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chinup said:
@Arnold does Malinois get on with cats? and potentially with small humans later on? i've started wanting a dog though also i really shouldn't cos my older cat maxwell couldn't cope and i have to put her needs first.
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amazing dogs but take up tons of time and energy...if you're thinking about starting a family you may be underestimating how much time will be taken up with a kid (hint...pretty much all of it)
 
thanks for your detailed description @Arnold . from what i can tell all the dogs i like have a high prey drive, its a bit worrying as someone who has never had a dog. i grew up around cats. i would be prepared to put time in to train but obviously right now i just don't have the skills. but its good to know its not a complete nonstarter with cats cos i'm always gonna have cats.

and yes @ageingpartyfiend totally take your point, i'm more planning for the future right now. my boyf is dead set against getting a dog so i need at least one child that is verbal to back me up before i can take this step, and also i really do need to consider my older cat, she's 13 and she did not cope well with the introduction of my younger cat so its more like succession planning because i can't do that to her now. but i just love all animals and i really see a dog in my future. if i somehow make it rich and get a large plot of land i'd totally get something really big, met a lovely beauceron puppy i'd have had her any day! border collie or husky would be amazing too but if you don't have the space and time for their exercise and intellectual stimulation its just cruel.
 
If a Malinois is your first dog in a family situation it can be done but only with a professional trainer who knows the Malinois breed.
Anything else forget it.
You treat the dog right he will die defending you, wait till you've handled one to actually realise the potential power that you're holding on a leash.
In a previous posted video the French police consider the Malinois to be a weapon...

My introduction to dogs was a rejected police trained German shephard as that one didn't like to bite humans.
They all got their unique traits.
That dog when I was 8 years old used to grab me by the bottom of my trousers and hold me upside down just to play with me.
 
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chinup said:
@Arnold does Malinois get on with cats? and potentially with small humans later on? i've started wanting a dog though also i really shouldn't cos my older cat maxwell couldn't cope and i have to put her needs first.
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A puppy/new dog is worse than having a baby. They need so much work and attention to train and to control.

It’s a really big decision. We got a black Labrador 3 months before I had my son. We worked super hard with that dog. They are mental puppies, they need so much work it’s unreal. She was mad, we worked hard to train her and she was great but I spent hours upon hours to study and train her. It was exhausting. I was lucky I had the time. She was an amazing dog, my son grew up with her and loved her and she loved him and our cats. She was trained so well. She kept to heel, she obeyed every command. She was great. She was unfortunately poisoned last year and died. I was devastated and so was my son.

I think it’s great to let kids grow up with dogs and cats. I think though that you need the full info before deciding. If that makes sense.
 
chinup said:
thanks for your detailed description @Arnold . from what i can tell all the dogs i like have a high prey drive, its a bit worrying as someone who has never had a dog. i grew up around cats. i would be prepared to put time in to train but obviously right now i just don't have the skills. but its good to know its not a complete nonstarter with cats cos i'm always gonna have cats.
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Letting a malinois know where his spot is in the household is as simple as by saying good morning first to everybody else in the family like every cat/chicken and then the dog which means before you've even made eye contact with him...
It will let the dog know it's spot in the family.
Once you've done that you can pet him and treat him like a baby....
Totally little things which make a big difference in his behaviour.
 
MsDiz said:
A puppy/new dog is worse than having a baby. They need so much work and attention to train and to control.
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thanks! i'll bear than in mind. while be a long while yet anyway. so sorry about your dog, i think i recall @Arnold saying something similar had happened to one of his too.

i definitely wouldn't consider getting a puppy as a first time dog owner. when i got my kitten i thought i'd read up enough and had already had maxwell for a decade so considered myself an experienced cat owner. well, no amount of reading can prepare you. luckily i had a friend who could go in and check on him in the day and i was coming back at lunch so he never went more than 4 hours on his own.

thankfully he seems to have turned out great character wise but has some confidence issues. he took 3 months to learn going out the catflap despite being fine coming in, and i only got him to start going out himself by keeping him in and going outside. he's a right mummy's boy. was peeing indoors sporadically a lot too, which the vet said will have been due to being scared by neighbourhood cats.

MsDiz said:
I think it’s great to let kids grow up with dogs and cats. I think though that you need the full info before deciding. If that makes sense.
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it does make sense. everyone i know who had a dog as a kid absolutely loved it, even my mum who is now a bona fide cat lady. but i would need to think carefully about what i could give a good home to as a first time owner with no previous experience.

i have patience and compassion, wolfie peeing by my front door has at least taught me that no matter how frustrated i get, i don't act out to the animal.
 
