ETH-LAD (200ug) - First Attempt (very experienced otherwise) - "The Beginning of the End?"

[tired of crap]

(this wil be a running edit until its finalized)
I was unsure if I should even eat this. We were to go to the neighbours for a bonefire with the kids. I sent R over and I himmed and hawed.

Aww fuck it, why not. But how much? Well Ive been tripping a lot lately (flip with ald/m, 4 ho dipt, dxm - all within the last 1.5 months... even more before that ... shit time for a tolerance break soon, maybe? yup) and its been (>5) years since a decent lyseragime experience.... and with my recent flip using Ald52 (200 ug) and mdma (150+40mg) leaving me rather disappointed, maybe Ill dose a little higher than what Id read as some intitial recommendations. Tihkal seemed really light on dose vs online.

T 0:00 200 ug Eth-Lad
Head over to find them playing basketball. The kids are getting older now and kids vs adults actually took some hussle to beat them lol. Not much for changes yet and were off to find sticks to roast marshmallows. Back now and the fires already going. Kids do the marshemellow thing and head inside

t2;00 smoking bowls not much change outside but coming in I notice it starts. Back outside and the stars come alive, even through the light pollution... Time to get R home to bed. Back home we discover shes forgottoen a stuffy.. Back we go. On routeR is wearing this cute little dinosaur hoody and newshoes and is doing some weird fart noise and dancing but its fucking comical. I cant stop laughing. Im really climbing now. Back at the neighbours, only to discover it was never here. Haha fuckkkk.


We watched Ra play some Zelda for the switch. It looked so amazing. Never played it myself though.
Got R to bed and started talking with Ra.

t3-4 I was peaking pretty good. Didnt pay much attention to the time as we talked but visually there was loads of colour. Far more than Ive experienced on any dose of street LSD within the last 7 years anyways (has been a dry spell lol and the last stuff was disappointing, udnerdosed?). I was definitely hungry, as I ate an early dinner, just inc ase haha .. fruit was delicious. English muffin with pb and j ... mmmmm mmm lol

t5 more talking haha... trying to come up with a plan to register a business... but Im too high I just keep going off on all sorts of crazy tangents haha This has been a long time coming as Im tired of working for someone else. A little hard work and some research and itll all fall into place. Im tired of under utilizing this accounting degree lol

we tried to put the new tool album on. fucking thing wont work in ps4. who has a cd player these days anyways? .... ps3 it is... oh shit, maybe bust out the cd cover visualization thing... ah fuck it who cares lol.. this seems too cliche acid trip. Neat artwork but who gaf lol ...

t6 coming down now, so we start the research. Lots of weed throughout. doesnt really add much. Christ Im so tolerant now. I remember when weed used to actually get me high lol.... I mean high dose edibles but I digress... Damn this is more intensive than I thought. Maybe its just easier to pay someone to register everything? Onward forward.. Ra goes to bed

t7 more researching. put on chapels new special. funny shit haha def nearing baseline.
t8 writing this report. drug researching now lol..
t9 pretty well down now, visually anyway - in the light anyway haha see what happens when I try and go to bed lol...

Overall a wonderful experience. I feel so much better, almost cleansed. Bonding with R at the fire and on our walk/cuddling on the couchwatching Zelda was amazing. When tucking her in she asked why I kept laughing. I just told her I was stoned (she knows, were honest about our drug use- ish lol).

Starting this business plan has been looming forever and it feels good to get some proper musings in and written down.
Some more research to come but this is close. Hoping to get this off the ground by the end of Sept.

In the meantime Im hoping to implement some positive lifestyle changes.
More exercise and stretching. More outside time.
More time for me

Sleep now tho. Will update with how I am tomorrow. Super late now tho, will likely be tired af haha oops. yay long weekend

Update. Only some 4 hrs of sleep but once I got up into the wee hrs I just kinda kept going lol
Im tired today but feel a lot better than S, neighbour, who is hungover and sick from fire drinks ... So glad I quit drinking. Substances are much more useful, imho. But now its time to adult, so well see lol

Breakfast and chores/responsibilities.
Took more time than usual as Im all over the place. But it almost feels like a productive all over the place..As I see all the things I need to do and actually fuck do them lol

Im communicating more openly and freely, with emotion too.. Seems Ive been really lacking these since quitting drinking. 10 yrs of that shit and I have forgotten wtf its like to be aware of and accepting to these and they change moment to moment.

I feel great today.
Like a computer defraged. I knew the pieces fit... fucking tool lol

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[Xorkoth]

Hey there, thanks for sharing, sounds like a really nice experience. ETH-LAD is a really interesting substance, I find it less euphoric and all-encompassing than LSD is, but the visuals are really something, and the state of mind is rather serene and somewhat mescaline-like in character. I haven't taken it in a full dose since the first time I took it, for some reason. This report reminds me I should do that soon.

