The way you dose is unfortunately more neurotoxic than if you take the entire dosage at once. A lot of smaller redoses is metabolized much differently than a single larger one. So that’s one factor to keep in mind.
What kind of health effects are you worried of? And magic loss does tend be permanent for many people just a heads up. You don’t ever want to fully get there cuz it’s hard to get out.
It’s my educated theory that magic loss is closely tied with neurotoxicity, I’ve been fairly anal about keeping my antioxidant system topped off when I roll and have yet to experience it.
Besides neurotoxicity, heart valve damage is possible, and pretty sure it can rough on the kidneys as well over time.
-GC
I would never dispute a point you make on this or any topic really, out of merit.
You don't go around just waffling Mr G_Chem! "Grr, he's NOT waffling again."
But I was skimming, wondering if there is anything I could add from my own experience.
You suggest magic loss is permanent for many.
Okay, no comment really, as I really never experienced that, I hacked it all the way, I believe in hacking btw.
But then you hypothesise neurotoxicty may be the cause of magic loss.
Here I feel I can add, as a donated willing test subject, with it's own experiential data logging and revisiting system lol good old Bot!
Because you would expect to see pretty solid constant conjunctions.
Many events of unquestionable major neurotoxicity, real brain assaults, I even suspect a cluster of at least minor serotonin syndrome events from days redosing particular pivotal moments with cross reactons too.
I know it is a bit peculiar, because I don't rave about MDMA did this to me, that tome etc.
Do I? Lol, tbf. Because I really took the hit from it. In as neutoxic and prolonged a usage pattern and level, constant redosing, up to weeks, always days, with any every other drug, use in summer heatwave festivals, saunas as soon as the pool opneed at 9 am still rushing smashed to bits.
It was I believe the 2000 August heat wave, sweltering day and night 3 day Exodus festival, that caused one very significant neurotoxic impact at the end of night 3 when some plasma levels finally reached (further past), tipping point, which was more than plain neurotoxicty and possibly a mini serotonin syndrome due to the prolonged heat, sweat round the clock for 3 nights taking the best best best pills and crystal stll, over my whole life, unbeatable anyway.
I know depite not talking ever about being an MDMA casualty, I personally endured more neurotxicity and direct heavy impacts on brain function and chemistry than any member not presenting as a regretful test puppet, no way ever.
That was then though, I was young, and time did heal.
I had full on neurosis for a few years but shook through it and still lived a full and secure life even while I battled fo resinstate my own mind and voice as the commandong chief, from 2003 suddenly but mentally and emotionally receeded or healed really, by 2004.
I never think to describe or verbalise my "hangovers", the headfuck, the comedown and depression side effects.
Like, we drink to be merry. Not to remember the hangovers right? Lol, well that's my view on it I think.
So I am very fortunate. I don't regret taking MDMA.
I still regret plugging a Milligram of LSD. I'd say it's potentially or surely the single most consequential and life changing in a true drug and psychoactive shake up manner "hit" or delivery of drugs I've ever had.
Even weeks of MDMA and all the shit that cones at the end of it, really seems a park walk vs certain high dose LSD regimens and doses.
I reckon my old chum, Syd Barrett would have looked fucking hilarious on ecstasy not Acid then.
Same level. Eyes rolled instead of pinged open looking rapidly increasingly serious and then phoof gone!
Imagine all those shots of Syd advertising, really advertising LSD to the world IMO more than even Tim Leery the Crowley adoring twat, without ever even mentioning acid lol, on the best ecstasy instead.
I reckon the images would have been just as impactful though very different. One for my imagination.
But, how I really look at it now- I guestimate in my logical head from the very small accounts to get any intuitive logical guauge of actual doses, size, frequency, that Barrett very possibly took as much as 300 mg's of LSD in 1967 alone.
Excluding a suspected or potential undisclosed large overdose.
Possibly. Or say, that amount from diving in heavily to near daily tripping on god knows what doses early 66, until at least 68.
Now, put me in my young body and mind being me give me 1960's and a pharmacy, well I know what I would have done.
Pretty much what Barrett did.
I also guess calculate I must have taken maybe 300 mg's or more LSD myself, always logical likely minimum but not undecomensating either.
In 25 years.
Vs 3500 e's in 9 years.
I never think about MDMA use and it's life impact on me. Never talk about it like that, just the memories and the growth through the experiences isn't lost, it's the tree, when it was only 11 metres high.
Now it's 54 metres tall. You can't take that growth away, just chop it down some day.
I think that's a good analogy to represent the immaterial aspect of personal growth though using psychedelics including MDMA, like don't fret kids, it's all in there. Every scar, ice cream stop and bump in the road. It's got you here. Can't lose that.
I am overwhelmingly conscious of the intensity of LSD's influence on how I think, feel, am!
It's indescribably huge. It's jusy that, IME, LSD has never once, even this current occasion, had any actual negative impct on my brain, memory, personality in a mechanical, biological sense.
MDMA I would be very cautious about taking now as it could upset the apple cart that is the smooth running and stability in my imagination, and verbal fluency, general personality togetherness, in a way that LSD still never has.
The huge dosing remigem of LSD is infintely more mentally physically,enrgy wise, challenging than the MDMA.
So how much will you pay me to enrole?we need two willing study groups.
One group, 300 mg's LSD in one to two years.
The other, what now.... 150 mg's MDMA daily for 2 years?
200 mg's? I don't know maybe more actually, thinking a thousand pills a year, 300 mg's a day at round 100 mg's,
I mean, I wouldn't take on the MDMA now obviously.
But as a younger pup, and now certainly, I would not be cooing with and coming back from that LSD.
The MDMA, it would be my body basically, if that got through, I'd need to pick my head up after.
But there would still be a head to pick up.
It scares me pondering that level of LSD intake. I realise that in this sense, it's so much heavier and more deeply, endlessly, at least potentially altering than MDMA.
MDMA would not have brought us Jugband Blues until maybe 1974? Lol. Not, Decmber the same year the grass was oh so fresh and green.
I get it though. Hence it creeping me. Just 22.5 mg's of Acid yet this year, has changed my world and mind more impactfully and futher than anything before.
But, OG point. I took a much greater level of neurotoxic assault than many users who did lose the magic, and MDMA workwd just dandy for me still in 2005.
Really no magic loss. Substantial acute and accumulative loss of neurons, serotonin, cognition, lost days, weekends!
I really feel you know, as I do with the strange phenomenon of LSD tolerance acquisition which I also appeared to hack seemingly indefinately, that there is a huge immaterial aspect to this.
Involving the consciousness. The magic loss or not, I mean.
