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Epstein Dies in Custody - Alleged Suicide, Some Speculate it was a Hit Job

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From the 1990s to mid-2000s, Epstein often socialized with the future President Donald Trump. Journalist Michael Wolff wrote that Trump, Epstein, and Tom Barrack were at the time like a “set of nightlife musketeers” on the social scene. Epstein and Trump socialized both in New York City and Palm Beach, where they both had houses. A porter who worked next door to Epstein's house on the Upper East Side of Manhattan in 2000 stated to The Mail on Sunday in reference to people coming and going from Epstein's house that "I often see Donald Trump and there are loads of models coming and going, mostly at night. It's amazing he's got so many ladies, as Mr Epstein, and always has a new one on his arm, it seems."

 

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Nice spin, he was barely associated with Epstein, Flew on his plane once from FL to NY. Epstein was a member of Mar-a-Lago but was banned for life after he was caught harassing a young girl there. Trump even publicly jabbed at him saying that Epstein liked his women on the younger side. It was an obvious dig. Pedos don't rat out their mates in public.

Now Bill Clinton flew with Epstein to his infamous "Pedo Island" at least 26 times, often ditching secret service detail. There are flights logs with them and underage girls.
Epstein claims to be a co-founder of the Clinton Foundation.
 

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Now Bill Clinton flew with Epstein to his infamous "Pedo Island" at least 26 times, often ditching secret service detail. There are flights logs with them and underage girls.
Epstein claims to be a co-founder of the Clinton Foundation.
Was he linked to Pizza-gate too?
 

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Yes Bill was linked. Trump made comments about knowing the man’s proclivities for young women - no slant needed!

Trump’s words speak for themselves.
 

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It is odd, but not surprising that CNN would try to connect Trump to Epstein via a 2002 quote, and ignore Epstein's much more frequent connection with Bill Clinton, or Democratic funding such as the Clinton Foundation.

In doing a little research, I see where there was a man named Acosta who was hired into Trump's administration, and during the transition the team asked if Acosta's interaction with Epstein would be an issue. The point being, Acosta was the prosecutor who gave Epstein and any co-conspirators an immunity deal from any federal prosecution on this issue, allowing it to remain a State of Florida case. Acosta's comment is that he was told to back off, that Epstein was an 'Intelligence Asset', whatever that means. I could see this getting a few headlines to the effect of Trump's hiring of Acosta being a 'helping a friend who helped Epstein' when in fact Trump and Acosta knew nothing of each other at the time, and Trump had nothing to do with the plea deal.
 

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Trump no doubt has a dirty dirty past considering the people he used to associate with. A heap of well known sleazy pedos. I heard from a credible source that the true powerful ones in the world (elite/trillionairs ect) have multiple sex tapes of him that were filmed secretly for the purpose of blackmail.

Its easy to control the president from the shadows on certain things when you have that leavage. This tactics been used on many world leaders over the decades. Prior to them becoming politions sometimes years and years when your attending rich sex partys with other old dirty men- cameras set up to film everyone to put away for the elites should they need it in the future.
 

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Trump no doubt has a dirty dirty past
Assumption.

considering the people he used to associate with. A heap of well known sleazy pedos.
Slander. Proof?

I heard from a credible source
Unnamed. Credible?

that the true powerful ones in the world (elite/trillionairs ect) have multiple sex tapes of him that were filmed secretly for the purpose of blackmail.
Can you imagine ANYONE ever having to watch such tapes of Trump? It would have to be worse than waterboarding.


Its easy to control the president from the shadows on certain things when you have that leavage. This tactics been used on many world leaders over the decades. Prior to them becoming politions sometimes years and years when your attending rich sex partys with other old dirty men- cameras set up to film everyone to put away for the elites should they need it in the future.
And this is why I never allow videos at meetups I attend. (y)
 

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Assumption.



Slander. Proof?



Unnamed. Credible?



Can you imagine ANYONE ever having to watch such tapes of Trump? It would have to be worse than waterboarding.




