LaGaFàNi
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If you need 50mg to feel anything out of meth, IT'S NOT METH (or meth cut with 80% MSM).
Meth in unexperienced users is well active at 5mg (statement). 100mg REAL meth at once would have you jump trough the roof, give you close to fatal arrythmia -'pumping failure'-, and the worst 16-24h you'll ever live in your life (EDIT- according to NCBI; chronic (ewy-day) 2years+ users might be fine (by upping dose ewy day since x years before achieving like 90% loss of their D2 receptor affinity allowing more DOPA without going mad) (statement). And even if you've been using for a long time and consider yourself qs having a big tolerance, you should know that 30-50mg meth would already be more than what Hitler took every day (still true, after a certain point it has a ceiling) (biggest tweak ever!).
Just joking but anyway, you should know that back when there was still meth being sold by the US bigpharma, people would use 15-20mg (3-4 tabs) "grand-max" a day and still be tweaking their eyes out.
Lots of the "meth" on the streets in the US is now alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone, or A-PPP.
Why is it sold as meth? It tests positive for meth whenever cops run their overdated tests on it, or when urine is tested. It gives effects that are the same (closer than any other RC, stronger than amp.), and it has a 6000% benefit margin (for the bigger organisations this pretty much becomes 500-1000% benefit "per echelon" and 2000-3000% benefit for the highest upper echelon. Also when in the old days a meth-head would go score his real meth (unwatched methylamine and P2P days) it'd be 1 or 2 grams/week, and that was largely sufficient, even when shooting like a fiend.
But with this A-PPP the client uses 5 to 10x more by weight, yet doesn't know what the real dosage for meth should be, or considers it as "tolerance" and just spends 10 times as much money!
The operations are so much easier for dealing organisations, it's just crazy! They don't have to synth anything ( you don't even want to know how much easier for them this is) and could import -100s of- Kilos at a time and if caught get away with it by claiming it's not for human consumption! The dealers on the low side (those who get caught 95% of the time) won't face prison times as big as for selling meth (if they even know that they're not selling meth!). They can just claim that they know people who told him they'd be interested into "researching" these chemicals and that it's the reason why he's carrying. (a judge wouldn't mind, but jury most often does, some "RC" has to be safer than meth, right?)
When I nowadays read TRs where guys IV 200mg "meth", I can't stop myself from laughing; any real meth would kill a man at 200mg IV (yes even you), no doubt about it.
All these dealers do is turn kilos of brownish a-PPP they get for 700-1000$Kg (!) into shiny translucid crystals ressembling meth by turning it into powder, rinsing it in acetone (or something else whatever), then filtering it and recrystalizing it from toluene/benzene etc into nice big white chunks that ressemble meth 100%, which they'll sell bulk for 20000/50000$ depending on location, and 50000-1xx000$ in retail! Also the consumer doesn't notice! Melting/smoking is the same, water solubility is the same (a tidy bit less than meth, goes unnoticed), effects remain 6-8 hours followed by 2-3 hours residual stimulation (not unlike D,L-Meth).
For a-PPP, low tolerance users feel good with 20mg, and "tweak hard" with 75+mg. The usual reported doses are 75-100mg, some to over the 200mg (higher on polish forums ofc..), so all these reports about "meth" being used at 50mg+ doses (IV!) are making me more than sceptic about what's being sold in the US. (even with amp. sulphate you don't use doses as high!)
Anyway even if it's A-PPP (50-90% chance I'd say -a connect to some Mexican cartel retailer could be useful (only reliable source of "real meth" IMO)), you'll most probably enjoy it as much as meth as it is very similar (same) on its own to meth. You can easily test your meth BTW, but I won't talk about it here. (test your meth for PVs or cathinones, not for meth!)
Yes test your meth for PV's and cathinones, because you should also know that some of the "meth" being sold can also be ephedrone, in which case you're to be considered lucky. It's made for 2% of the price its costs to make meth from ephedrine! (some sodium/chlorine I think , eyh?
). But still it's more probable to be sold a-PPP, it's cheaper than ephedrine!
