(Ephenidine / 300mg IV + 300mg oral) - dissociative connoisseur - So long, ketamine!

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First dose 10mg oral. Dropped my daughter off at the Kindergarten. Bought 23G needles and went straight home. 1 part propylene glycol with 2 parts tap water seeems to do the trick.

I inject 150mg into a vein on my forearm. Good rush, but not enough drug for a proper journey as it turns out. Effects somewhere between ketamine and phencyclidine, very promising. Injected another 150mg into that phatass vein in my antecubital fossa - or so I thought. I missed. The entire volume was injected subcutanously. The first 150mg sure did a good and proper job to cover that up. Didn't see or feel a thing lol. :/

This shit was significantly more psychedelic than s-ketamine, but still it felt very comforting. Spatial distortions were very pronounced reminding me of diphenidine and it's 2-methoxylated counterpart.

Later I used another 250mg in a single shot, again missing the entire shot thinking it would go up my veins... lol! So far it seems our connective tissue is cool with ephenidine.

Well, well, I have only used this substance once, but I have a strong feeling that ketamine just might have found it's master. I am sure all the RC Lipinskis are working their asses off as we speak to bring us a related compound that's water soluble.

FUCK YES! THE DAY HAS FINALLY COME!

WHOOOOO this causes some mania it seems. Mind you I am bipolar. I am also going to dance and possibly rule the world. Some serious PCP action going on here. Every song is my favourite song. Whichever lady I end up sleeping with tonight I will probably marry.

So... Seems there is no ketamine successor just yet. This will never ever let me go to sleep. Sheeeeeeeeeit. I feel good. I'm gonna dance. Hygiene. Food. Sex. Sex. Sex. Sex. Dancing. Maybe some sleep. Probably not.

Well anyway, ephinidine is obviously a kickass dissociative. Trust in the connoisseur!

LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA...

O M F G I have not been this manic in a long time. FUCK!
So this was Thursday. Afterwards I got on my bicycle and left, heading for my favourite Greek restaurant for a phatass meat dish and then to a fuckbuddy for some fleshen goodness. When I left the Greek place I could still barely talk and ended up hitting a traffic light on my over to the lady. It was standing still. Since my jacket is water proof, I only noticed the square inch large hole in my elbow when it was bleeding on my friend's couch. She washed my clothes and patched me up. Adorable. Sex was not an option, but we had a long talk. Next morning I still wasn't sober. After we went to her workplace I headed home and dosed again, roughly 24h after the last dose, 300mg IV this time, not missing a single drop this time. I topped that off with another 300mg IV and 2 hours later 300-400mg dosed orally.

Qualitatively, this is somewhere between ketamine, pcp and diphenidine. However it surpasses all of them with ease.



Dear ketamine,

nothing can ever replace what you were to me in these past 10 years. You were always there when I needed you through the good and the bad, you've always been a pillar of strength I could hold onto when the fountain of hope threatened to run dry. You've always reminded me of who I was and what I could become. You showed me the power of my mind, you showed me what oneness means and that the day when we seize to exist is but a portal to what has always been.

But in these past months I had to realize that our love has it's limits. That my mind is even more vast than you could ever hope to understand.
Albert Einstein once said:
"I know only two things that are infinite. The universe and human stupidity. I am not sure about the universe."

Little did he know that our minds are just as infinite as the universe, that it's our brains which keep us trapped in a tiny fraction of the possible, our brains that cut consciousness off from it's connection to the world around us.

Just like DMT dissociatives can unleash the mind and serve as a testament to it's powers. But you oh dear ketamine have shown me all you are able to reveal. Not long ago I've met others who introduced me to a new world of imagination, namely diphenidine and it's 2-methoxylated cousin. They weren't exactly relationship material though and their power still lies far out of my reach. Too complex and alienating were the concepts they were trying to introduce me to. They don't know my limits and never showed any empathy for my mind's inability to reach it's full potential. Instead they dropped me off at the threshold to the unknown and left me falling into nothingness where they were supposed to stand by my side and help me integrate what I saw into my material self.

Ephenidine however showed me this new dimension, enveloped me in it's love and gently escorted me to outer space, to places I have always longed to see yet my eyes shut me out of.

Yours sincerely,
crOOk



This is how I feel about ephenidine. To try and explain what I saw in these past 50h is just not in my power. It plain evades my ability to translate these things into written words.

I've felt the pleasue and the pain of a million lives at the end of paths I had never explored. 12h after the last dose I could still see infinite beauty unfold before my inner eye, could still see three dimensional constructs form on the back of my eyelids. 12h after the last dose this substance still allowed me to become witness to the infinite world of imagination our minds are capable of creating. I went to places in which seconds extend into eternity and the future merges with the past into the now which is as real as all there ever was and ever will be.

Ketamine is addictive the same way Phencyclidine is. I have always tried to extend the experience both in quality and duration. Each time I tried I failed. When I dicovered 2-MeO-Diphenidine and had my first NDE on it a few months later I was able to close the book for a while, able to calm my desire and even keep dissociatives around me without using them. I have only to thank ledbetterp3 for his suggestion to try the hidden gem that Ephenidine is.

