Well I've taken the sub and have had no symptoms or PW. This was 4 hours ago, surely they would have started by now? maybe because I take methadone ocassionally to help with pain and low doses -hence why I do not get any symptoms. I've never had PWs in my life, even when I used heroin/opiates/tramadol on top of bup I never felt any symptoms, I've even taken bup 5 hours after dope and never felt bad. Maybe my metabolism, biological makeup and regular excercise has a lot to do with it, maybe because I do not do short acting opiates regularly nor the methadone, that I come away scott free when it comes to alternating sub, meth and opiates, who knows. But for now am not feeling any symptoms. I took 20/25mgs of methadone 28 hours ago, then 2mgs of bup, here I am 4 hours later with no symptoms at all. I've also come off a 8 year bup habbit without much withdrawals, I recovered in 2 weeks and even then that was not bad, so I do believe am one of those lucky ones who has certain body chemistry that I get less withdrawals then others.
What I plan to do now is alternate between bup and methadone, take sub for 1 or 2 weeks then methadone for a week, so on, that way I can save some bup to taper later and also save meth, I want to do this so during the Summer my knee pain is in order with the methadone, and so I can comfortably continue doing my sports and cardio.