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Opioids Fentanyl Megathread and FAQ

If it's a gel type patch that you have it can't be cut into pieces.
Thats sooo not true. Anytime I get a patch I cut in 2 pieces because a full patch is usually to much and I end up taking it off 7 hours later. Just cut it and tape it and make sure theres no leaking and no air gets in the patch. Its worked everytime for me and ive done it quite a bit.

I also stick a hotpad on until I see my pupils getting very constricted then I wait till I feel a buzz coming on and stop.
 
^cutting the patch in pieces is going to potentially speed up the absorption rate of the fentanyl (it leaking out much quicker), which is itself a risk even with transdermal fentanyl. if you're smoking your gel then sure, cut it and store what you're not using properly. you could do the same using tiny blobs for buccal use. try and find suitable smaller dosage patches to wear.
 
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I'm getting some Actiq lollipops some time later this week and I find them not very effective for pain and they are so short acting that any relief they do provide only lasts like 2 hours..

Is there any way to get more out of these? I rub them on the inside of my cheek, under my tongue, and the inside of my bottom lip. I am very careful not to swallow much of the spit but of course a small amount gets away. A friend of mine who used to have them said he used the cut the lollipop part off and sit it under his tongue. Is this better?

Thanks.
 
Good Morning,
I can aquire following patches:
Durogesic®, Depopatch 50 mikrog/HOUR
They are the ones with no gél inside them.
IS there ANY way to extract some fentanyl out for injection?

And does it give more fenanyl at the same timr if i cut the patch in pieces and place on my body?

And lastly, wouls it yield a more rapid and strong effect if i took a piece of thr patch and used it sublingual. (maybe with some strong liqour to absorb it?

Thanks!

EDIT: Think i found the answers to my questions, thanks.
 
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There are many ways to best take fentanyl listed in the posts on this page. I believe avoiding to swallow the fentanyl is best for Hobo with the lollipops. They have a page on wikipedia I havent read, the page is below, I would read it. As for the patch with no gel, I used the ones with gel so I dont know about cutting them, but they will have a stronger and faster onset if put in the mouth and absorbed by the gums, inside of the cheeks, and under the tongue. They are dangerous when used that way because of fentanyls strength so you must be careful especially if not experienced.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actiq
 
Fentanyl Patches

I've read with great interest many of the posts here. I have a somewhat different question to ask. I've come across some 12.5 mcg Fentanyl patches and am not looking for a "buzz." I just want pain relief.

The warning labels scare the heck out of me as they make it seem like that unless you are VERY opiate tolerant then one of these patches will kill you dead. (slight exaggeration).

I have been on 5mg of oxycodone a couple of times a day, but that's it.

Coming here I've seen talk of eating 100mcg gel patches and other (seemingly) insane acts.

That leads me to believe that simply using a 12.5 patch would be relatively safe.

I'm about 220, in generally good health other than this current back pain. Any thoughts, advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

MR
 
i take it this did not come from a doctor...

i would first talk to your (assumed) pain mgmt specialist (or the person who prescribes the oxy)

Otherwise, if you decide to put this on your body, it will be similar to max 1.25mg/hr morphine


talk to a specialist
 
So about 10-15mg of oxycodone a day, and your going to try and take on fentanyl?

However 15mg of oxycodone is roughly equal to about 0.02-0.06mg of fentanyl.

12.5mcg = 0.0125mg

So you will not overdose, might even be a chance there will be no pain relief.

Unless I read the dosage incorrectly.
 
there will definitely be pain relief. it's recommended for people not to start taking fentanyl (the proper way like the OP) unless they've been on the equivalent of 40mg oxy a day for 2 weeks.

i would cut the patch into quarters if you've only ever taken 5mg oxy in the past. it will be more than sufficient for pain. if after 24 hours the first quarter isn't enough relief then add another quarter. remember they're only 72 hour patches as well.

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So is there any way to use the fentanyl lollipops more effectively? i already use them without swallowing any saliva and it takes like 30-45 minutes for me to finish one. in the packaging that comes with them it tells you to suck on it and swallow the shit but it cuts the bioavailability down to 33%.

I've seen references to shooting them on here, but no explaination on if there are any extra steps. or is it as straightforward as i am thinking it is? Each unit contains 2g of sugar, is that a problem?

if anyone could walk me through this i would be greatful. I know i could probably figure it out, but i don't want to take any chances when injecting lollipops into my veins...

Also, if the pops aren't safe to inject, does anyone have any info on the rectal bioavailability of fentanyl?

EDIT: Fuck rectal administration, i just read that intranasal BA of fentanyl saline solution is 89%. I guess i need to find a flonase bottle or something...
 
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lolly pops make your teeth fall out... but so does lifestyle...so pick your poison... just drink the gel... never got me that fucked up but i have had a bad d habit for years
 
damn hobo, the drug scene must have improved in cola since i stopped living there


its still not great, almost everyone just does a bunch of coke/crack. its hard to find other people who share my love of opiates, plus the heroin here is expensive and it sucks.

lolly pops make your teeth fall out... but so does lifestyle...so pick your poison... just drink the gel... never got me that fucked up but i have had a bad d habit for years

yeah, i've heard they cause a lot of dental problems. i only use them for like 5-7 days a month while i wait on my script and i haven't noticed any tooth decay yet. Drink what gel? i don't have patches, just lollipops. if i had gel i would be smoking it right now and not worrying about injecting lollipops...
 
Fentanyl WD Help!

Hey gang,

I'm beginning quitting cold turkey from a low dose (50ucg/48hrs) of Fentanyl. Got a couple of questions, if anyone has any experience to share, I would be humbly greatful.

First, can I expect serious withdrawl from using such a low dose for roughly 2 years time? Second, if i had either hydrocodone or oxycodone to help ease the pain, which would provide better relief (provided I had equal amounts).


Thanks, and have good.

jt
 
You will indeed have w/d. Using any dose of X drug that is addictive for a timeframe of 2 years, will give you w/d. If you use oxy or any other narcotic, it would be pointless. Its basically the same drug. and you are just prolonging the w/d.

No one can tell you how bad it will be, everyone is different, but yes, you will experience w/d.
 
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