I hope people with start realising they're being ripped of harder than when they buy an Iphone, when what they use as "meth" is used 100mg+ at at time.
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Meth in unexperienced users is well active at 5mg (statement). 100mg REAL meth at once would have you jump trough the roof, give you close to fatal arrythmia -'pumping failure'-, and the worst 16-24h you'll ever live in your life (EDIT- according to NCBI; chronic (ewy-day) 2years+ users might be fine (by upping dose ewy day since x years before achieving like 90% loss of their D2 receptor affinity allowing more DOPA without going mad) (statement). And even if you've been using for a long time and consider yourself qs having a big tolerance, you should know that 30-50mg meth would already be more than what Hitler took every day (still true, after a certain point it has a ceiling) (biggest tweak ever!).
Just joking but anyway, you should know that back when there was still meth being sold by the US bigpharma, people would use 15-20mg (3-4 tabs) "grand-max" a day and still be tweaking their eyes out.
Lots of the "meth" on the streets in the US is now alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone, or A-PPP.
Why is it sold as meth? It tests positive for meth whenever cops run their overdated tests on it, or when urine is tested. It gives effects that are the same (closer than any other RC, stronger than amp.), and it has a 6000% benefit margin (for the bigger organisations this pretty much becomes 500-1000% benefit "per echelon" and 2000-3000% benefit for the highest upper echelon. Also when in the old days a meth-head would go score his real meth (unwatched methylamine and P2P days) it'd be 1 or 2 grams/week, and that was largely sufficient, even when shooting like a fiend.
But with this A-PPP the client uses 5 to 10x more by weight, yet doesn't know what the real dosage for meth should be, or considers it as "tolerance" and just spends 10 times as much money!
The operations are so much easier for dealing organisations, it's just crazy! They don't have to synth anything ( you don't even want to know how much easier for them this is) and could import -100s of- Kilos at a time and if caught get away with it by claiming it's not for human consumption! The dealers on the low side (those who get caught 95% of the time) won't face prison times as big as for selling meth (if they even know that they're not selling meth!). They can just claim that they know people who told him they'd be interested into "researching" these chemicals and that it's the reason why he's carrying. (a judge wouldn't mind, but jury most often does, some "RC" has to be safer than meth, right?)
When I nowadays read TRs where guys IV 200mg "meth", I can't stop myself from laughing; any real meth would kill a man at 200mg IV (yes even you), no doubt about it.
All these dealers do is turn kilos of brownish a-PPP they get for 700-1000$Kg (!) into shiny translucid crystals ressembling meth by turning it into powder, rinsing it in acetone (or something else whatever), then filtering it and recrystalizing it from toluene/benzene etc into nice big white chunks that ressemble meth 100%, which they'll sell bulk for 20000/50000$ depending on location, and 50000-1xx000$ in retail! Also the consumer doesn't notice! Melting/smoking is the same, water solubility is the same (a tidy bit less than meth, goes unnoticed), effects remain 6-8 hours followed by 2-3 hours residual stimulation (not unlike D,L-Meth).
For a-PPP, low tolerance users feel good with 20mg, and "tweak hard" with 75+mg. The usual reported doses are 75-100mg, some to over the 200mg (higher on polish forums ofc..), so all these reports about "meth" being used at 50mg+ doses (IV!) are making me more than sceptic about what's being sold in the US. (even with amp. sulphate you don't use doses as high!)
Anyway even if it's A-PPP (50-90% chance I'd say -a connect to some Mexican cartel retailer could be useful (only reliable source of "real meth" IMO)), you'll most probably enjoy it as much as meth as it is very similar (same) on its own to meth. You can easily test your meth BTW, but I won't talk about it here. (test your meth for PVs or cathinones, not for meth!)
Yes test your meth for PV's and cathinones, because you should also know that some of the "meth" being sold can also be ephedrone, in which case you're to be considered lucky. It's made for 2% of the price its costs to make meth from ephedrine! (some sodium/chlorine I think , eyh?
I hope people with start realising they're being ripped of harder than when they buy an Iphone, when what they use as "meth" is used 100mg+ at at time.
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