And this is why I never allow videos at meetups I attend. (y)
I will fill out answers to your reasonable questions tomorrow. I can actually add a lot to it but im to high at the moment. I will provide sources,documents and such for all I mentioned above. No slander, I'm a fact gatherer 😁 One of the sources which you asked credible? is definitely. A family member who works in Intelligence/Nation Security and such. I dont wont to go into specifics but his current (and previous jobs) all required posvet (topsecret) security clearances with additional special access program clearences.

I've come to be very critical of the political system from things he has told me (some very shocking) not to mention the huge ammount that he simply wont discuss even in confidence.
"N**k G***ar* is a researcher and analyst at Project Alpha, a ***** ******* initiative that works to understand and counter illicit, proliferation-related trade. From 2008 until 2014, he worked for the Australian Government's Department of Defense on counter-proliferation, export control, illicit trade, and other national security issues. His work has appeared in International Affairs, the Financial Times, The Diplomat, Der Standard, and The Conversation"
I shall hit this thread up tomorrow!
 

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There's rumors some of the Trump/Epstein victims were very young and terrified to come forward. This isn't stuff I can make up people. My mind doesn't work like that. I predict a white nationalist is going to kill DJT. Or that we were going to go to war with Iran or DPRK and we didn't which is why I am SO ANGRY AT THE FLOP PRES. OF THE CENTURY. But holy shit.

The rumor came up around the time of Trump's 14 billion other accusers (TWO ACCUSATIONS FOR EVERY PERSON ON EARTH) and what was it 14 NAMED accusers should have been enough. It really should have been.
 

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More on someone Trump considers a "Great guy!"

Epstein kept an assortment of peculiar items in his Manhattan mansion, from a life-like human doll dangling from a chandelier to a human-sized chessboard with scantily clad figurines modeled after his employees, according to New York Magazine. Other oddities include individually framed prosthetic eyeballs mounted along a hallway.

He kept prosthetic breasts by a bathtub that he could play with while bathing, Jennifer Araoz, a woman who claims she was abused and raped by Epstein when she was just 15 years old, told NBC News in a recent interview. She said there were also photos of naked women hanging in a massage room.

In addition to a heated sidewalk that would melt snow during winter, Epstein’s seven-story Manhattan residence held a mural he had commissioned of a prison yard – with the wealthy financier standing in the center, The New York Times reported.

The painting is described as photorealistic, complete with barbed wire, corrections officers and a guard station.

R. Couri Hay told the Times that Epstein had invited him over to view the mural. He said Epstein had the prison scene painted to serve as a reminder of “the possibility that could be me again.”

Epstein bought Little St. James Island in the U.S. Virgin Islands more than two decades ago. He cleared the native vegetation and planted two towering American flags on either end. Security guards kept watch along the shores.

He built a stone mansion with cream-colored walls and a bright turquoise roof surrounded by several other structures including the maids' quarters and a massive, square-shaped white building on one end of the island.

Federal authorities consider the smaller of the two islands to be Epstein's primary residence in the United States. While it is unknown what exactly occurred on the island, rumors have swirled that he ran his alleged sex trafficking ring there. The allegations have led to sinister nicknames including "Island of Sin" and "Orgy Island," The Cut reports.

"Everybody called it 'Pedophile Island,'" Kevin Goodrich, who is from St. Thomas and operates boat charters, told The Associated Press. "It's our dark corner."

One of Epstein's alleged victims said in a court affidavit obtained by the AP that she saw former President Bill Clinton on the island but never witnessed him having sex with anyone.

A Clinton spokesman issued a statement denying the claims, saying Clinton never traveled to the island. The statement said the former president took a total of four trips — in 2002 and 2003 — on Epstein’s airplane, each time accompanied by Secret Service detail.

"Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip. He had one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002, and around the same time made one brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail," the spokesman said.

In the statement, Clinton's spokesman said the former president hasn't communicated with Epstein in over a decade.

“He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and he has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein’s ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida,” the statement continued.

