has an answer with some honest-to-god science behind it. Like, obviously, the suboxone company says 'never tear, cut or crush sublingual strips'. I'm guessing their website isn't gonna say 'oh, if you mix it with water you can suck it right down your nose tube for a great time!'... I've read all the 'experts' on bluelight saying that oh snorting doesn't do shit or you're supposed to swallow it or whatever. I can read that stuff. I've been reading it for an hour or two. By scientific answer, I don't mean 'hey Billie J from the north side says he loves to snort those,'. That is a kind of observational science I suppose. It's like Socrates or Plato science. We have a word for that kind of science now, it's called Bad Science.
-So one thing that might be relatively helpful. Maybe if you (I think it'll be hard to write a collegiate annotation for "SWIM, from Bluelight.org"), can say 'Well, my opiate tolerance is at L-level or my bupe tolerance is at M-level. I've done suboxone using A, B, and C methods and noticed the corresponding Ax, Bx, and Cx effects' Like something a bit more specific than, 'You can do it, it works,' you know? I know it works. I've done it, and it worked.
-The very best most awesomest (I'm aware awesomest is like the realestest most smartet sounding word ever spoken (typed?)) thing would be if some real smart, really really badass guy could say like 'Well snorting produces X effect with a half-life of Y while sublingual give an E effect with a half life of F, etc etc'. I'm not expecting someone to go out of their way for me or anything. I don't even have any more of the drugs, I was just hoping to add maybe to Encyclopedia Kody's Random Mind: Drugs Version, published 2000-whenever. Basically I consider it worthwhile and useful information to have stored in the old noodle. Now, if that badass cool guy were able to cite a source, I would just jump straight out of my skin with joy. Jumping out of your skin is apparently a good thing in Loadie Land lol. Or maybe if he was just so cool and sure of his accuracy that he might say something like 'I read it in my prescription info sheet' or 'I saw an article in the New York Times about it in 2013', That would be a decently acceptable source IMO. I mean when Kody knows what the shit he's talkin' about, Kody doesn't cite sources. But he does try to quantify his science at every available opportunity. That's the cool thing to do
---Well I've made myself just about as strange as I presently feel it prudent to, so that's it.
If this has already been covered somewhere else, and one of the mods is gonna be upset with me for posting a new thread, please just let me know and I'll erase it or else you can just erase it yourself, not trying to be some annoying fucker or nothing....
I'm not a heroin addict. I've done a decent amount of it, never been 'addicted' in any way shape or form. I recently gained access to some sub 8/2 sublingual strips. I've never done them, so I researched around (on BL of course!) and decided that, okay sure, I'd grab a couple to try them out. I had pretty much determined that so long as you're not an opiate addict and it's been a few days since you've used opioids, then yes, you can get a high off suboxone. I've confirmed this on my own. You get a nice, sort of noddy, sort of slow, itchy type of thing going on in small doses. Whether or not the heroin addicts on this site consider that to be 'high' or not (there seems to be a huge debate about it) is irrelevant. I do get 'high', in fact it's my favorite things from heroin without all the nasty feelings. The tiredness, the fogginess, the itching, I like those things.
So what happened was I cut a strip into thirds and split with two other people. Then one of them was mentioning, if you dissolve it in warm water, you can snort the strips. Well, I just love putting strange things in my face holes, so I cut my 1/3 in half again, put half under my tongue and snorted the other half in water. The snorting definitely hit me pretty fast. The sublingual definitely kept my buzz going for several more hours. Overall, pretty tasty little treat, IMO. Absolutely not suggesting anyone to go try it, I'm just saying that's the sort of shit my fucked off self enjoys from time to time, responsibly, with my own money that I earned. Anyway, for obvious reasons, I couldn't really decide, with my years of experience and all, which one was better. I pretty much determined that BOTH of them together was nice all around, which brings me to -
Question: Which method of ingestion is the best way in terms of bio-availability or potency/ duration of effect.
-I feel like I should also nip in the bud the four people who are about to respond that IV is the best way to take it. I've never felt that smoking and snorting are such a waste or that I have to resort to using hypodermic needles to injest any substance. Not to offend any current or previous IVers, but I'm a damn narcissist. Honestly, the number one reason that I've never been hardcore 'addicted' to anything is that I have too much fucking self-respect to force my family and my wife to have to tell people that their loved one is an IV drug user. I'm not trying to be rude, so we'll stop the explanations at that.
-Also, if I don't stick needles in my arm, I've definitely never shoved drugs up my ass. I get it, you absorb alot more of most things that way. I just don't NEED to do it, and surely have never WANTED to do it for fun. Do they call it 'plugging' or does that mean something else? Doesn't matter for the problem at hand....
Clarification: I am specifically asking if someone has an answer with some honest-to-god science behind it. Like, obviously, the suboxone company says 'never tear, cut or crush sublingual strips'. I'm guessing their website isn't gonna say 'oh, if you mix it with water you can suck it right down your nose tube for a great time!'... I've read all the 'experts' on bluelight saying that oh snorting doesn't do shit or you're supposed to swallow it or whatever. I can read that stuff. I've been reading it for an hour or two. By scientific answer, I don't mean 'hey Billie J from the north side says he loves to snort those,'. That is a kind of observational science I suppose. It's like Socrates or Plato science. We have a word for that kind of science now, it's called Bad Science.
-So one thing that might be relatively helpful. Maybe if you (I think it'll be hard to write a collegiate annotation for "SWIM, from Bluelight.org"), can say 'Well, my opiate tolerance is at L-level or my bupe tolerance is at M-level. I've done suboxone using A, B, and C methods and noticed the corresponding Ax, Bx, and Cx effects' Like something a bit more specific than, 'You can do it, it works,' you know? I know it works. I've done it, and it worked.
-The very best most awesomest (I'm aware awesomest is like the realestest most smartet sounding word ever spoken (typed?)) thing would be if some real smart, really really badass guy could say like 'Well snorting produces X effect with a half-life of Y while sublingual give an E effect with a half life of F, etc etc'. I'm not expecting someone to go out of their way for me or anything. I don't even have any more of the drugs, I was just hoping to add maybe to Encyclopedia Kody's Random Mind: Drugs Version, published 2000-whenever. Basically I consider it worthwhile and useful information to have stored in the old noodle. Now, if that badass cool guy were able to cite a source, I would just jump straight out of my skin with joy. Jumping out of your skin is apparently a good thing in Loadie Land lol. Or maybe if he was just so cool and sure of his accuracy that he might say something like 'I read it in my prescription info sheet' or 'I saw an article in the New York Times about it in 2013', That would be a decently acceptable source IMO. I mean when Kody knows what the shit he's talkin' about, Kody doesn't cite sources. But he does try to quantify his science at every available opportunity. That's the cool thing to do
---Well I've made myself just about as strange as I presently feel it prudent to, so that's it.
If this has already been covered somewhere else, and one of the mods is gonna be upset with me for posting a new thread, please just let me know and I'll erase it or else you can just erase it yourself, not trying to be some annoying fucker or nothing....
