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Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

JGrimez

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Without context? Why is everyone ignoring his proven Mossad connections? When facts are considered conspiracy theories... That was an excellent video and that girl does excellent research, especially with regards to events in the Levant.

TMZ: Authorities believe Jeffrey Epstein jumped off the top bunk to hang himself
 

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All in all, if I were forced to take a side, I'd probably side with it being suicide
LOL this is why I don't take anything you say seriously (and all you ever say to me is insults and ad homs, you never actually address the content of my posts because you can't).
Based on all the evidence, are you actually leaning towards this being a suicide? I think it's more of a case of you being so adamantly against any type of "conspiracy theory" (alternative theory countering the official story) that you refuse to venture into that territory at all, even when all the pieces of evidence undeniably point to a certain direction.

Honestly Grimez, at this point I just ignore nearly all your posts.
I don't care. Unnecessary comment.

I want you to know though, it's not because I dislike you, I don't. I honestly have no problem with you on a personal level. I just think your way of viewing the world is so at odds with mine that we're effectively not in the same reality anymore.
You can say that again!

Which makes interesting discussion impossible.
Epstein's Mossad links aren't interesting?? We definitely do live in different realities. I guess in your reality, Mossad is a benevolent troop of Samaritans that tour the world spreading lollipops and fancypants.
Are you aware that Epstein's close friend and procurer of women Ghislain Maxwell, was Robert Maxwell's daughter? Do you know anything about him? Mossad ties? Equally suspicious death? (sorry, it was suspicious but nowhere near as suspicious as Epstein's)

There's no way to have constructive discussion when both sides can't even agree on what constitutes evidence, or what constitutes rational thought.
Even if you take all the OFFICIAL evidence from the Epstein case, and then still consider the most likely outcome suicide, then I don't know how that lines up with rational thought. At the very least you must admit that it looks like the prison authorities did everything in their power to allow him the time and space needed to kill himself. Which I'm sure you'd agree, is closer to a murder than a suicide.

EDIT: Actually, I should clarify, I don't ignore them as in not reading them, I do read them (I don't watch YouTube clips though), by ignore I mean I see no point in replying to them most of the time.
If anyone cares to discuss Epstein's connections, I'm down.
That's acceptable in this thread, right? Discussing his personal and business connections?
 

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Mossad couldn't give a damm about epstein :LOL::LOL:. They are only in the business of assassinating iranian nuclear engineers. He hung himself as simple as that the guards would of hated him and wanted him to end it so they didn't check on him.
 

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Mossad couldn't give a damm about epstein :LOL::LOL:. They are only in the business of assassinating iranian nuclear engineers. He hung himself as simple as that the guards would of hated him and wanted him to end it so they didn't check on him.
Yeah right, where do you think Epstein's billion $ came from? How come literally nobody has any idea? How does a college drop-out get hired as a college professor? Why is he flying the most powerful in the world to his private island? Why is he best friends with Mossad agent Robert Maxwell's daughter? Why did Les Wexner GIVE Epstein a $40 million townhouse? Nice to see you've done your research before coming to your conclusions.

Unbelievable the lengths people are willing to go to ignore evidence and refuse to do any research.. and then make definitive claims
 

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Yeah right, where do you think Epstein's billion $ came from? How come literally nobody has any idea? How does a college drop-out get hired as a college professor? Why is he flying the most powerful in the world to his private island? Why is he best friends with Mossad agent Robert Maxwell's daughter? Why did Les Wexner GIVE Epstein a $40 million townhouse? Nice to see you've done your research before coming to your conclusions.

Unbelievable the lengths people are willing to go to ignore evidence and refuse to do any research.. and then make definitive claims
Epstein was never a billionaire. he never worked as a college professor. He made money and became rich and guess what rich people do they hang out together to make more money. Les wexner giving away a house he would of acutally made more money in the tax deducations doing that its all a business game.
 
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Epstein was never a billionaire. he never worked as a college professor. He made money and became rich and guess what rich people do they hang out together to make more money. Les wexner giving away a house he would of acutally made more money in the tax deducations doing that its all a business game. Lay off the pot and watching youtube all day.
Wiki said:
Epstein started working in September 1974 as a physics and mathematics teacher at the Dalton School on the Upper East Side of Manhattan
A college drop-out? Right.
He net worth was half a billion dollars and he had many assets.
NOBODY KNOWS HOW HE MADE HIS MONEY. He never explained it. That's beyond a little ridiculous. Unless you can show me evidence of where his money came from or how he made it?

Acosta was told to give him a sweetheart deal because Epstein was an intelligence asset!! Acosta said this!! How much more evidence do we need??

Now, Labor Secretary, Alex Acosta is saying he was told that Epstein was an asset for the US intelligence community and was advised to keep clear of him. According to the Daily Beast, Acosta said, “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone.”

This aligns with long speculation that Epstein is what is commonly referred to as an “Intelligence Cutout.” A CIA or intel cutout is a person or organization set up by the intelligence community to serve as a front for some kind of operation. Similar to a drug dealer posing as a restaurateur, a cutout poses as one thing while using secret assets to fund the front operation.
 