Stoned as a goose on Sunday eve

Been able to smell 100% better than last 4 years for no apparent reason for full three days now and the world disgusts me; stinky stink is everywhere
 
chinup said:
@Arnold does Malinois get on with cats? and potentially with small humans later on? i've started wanting a dog though also i really shouldn't cos my older cat maxwell couldn't cope and i have to put her needs first.
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This is what you're potentially having to deal with.
I'm no expert but I could guess why he changed.

Deffo time to call in the experts.
The puppy was fine and lovely to start off with then it started attacking everything.
It was fine with the kids and everything for the first two days then it totally changed.

It's not even a quarter the size of a fully grown one. =D.

I know a few people who own a Malinois like this.
One owner and anything else can go a fuck themselves.
They're go happy with their Malinois.
 
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These are my favourite breed around here; the blue ones look spectacular

One of our dogs is half ridgeback, half something very black and hairy and has a lot of the very good hunt/defend traits the breed has also. Smart dogs
 
LoginNotSecure said:
@Arnold you just keep giving huge lists of reasons as to why the dog should be banned.
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Ehm nopes I'm just giving you total reasons them dogs are not for everybody who think they can be clicker or treat trained as some of the instagram/youtube crowd makes you believe.
Hence hopefully actually preventing people from getting this dog breed.

One ought to ban idiots who want a dog/Malinois to protect them because they are weak from owning dogs.
That's where 90% of the dogs 'bad' behaviour stems from.
This is just stating facts.


I could go on an even bigger rant.
Don't go there.
 
Jackal said:


These are my favourite breed around here; the blue ones look spectacular

One of our dogs is half ridgeback, half something very black and hairy and has a lot of the very good hunt/defend traits the breed has also. Smart dogs
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Never even heard of the Thai Ridgeback.

Descendant of the Rhodesian Ridgeback?
 
LoginNotSecure said:
@Arnold you just keep giving huge lists of reasons as to why the dog should be banned.
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Honestly everytime you open your mouth is the reason I first google medical stuff and totally research stuff myself before attempting to even visit a doctor as you totally fall in to the bracket of the 'doctor' who thinks he knows it all and when it all boils down to it knows fuck all in the end of the day.

'Knowledge of everything' master of nothing.

I'm clever I managed to do five years of parrot stuff, anything else than parrot stuff I can be fucked.

Enormous amount of experience and knowledge on that front too on what a band of full of shit useless cunts they can be.
I've got a long list of 'doctors' who in the end of the day don't know their arse from their elbow when it boils down to it.

I've also know one who's now retired who did tell me the way it is and did know the difference between his arse and elbow.

My most recent encounter of this type of 'doctor', was that he didn't know that stomach problems in a person who's 79 years old can actually be a symptom of a fucking heart attack.
Utter numpty again.
He was my own doctor too.
Not any more.

Honestly I even had a go at my vet about something where she didn't know her arse from her elbow once again as I rightly thought life or death with my pooch I made it clear.
Luckily for her who what I am can be like went around here is this a backyard gossip dump and she promptly forwarded me to one of the best vet surgeons out there.
Smartest thing she's ever done.

That surgeon was and is totally brilliant.
If your pet needs surgery and don't mind spending the dosh I know a really good one who tells you like it is.
 
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Arnold said:
Never even heard of the Thai Ridgeback.

Descendant of the Rhodesian Ridgeback?
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Without doing Google, I'd say it's more likely the other way around, if related at all


I was sat at a bar earlier and some loon threw me keys to a 1800cc cruiser Honda

Heavy pig, sounds good tho
 
Jackal said:
Without doing Google, I'd say it's more likely the other way around, if related at all


I was sat at a bar earlier and some loon threw me keys to a 1800cc cruiser Honda

Heavy pig, sounds good tho
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I've done some googling for you.

History​

The Thai Ridgeback is an old breed which can be seen in archeological documents in Thailand written about 360 years ago. It was used mainly for hunting in the eastern part of that country. People also used it to escort their carts and as a watch dog. The reason why it has kept its own original type for so many years is due to poor transportation systems in the eastern part of Thailand; it had fewer chances to crossbreed with other breeds. Today, the breed is still very rare outside of Thailand.
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You could be right.
 
@LoginNotSecure you can 'laugh' at my posts as that is the only thing you can do.

It's like my uncle who suffered from 'back' problems for years and was complaining about the pain spreading to his legs.
He'd seen umpteen doctors and specialists for years.

He never replied to me if he had sciatica as I warned him if it wasn't that he ought to look for other causes as I knew one bloke whose back problems got finally traced back to brain cancer.

Do I have to explain the outcome of that one?

'Doctors' and making shirty comments that's going to see a quick ending here trust me.
 
I could explain the shit with them tools from the public prosecutors/CPS, corrupt pedo tosser from the police complaints authority.


Total duddle that one =D.

Wrong cunt here.
 
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