RCs Flubromazolam

[MercuryWinter]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Heyguys this is my first post and I'd usually introduce myself but I'mdesperately looking for some answers. Please feel free to move thisto a more relevant section, it isn't strictly about vendors but itdoes relate to it. It's a long one so if you could bear with me itwould be massively appreciated [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Here'sa bit of background[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Ihave experimented with benzos before and have a tendency to abuse/binge on them despite them doing nothing for me for the most part.Back in March after a month of moderate daily abuse I got into asituation where I couldn't access my pills (Short acting ones, fairlysure they were clonazolam) as I'd stayed overnight at a friends andleft them there accidentally. l left in the morning as he had workand then plans in the evening so I had to wait until at least thenext day to get them back. I was aware of the dangers of benzo abusebut naively thought I was ok and not addicted, however as the dayprogressed it became clear I wasn't ok. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Inthe morning as my friend was getting ready for work it was apparentthat something wasn't right; by then last dose would have beenroughly 12-hrs before. As I was getting ready to leave I was gettingvery strange symptoms. I couldn't concentrate, at points I couldn'tspeak or get my words out, was getting very confused and havingmemory problems and angering my friend as I'm sure he believed Iwould be fine and was over-reacting but making him late for work.Eventually about 9:am I had to leave his house despite me feelingthis wasn't a good idea. My pills and money were in my wallet which Iwas unable to find in my bag whilst I sat outside his house for aboutan hour looking for them whilst trying/hoping my head would start toget back to normal. Eventually it dawned on me that my wallet was inthe house somewhere and I had no pills or money. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Iwas a long way from home and just wanted to get back to bed. Myfriend worked literally a half hour walk away so he reluctantlyagreed to meet me there to give me money to get home. I began thewalk over and this is where the symptoms started to get very odd anddisturbing. It was a walk in a city that I've grown up in and knowlike the back of my hand, yet I was so confused/delirious it took me6 hours of wrong turns and stops trying to 'get my head straight' tofinally reach him. Finally I got home at about 3pm and went straightto bed exhausted assuming I'd sleep it off. Next thing I know it'sabout 7pm, I'm on the floor of my room surrounded by my parents and 2paramedics informing me I'd had a seizure. On the way to hospital Ihad another more severe seizure that led to a Cardiac Arrest and wasvery very lucky to survive. My first question is, does this soundlike benzo withdrawal?[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Mysecond question relates to an unfortunate relapse that thankfully Iam in the process of getting help for, am guaranteed a supply ofbenzos as well until I see a specialist and receive the correcttreatment; hopefully a valium taper as detox was horrible. The firsttime I was fortunate enough to be only mildly addicted that I couldbe given valium strictly as and when needed (I didn't want to takeany to be honest but at one point it got pretty bad that the nursesmade sure I took some, in my 4 days there I only took 2 benzos, bothof which I feel were too low a dose to help with as the temazepam didNOTHING for the insomnia and the valium the nurses gave me still ledto a seizure though admittedly I can't blame them as I was reluctantto take it) with ?oxcabazepam? an anti-seizure drug, being the mainline of treatment to get me through, it didn't help the horrificwithdrawals (most disturbing/strange/terrifying thing I've beenthrough, I can't imagine what it must be like for those with a moreserious addiction) and I still had another seizure (the one mentionedearlier after reluctantly taking valium), though a mild one comparedto the 2 previous ones.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Mysecond question relates to my relapse. I was naive when leaving theward and didn't make full use of the services available to me to staysober as I naively thought that I'd just made a silly mistake and hadlearned from it; after all I'm only 23, 22 at the time and whilst mytime at the detox ward was amazingly helpful it was not a place Ifelt somebody like me should be, but after this relapse I now acceptthat I am somebody with a drugs problem who needs support which I amin the process of addressing. However I have noticed some concerningthings, which is why I've placed this in the vendor section.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Ihave been advised to simply keep taking the RC's until I get onto amedical taper and control my usage as much as possible (Believe meI'm doing all I can, e.g trying to figure out roughly what dose ofvalium im on per day etc and all the information I can gather tohopefully help the Dr's, however this recent binge has lasted justover a month and today i have taken 14x0.25mg flubromazOLAM, not pam,OLAM (and as this post demonstrates I am able to function and type asnormal/or at least to a coherent level for someone who's taken such ahigh dose) the supposedly super potent, pills from [Vendor removed]- a vendor that I thought was trustworthy and reliable - I've evenhad drugs from them tested for purity etc and they've turned out tobe legit, admittedly this was going back a few months. Now I knowthat this is an insane amount of F-LAM again to clarify, F-LAM, notF-pam and I didn't take them all at once. I started off with 5x.25mgand felt very little relief and added more and more, waiting eachtime in between redosing to make sure it had kicked in. It's now9:30pm, nearly 12 hours since my first dose and the only thing I'vefelt is relief from impending withdrawals once i got up to taking 14pills. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Ieven took 2x4mg Nifoxipam as I still didn't feel right. Myunderstanding is that I should have been completely blasted by theinitial 5 pills I took this morning but instead I've had a ratherproductive day and been able to think straight and concentrate forthe first time since my supply dropped to below my usual level andget things done that I haven't been able to during the weekend. I'veasked countless people who know all about my problems and they havestated that it seems like I'm either on nothing or just a littletired, but nothing alarming or out of the ordinary. [/FONT]