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Steve jobs and bill gates also dropped out of college. If your smarter than college it holds them back so they leave and go onto to create wealthy businesses. Most highschool teachers back in time didn't need degrees to teach as long you show you could do it.
 

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Steve jobs and bill gates also dropped out of college. If your smarter than college it holds them back so they leave and go onto to create wealthy businesses. Most highschool teachers back in time didn't need degrees to teach as long you show you could do it.
Cool story, bro.
How did Epstein make his money? Evidence please.
 

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As I said Grimez, I don't consider suspecting that epstein was murdered to be an irrational suspicion. I'd rather not take a side either way at this point since as far as I'm concerned there's far too little evidence to base a solid opinion on yet.

All I'm saying is that, if I HAD to pick a side for some reason, I'd reluctantly side with the suicide theory. If only because it's a simpler explanation.

I'm sorry that you feel I've insulted you, as I said I honestly have no personal problem with you. I just think our beliefs are so at odds with each other that almost any kind of productive discussion is impossible.

I can certainly understand why you might take some of my comments about conspiracy theorists and the things you believe in to be insulting towards you, but I honestly have no desire or intent to insult you. It's likely that my honest beliefs about your honest beliefs aren't something that can really be stated without it potentially sounding insulting.

For whatever it's worth though, I honestly have no ill will towards you.
 
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So this is the man who supposedly hung himself and DEAD in his cell? Why they still got that breather on him?

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Weird choice of book for her to have huh...



Maxwell, 57, the alleged madam to the multimillionaire pedophile, was scarfing down a burger, fries and shake al fresco at an In-N-Out Burger on Monday while reading “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” a nonfiction best seller by journalist Ted Gup.

A source close to Maxwell recently told Vanity Fair that she spoke openly about procuring girls for Epstein.


“Ghislaine was in love with Jeffrey the way she was in love with her father. She always thought if she just did one more thing for him, to please him, he would marry her,” the source said. “When I asked what she thought of the underage girls, she looked at me and said, ‘they’re nothing, these girls. They are trash.’”

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Man all that work with poor kids in 3rd world countries would be a great place to snatch up kids for sex trafficking...


Attorneys for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein touted his close friendship with Bill Clinton and even claimed the billionaire helped start Clinton's controversial family foundation in a 2007 letter aimed at boosting his image during plea negotiations, FoxNews.com has learned.

The 23-page letter, written by high-powered lawyers Alan Dershowitz and Gerald Lefcourt, was apparently part of an ultimately successful bid to negotiate a plea deal before Epstein could be tried for using underage girls in a sex ring based in Palm Beach, Fla., and his private island estate on the 72-acre Virgin Islands home dubbed “Orgy Island.” Epstein spent 13 months in prison and home detention after agreeing to a plea deal in which he admitted to soliciting an underage girl for prostitution.

"Mr. Epstein was part of the original group that conceived the Clinton Global Initiative, which is described as a project 'bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges,” read the July 2007 letter to the U.S. Attorney’s office in the Southern District of Florida. “Focuses of this initiative include poverty, climate change, global health, and religious and ethnic conflicts.”
 

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For whatever it's worth though, I honestly have no ill will towards you.
Likewise.

I would describe it as more of a condescending tone. I'd rather you dispute my evidence than rant about me personally - which you've done numerous times. Yes I know you've spent lots of time around "conspiracy theorists", which isn't really relevant. Those people you speak of - maybe if I spoke them I'd consider them crackpots who latch onto every conspiracy plastered on youtube (I've met a few of these types). There's levels to this shit, conspiracy does exist (conspiracy is a crime), many conspiracy theories have turned out to be true - and this fact right here should more permit the discussion of said events here. Do you think "conspiracy theorists" should be labeled domestic terrorists? Why/why not?

Rasmussen poll: Only 29% of Americans think Epstein committed suicide. 42% believe he was murdered.

Extrapolated out, does that mean that about 139 million Americans are "conspiracy theorists" ?
 

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Watch at 1:33


For anyone who's leaning towards suicide, how exactly would you explain that he kill himself?
 

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They said Epstein is intelligence. Why can't they investigate in that direction?This is the "deep state" exposed pulling some strings. I'd be very surprised if Epstein sings. He'll probably either get life or have an accident.
 

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Who cares really? Perhaps that body actually belonged to Anthony Bourdain, and Epstein is in Honduras DP'ing 15 year olds (more power to him).

The only thing that really points to a conspiracy here (at least in my mind) is that Epstein was being investigated by Attorney General Barr, which is rather curious considering that human herpes virus 4 is known as "Epstein-Barr"...
 
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Do you actually support pedophilia?
Whoops i see how that could have come across. I meant more power to him for using Anthony Bourdain's body in his elaborate escape, not more power to him for DP'ing 15 year olds (I admit the way I articulated it was unclear).
 
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