It also reminds me that I really need to defrag my hard drive (my actual computer).

 

[tired of crap]

Honestly it has been years since Ive come across actual LSD so I cant really compare as its likely been >10 yrs sicne I had really nice acid. The last blotter I bought, before a test kit, was either degraded or underdosed... something was weird as it didnt produce much visuals, even at 9 hits... and the last liquid I grab was definitely another lysergamide as I came down around 5 hrs and was baseline by 8 .. yay new test kit lol

I found the visuals intense and although it wasnt as all encompassing as I remember LSD to be I was quite immersed in the experience and was rather euphoric and giggly to the point of it drawing questions from my daughter at bed time. I will def repeat but its time for a serious tolerance break. Plan is to wait until our house warming party around halloween (costume party + psyches ftw lol)

Also, I had no idea you could still do a defrag on new computers lol

 

[protovack]

sorry, but i wasn't able to really tell if you even felt any effects from the ETH LAD. Seems like either an undershoot or a missed opportunity to me?
I'm not sure if I would trip so casually around my kids either. Do you find it to work well?

 

[tired of crap]

sorry, but i wasn't able to really tell if you even felt any effects from the ETH LAD. Seems like either an undershoot or a missed opportunity to me?
I'm not sure if I would trip so casually around my kids either. Do you find it to work well?

Umm, I definitely had many effects, both visually and mentally.
"visually there was loads of colour. Far more than Ive experienced on any dose of street LSD within the last 7 years anyways "
"Im too high I just keep going off on all sorts of crazy tangents haha "

I suppose I could have been clearer/added more effects from the eth-lad but to me they were only secondary to the experience ... kinda in contrast to the purpose of a trip report I guess? Ill update with more details this week.

I have no concerns taking moderate doses around my daughter, so long as there is a sober sitter, just in case. She is 11 now but Ive been doing this for some time. Honestly I feel much more comfortable exposing her to this kind of behaviour than responsible drinking, but I suppose Im biased.

 

[Ponder]

I’m a 53 year-old dude who’s new to psychedelics and have used the following during the past several months: 1p, 1cp, Eth Lad, 4-Aco-DMT and Salvia.

I recently purchased 10 tabs of the Eth Lad and started with a 200 ug dose as I have a naturally high tolerance for drugs, plus my recent research has been marked by experiences 2X weekly (mostly with the 4-Aco-DMT, including a very poor decision to try a 150 mg dose, as well as several successful 300 ug trips with the 1p and 1cp).

I tripped alone in the privacy of my apartment, which I prefer to collective experiences, and started my journey on a fairly empty stomach around 2:45pm. A quick trip report follows:

3:15pm: Quick come up with a distinctively heavy body load marked by nausea, strong and uncomfortable whole body trembling, and some anxiety about what lay ahead.

4:45pm: Nausea has dissipated but the trembling continues. No body high, but strong OEVs, particularly multi-colored, albeit faint patterns of light on the walls. My read at this point is that I’m still coming up and hoping to settle in quickly as I wasn’t enjoying myself at all.

5:45pm: I’ve been pretty much laying in bed for the past hour due to my discomfort, so I decide to get up and look outside and realize it’s snowing and suddenly the trip turns further sour as I start to worry about my my girlfriend and the travel conditions. I recognize I’m having a bad trip but elect to keep going in hopes the molecule will reveal something positive soon.

6:45pm: I’ve spent the past hour trying to right my head and my thoughts are highly variable, but fairly negative. I notice I have zero music enhancement, which is a huge bummer and give in to my fears about my girl by texting her and asking for a phone call. My hope was that once I confirmed she was safe I could break though, but it never happened.

7:45pm: By this time I’ve confirmed my girl is okay, but we get into a conversation about our relationship and that pretty much marks the end of any hope I had to break through. I then switch to weed and beer to calm myself a bit and the body load slowly dissipates over the next four hours.

11:30: I’m nine hours in and still feeling the last remnants of the negative body load, but I know the trip is ending and start to feel a bit better.

At the end of the day, I think the issue was more so related to set and setting and less so the Eth Lad. My girlfriend and I have been having relationship problems the past couple of weeks and that was definitively on my mind. I also felt isolated by the snow storm and realized I wasn’t optimally prepared, e.g. I recently moved and didn’t have a snow shovel. Also, I had used 15mg of Adderall in the morning and feel that negatively effected the experience. Finally, despite my tolerance I’m willing to bet it would have gone better if I started at 150 ugs, which many folks report to be an optimal dosage. 8'm gladI didn't go for my usual 300 ug dose!

The last thing I'll say is that I recognize using these products twice weekly is too much. I definitely see the magic fading away, so I'm going to try and take a two week break to reset my tolerance and dose at lower amounts. For example, my current 4-Aco-DMT dose is in the 60-90 mg range, which I know is too high.