[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Doesanyone have any idea how I can be withstanding such a dose? I feel alittle tired admittedly but nothing special and only felt tired sinceI took the nifoxipam and spent a couple of hours wandering aroundtown shopping with some friends this evening. Have turned into avendor that is no longer reputable and been selling me sugarpills/underdosed pills? (I'm nearly 100% certain that at least someof their pellets are legit having felt the definite expected effectsfrom some very recent purchases as well as noticing early warningsigns of withdrawal when I've been running low, thankfully I wasusing Diclazepam and Fpam at the time which both have long halflives).[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Theonly alternative I can think of is that somehow within just over amonth my tolerance has absolutely skyrocketed to alarming levels - isthat even possible?![/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]AsI said I am currently in the process of getting treatment for myproblem and have an assessment next week on the best course of action- please don't lecture me on how stupid what I've done is, I am fullyaware. Even the smartest people do stupid things, especially whenthey're in a desperate situation and haven't learned how to ask forhelp or the correct coping mechanisms which is yet another issue Ihave that I will be addressing in treatment.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Sorryfor such a long first post but any help or advice would be greatlyappreciated. Anything you feel I've missed out I will be more thanhappy to answer![/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]TL[/FONT]:D[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]R- Has anyone else had problems with [vendor removed]'s Flam or have[vendor removed] simply gone downhill massively in the last fewmonth; or has my tolerance simply skyrocketed? Or I guess there's a4th option that I'm absolutely trashed making no sense but thinking Iam however I'm sat about 2 metres from my mother and I'm sure she'dhave noticed any signs of massive overdose.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Thankyou in advance for any help or advice guys, or even for just readingthrough this dam novel![/FONT]

 

[Zerwas]

Welcome to Bluelight,

I havent read your whole post but any Vendor discussion is not allowed here so I suggest to edit your post respectively.

 

[MercuryWinter]

Hey Zerwas thanks for your reply. I apologise for breaching the rules - I joined three forums last night and got a bit confused (benzo addict and whatnot, no excuse but it makes these things happen easier unfortunately) as some allow 'subtle' or indirect references to vendors outside of Threads specifically to do with vendors.

I'm new to using forums well haven't used them for the last ten years so I hope my edit has worked, otherwise feel free to take whatever action necessary to rectify it . I may have a chance to later but I'm away until Monday from this afternoon onwards where internet access can be tricky and Unfortunately this morning Im in a massive rush and whilst I have lurked on these forums for a while and had a decent idea of most of the obvious rules I'm sorry for flouting this one! I'll read through them all properly asap - I understand the rules are there for a reason and to ensure everything runs smoothly and and as efficiently as possible! I'll also make better use of the search function on what to do/what not to do etc or if you have easy access to a link you could send me then great, though I imagine just making sure I thoroughly understand the rules will help!

Finally sorry if this is a bit garbled in a huge rush and my mum is in one of her let's stress him out as much as possible modes. Anyway to end thanks for your friendly advice and for even reading some of my stupidly long post! Have a lovely day!

 

[Morphling]

Your tolerance has skyrocketed due to the flam. That stuff is the devil, I had such a bad experience with it. It has such a long half-life and is soooo strong. God I couldn't walk when trying to get out of bed, total gelly legs, it's such a strong muscle relaxer. I took a mg and blacked out and ate the whole supply.

Bad, bad experience with that stuff.

I am not shocked at all that mazzies didn't help your sleep at all if that's what you've been taking.

I think you'll need a very long, very slow taper.

There is a mega-thread for this RC, I believe. Do a search for it.

Sorry I can't give better advice.

 

[Hecticus]

The Flubromazolam sound like duds or else you have a huge tolerance. To be honest i wouldn't bother with the shit, Clonazolam is way better but is unfortunately more prone to abuse and dependence.

I think you should order Flubromazepam or Diclazepam to hold yourself over(preferrably flubromazepam due to the longer half-life) and only use enough to keep anxiety at bay instead of getting smashed because you have alot of pills. If you can't manage that good luck tapering on Diazepam.

 

[dez79]

Slow taper using clonzepam would be my advice best wishes

 

[MercuryWinter]

Slow taper using clonzepam would be my advice best wishes

Yeah I'm really hoping I can get a taper if it is due to tolerance well ideally these are just duds and I still have a relatively 'safe' tolerance. I hear Klonopin has an even longer half life than valium but I'm not sure if it's even prescribed here in the U.K or something they would even consider if valium is available.

The Flubromazolam sound like duds or else you have a huge tolerance. To be honest i wouldn't bother with the shit, Clonazolam is way better but is unfortunately more prone to abuse and dependence.