But a story published in March 1995 by the Palm Beach Post says then-president Clinton attended a “three-hour dinner” at the time with a “very select group of people” at the Palm Beach home of business magnate Ron Perelman – a diverse group that included Epstein.

It remains unclear how well the two knew each other early on during Clinton's presidency. A spokesman for Clinton did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on a story about the timeline of their interactions earlier this week.
 

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You're not classifiable in the left-Dem vs right-Rep usual buckets. I love that you are a wildcard of sorts. With that, I've never seen you be an all out Trump hater, but can you keep some clarity and context in what you speak to?

There's rumors some of the Trump/Epstein victims were very young and terrified to come forward.
Trump flew with him once, and later didn't like him. Show me anywhere there are Trump victims in this. This is all Epstein through and through. I've yet to hear anything beyond:

More on someone Trump considers a "Great guy!"
A quote from 2002. 17yrs ago. What's Trump's position on him been since then?

Also, for all your throwing of Trump next to Epstein, the article you linked AND quoted goes at length about Clinton. Referring to h ow Clinton's team still insists there were only 4 flights with a boatload of Secret Security and foundation people, in comparison to the flight manifests that list many more Clinton flights with Epstein. Perhaps you mispoke when you meant to say Clinton/Epstein victims?
 

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There’s nothing about Trump that will disgust the people who like him. Even being pals with a child sex peddler. Where exactly is rock bottom for Trump fans?
Exactly.

Trump is their Jesus. There's no point debating it.
 

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There's no point in debating it.
You would probably have to dig your head 17 miles in the sand to ignore the 17 accusers at this point.

Granted, over one hundred million people will be able to do this on election day, so don't sweat it if you are a Trump supporter; I'm sure he'll already get re-elected.

Sorry the list is 24 women now.

 

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Rich people get accused of shit. And sometimes even if you make shit up and aim for the moon, someone might still settle to avoid hassle. Accused means fuck-all.

I've heard countless accusations levelled at Trump during the last few years, almost all have been bogus.

And you're a weirdo cheering for war hoping scores of innocent die. That's why geopolitics is so dangerous because people with your inclinations are running the show. Trump pulled back on a strike on Iran as 150 innocent would die. Disregarding that it's Trump, that move by a US head of state is unheard of. But too many have bought into the media circus and refuse to view these incidents objectively.
 

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It is odd, but not surprising that CNN would try to connect Trump to Epstein via a 2002 quote, and ignore Epstein's much more frequent connection with Bill Clinton, or Democratic funding such as the Clinton Foundation.

In doing a little research, I see where there was a man named Acosta who was hired into Trump's administration, and during the transition the team asked if Acosta's interaction with Epstein would be an issue. The point being, Acosta was the prosecutor who gave Epstein and any co-conspirators an immunity deal from any federal prosecution on this issue, allowing it to remain a State of Florida case. Acosta's comment is that he was told to back off, that Epstein was an 'Intelligence Asset', whatever that means. I could see this getting a few headlines to the effect of Trump's hiring of Acosta being a 'helping a friend who helped Epstein' when in fact Trump and Acosta knew nothing of each other at the time, and Trump had nothing to do with the plea deal.
That's one of the few things I faulted Trump for, having Acosta as Labor Secretary after he gave Epstein that BS plea deal. But I also wasn't aware of all the details then. If Acosta says he was pressured, then I'd like to know by who?? They said Epstein is intelligence. Why can't they investigate in that direction?This is the "deep state" exposed pulling some strings. I'd be very surprised if Epstein sings. He'll probably either get life or have an accident. His long time girl/friend and procurer of women Ghislane Maxwell's father Robert had interesting connections and a suspicious demise.

The Trump-haters don't realize that this has a far greater potential to hurt Trump's opponents.

I do agree with andyturbo that Epstein was running a sex blackmail op (Honeypot aka Brownstone operation). I just don't think Trump fell for it. I could be wrong because Trump is pretty cozy with an unmentional middle eastern state, and Epstein may well have been an agent for them.
 
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