I'll try the Eth Lad again after taking a break and will report back.

 

[AutoTripper]

I’m a 53 year-old dude who’s new to psychedelics and have used the following during the past several months: 1p, 1cp, Eth Lad, 4-Aco-DMT and Salvia.

I recently purchased 10 tabs of the Eth Lad and started with a 200 ug dose as I have a naturally high tolerance for drugs, plus my recent research has been marked by experiences 2X weekly (mostly with the 4-Aco-DMT, including a very poor decision to try a 150 mg dose, as well as several successful 300 ug trips with the 1p and 1cp).

I tripped alone in the privacy of my apartment, which I prefer to collective experiences, and started my journey on a fairly empty stomach around 2:45pm. A quick trip report follows:

3:15pm: Quick come up with a distinctively heavy body load marked by nausea, strong and uncomfortable whole body trembling, and some anxiety about what lay ahead.

4:45pm: Nausea has dissipated but the trembling continues. No body high, but strong OEVs, particularly multi-colored, albeit faint patterns of light on the walls. My read at this point is that I’m still coming up and hoping to settle in quickly as I wasn’t enjoying myself at all.

5:45pm: I’ve been pretty much laying in bed for the past hour due to my discomfort, so I decide to get up and look outside and realize it’s snowing and suddenly the trip turns further sour as I start to worry about my my girlfriend and the travel conditions. I recognize I’m having a bad trip but elect to keep going in hopes the molecule will reveal something positive soon.

6:45pm: I’ve spent the past hour trying to right my head and my thoughts are highly variable, but fairly negative. I notice I have zero music enhancement, which is a huge bummer and give in to my fears about my girl by texting her and asking for a phone call. My hope was that once I confirmed she was safe I could break though, but it never happened.

7:45pm: By this time I’ve confirmed my girl is okay, but we get into a conversation about our relationship and that pretty much marks the end of any hope I had to break through. I then switch to weed and beer to calm myself a bit and the body load slowly dissipates over the next four hours.

11:30: I’m nine hours in and still feeling the last remnants of the negative body load, but I know the trip is ending and start to feel a bit better.

At the end of the day, I think the issue was more so related to set and setting and less so the Eth Lad. My girlfriend and I have been having relationship problems the past couple of weeks and that was definitively on my mind. I also felt isolated by the snow storm and realized I wasn’t optimally prepared, e.g. I recently moved and didn’t have a snow shovel. Also, I had used 15mg of Adderall in the morning and feel that negatively effected the experience. Finally, despite my tolerance I’m willing to bet it would have gone better if I started at 150 ugs, which many folks report to be an optimal dosage. 8'm gladI didn't go for my usual 300 ug dose!

The last thing I'll say is that I recognize using these products twice weekly is too much. I definitely see the magic fading away, so I'm going to try and take a two week break to reset my tolerance and dose at lower amounts. For example, my current 4-Aco-DMT dose is in the 60-90 mg range, which I know is too high.

I'll try the Eth Lad again after taking a break and will report back.

Thanks very much for sharing and a very warm welcome to the forum sorry this one was difficult but that's just the name of the game I guess and sometimes this can happen.

Anyway wishing you the best at improving and picking up your mindset again and having a more positive and beneficial experience next time which other compound it is.

 

[Ponder]

Hey, thanks for your response. Yep, I know some trips go south and that's part of the risk, but the reward is totally worth it - I'm gonna keep researching!

 

[Deleted member 521610]

eth-lad is super power on 330 ug i was stomped through infinite flattened out and lived billions of years as consciouness through all life and became one with god. Very nice trip report

 

[tired of crap]

@TripSitterNZ I had delusions of grandeur on my most recent 1cP (300 ug with a difficult to judge amount of dxm) trip. I thought that I was God (In a way we almost are our own "God" but thats not how I meant lol) and the strengthening snow storm only proved it - until I started to come down lol.

Anyways, over the next month of integration part of that includes writing a trip report for that powerful experience, as well as my previous experience with 300 ug of 1P.. I honestly find journalling these strong experiences cathartic in its own way.

@Ponder my most recent 1cp trip was during a snow storm and I also became worried about a friend who was travelling home with his kids. It hada sever impact on my trip as well. I find it so interesting that metabolism plays such a huge role in how we experience these substances. I had almost no negative bodyload on eth-lad but 1p brought difficultly regulating body temp, sweating (regardless of temp) and pacing, whereas; my initial 200 1cp trip brought out the tightness I was experiencing at that time.

I agree that a tolerance break is key. A month was difficult for me because I was tripping near weekly for some time and though the returns were diminishing I found the relief they provided my anxiety/depression immense. Taking time off is necessary but Ive got to integrate other beneficial activities- exercise, mindfulness, journaling, etc - which help almost as much as psychedelics/disassociatives.