I considered them being duds and I'm really hoping they are but all evidence so far points the other way. I've been wanting to know if a certain vendor that usually has a good reputation has gone downhill or been using duds (I trust said vendor because I've had drugs tested off them before that have turned out to be legit and powder that contained purely what it said it did, if it's not against the rules and you feel you can help would i be able to pm you the name of the vendor in case you have any information regarding yours or any others experience of the quality of their flam?

I think you should order Flubromazepam or Diclazepam to hold yourself over(preferrably flubromazepam due to the longer half-life) and only use enough to keep anxiety at bay instead of getting smashed because you have alot of pills. If you can't manage that good luck tapering on Diazepam.[/QUOTE]

Your tolerance has skyrocketed due to the flam. That stuff is the devil, I had such a bad experience with it. It has such a long half-life and is soooo strong. God I couldn't walk when trying to get out of bed, total gelly legs, it's such a strong muscle relaxer. I took a mg and blacked out and ate the whole supply.

Bad, bad experience with that stuff.

I am not shocked at all that mazzies didn't help your sleep at all if that's what you've been taking.

I think you'll need a very long, very slow taper.

There is a mega-thread for this RC, I believe. Do a search for it.

Sorry I can't give better advice.

Firstly thanks for your response. I have read parts of the megethread but didn't realise how badly this stuff could affect you. Yesterday I had a total of 14x.25mg (as well as other benzos in far smaller amounts but still amounts signifying a high tolerance - no blackouts occurred and very very little if any signs of intoxication) It's only my second time trying this flam which was a week maybe longer before) and in between had been taking other benzos. I did notice diminished effects greatly after using the flam for the first time and honestly wasn't even that keen on it. I only bought it again because I've had hell trying to convince certain people that I have a benzo problem and its not something i can just quit cold turkey without help, even if I was only emotionally dependent on it, (I was very nearly to being made homeless and am still lucky to not be but fortunately I know exactly what to do if I am in that situation and how to get myself out of this mess, I'd just rather do it at home as I feel safe even though my parents have absolutely no interest in letting me explain anything to them and it's unpleasant to be there) and my mum finally listened to the experts who said I should absolutely not just stop cold turkey especially given my history with serious withdrawals. But yeah she agreed to allow me to stay on them as long as she controls them and I went for flam as it was cheap and I was aware of the tolerance issue but wasn't aware of how quickly it causes it to rise, and I was hoping it would tide me over until i see a specialist Wednesday and get onto a valium taper, which unfortunately won't happen Wednesday as they are just a signposting service who assess you and send you to the best place for help but hopefully due to the severity of the tolerance I'll get referred ASAP

Parents and I have agreed that i take x amount daily which my parents control but the amount I have will only last me till Sunday by which point it seems I may as well be taking sugar pills, but unfortunately we've ordered 100 more to last me till Wednesday (this was before I realised just how nasty these things are). Thankfully I have a hidden stash of other benzos (17x.5mg clonazolam, 40x2mg diclazepam, 2x2mg nifoxipam and 25x8 Flubromazepam (If it helps i took 14x..25mg flam spaced out over about 4 hours. Took the foxi's at about 6pm and the diclazepam and clonazepam spaced out at around 2-4pm which eventually got me off.

After reading and personally experiencing the tolerance issues I've refused to take my second flam dose and only took the dose this morning as my parents are unaware of my other stash (Like I said they're refusing and unwilling to listen to me on how any of these drugs work unfortunately, my dad is generally calmer and more relaxed so I will bring it up with him if I get a chance too whereas at the mention of drugs my mum just rages out which is just not helpful!) Would your advice to be to simply use these and eek them out as much as possible (going away today till Monday) using the flam as an emergency if needed and hope I can convince my dad to flush the flam down the toilet and order some Fpam for Monday and if so what dose? If you don't feel qualified to answer that or that you can't give good advice then that's totally fine, I'd rather (and sure you would rather) give no advice instead of bad advice!
All advice and experience is helpful to me so no need for apologies, in fact thank you for taking the time to read and answer my thread!
Also my request regarding vendor quality provided it is permitted within the rules stretches to anyone who's replied or read and is willing to answer my question so please let me know if this is a possibility - it would give me some re-assurance.

Thank all of you guys for helping me out, I've only relapsed once it's frightening how it quickly spirals out of control but at least I learn something everytime. Like I always say Addiction and sobriety is dam HARD. People expect you to nail it first time but most people can't nail a pc game (or even come close) first time, let alone shit like this! That being said I've found addicts to often be the most open minded and willing to learn and improve people out there whereas people who have an addiction to say food or gaming you mention any similarities and you're suddenly evil :/ I guess that's an opinion but I'm sure most would agree there are parallels in the fact that people are having significant problems controlling self damaging behaviours, most of which will eventually affect others. Again thank you for your help so much and for putting up with my rambling, it's been a rough couple of weeks with a lot going on that I'm finally addressing.