For those who feel the same way, for those who have exhausted the possiblities of ketamine ephenidine will be the most precious dissociative currently available to the masses. To others it will cause a blackout at best at the doses I mentioned. The size of these dosages are not a result of what most classically understand as tolerance, but a result of cognitive adaption to the dissociative experience. I have no dose dependent tolerance to dissociatives. 150mg s-ketamine will have me black out like most dissociative naive people would. Just like salvinorin a full-blown ephenidine experience is hard to remember as it is as ephemeral as a snow flake falling into the palm of our hand. We can learn to tune in, freeze our brains to the same extent lack of movement freezes the snowflake and thereby touch infinite beauty, get a taste of the unknown, a new outlook on death and what connects us all to the realms that await us far behind the curtains time.

I am sorry about the lack of content in this report, but there is no way I could ever explain the events of the past 50 hours, just like the word 'love' will always fail to descibe the complexity of what it stands, just like death while living in all of us is impossible to share as it is unique. It's an experience as comforting as ketamine is, it eradiates a warmness that is only for brief moments pierced by sadness, melancholy, alienation and confusion. Like life. Beauty is on the inside, we just have to shut our eyes to see it.

Everyone has to figure out his dosage for himself. As a rule of thumb you can take as much as you are capable of integrating the experience that follows. I suppose 150mg will be manageable for most people, but only at 300mg did I get a taste of the magic while 600mg have turned out to be my sweet spot.

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EDIT: 24 hours later I am pretty much back to baseline. Some of the effects may have lingered due to delayed resorption of the 450mg extravasally administered substance. I kept experiencing waves whenever I massaged the tissue. It seems inflamed now and I expect thrombophlebitis to follow. :( Oral doses should really suffice to do the trick...

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Incredibly written.

Thanks crook, I may take the trip to this outer world when in ready
 

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Thank you. :)

I usually can't write for shit, but this just poured out. Dissociatives can be very disinhibiting like that in the hours after the experience when one's language skills start working again, akin to how alcohol can breach those same inhibitions, only here the product more often than not has a distinct spiritual flavor to it. God damn this is a beautiful chemical. Thank you for pointing it out to me ledbetterp3. :)

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As a fellow dissociative enthusiast - you've just convinced me to place an order for some ephenidine.

Thank you for the very well written report, crOOk :)
 

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Thanks again. I'm looking forward to more first hand reports. Vendors should pay me for this report it seems. ;)

As beautiful as this was, I would strongly disadvise against injecting propylene glycol. I got a thrombophlebitis resulting in the death of a large vein in my left forearm before due to missing a ml or so and this time it seems that my entire right forearm is swollen and brutally inflamed (can clearly feel very tough cables along the arm with reddened skin on the surface. God, weeks of nightmarish pain are awaiting me. I might have lost next to all the superficial veins on my right arm in one sitting. Yay for me, yay for IV injections in the middle of a dissociative experience. :( Fingers crossed that at least the largest median antecubital vein survives these next weeks. Right now even that one is as tough as a copper cable with rubor extending up to the skin over my biceps.

But hey, at least the nerves are all intact it seems. Whoohoo.

EDIT: After a short workout 48 hours after the last dose I got dizzy again. Effects still lingering. This stuff sticks around even longer than orally administered PCP doses.
 
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Thank you crOOk, do you ever mix ephenidine with anything else? I too had a love affair with Ket but never did it on its own, always mixed it with MDMA, and sometimes with LSD and/or mushrooms. I've read a lot about the potential risks of serotonin syndrome caused by mixing serotonergics with dissociatives that might also act on serotonin transport and reuptake. I'm tempted to do low dose ephenidine with MDMA and am wondering what your thoughts are about this?

In fact, interested to hear from anyone else who's **actually** done it. I totally get the theory, etc. so if anyone can contribute with an ephenidine (or similar) plus MDMA report that'd be ace.

Thanks again! :)
 

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I'm not a big fan of mixing dissociatives, since I always aim for the ceiling sub-blackout dose and pretty much all other drugs are barely noticable until I come down, except for giving some flavor to the experience. I have an addictive personality and MDMA is something I'd rather do every couple of years. Psychedelics (and MDMA or stimulants) will just keep me awake for too long. Afaik there aren't any major risks in combining dissociatives with serotonin releasers, in this case MDMA which has a broader effect spectrum.

Combining anything with a chemical that has been subject to such little research is plain reckless though. I've done much more idiotic things (see above lol), but I would still strongly disadvise combining ephenidine with anything or anything other than pot maybe.

Ironically I have MDMA here at home for the first time in an eternity and I have at least played with the idea those two days. I injected 100mg not long ago though and for the first time I experienced the after effects so many people mention, which are said to appear due to serotonin depletion afaik, with post synpatic adaptation probably playing a large role as well, but I am not sure about either. It wasn't enjoyable to say the least eventhough it only lasted a day. I am planning to do a proper MDMA oral dose with another person sometime soon though, so I'd rather not ruin it for myself.
 

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That's cool crOOk, thank you for the update! And if you do do the MDMA + ephenidine combo please report back...

Danke! :)
 

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Btw the pain killing effects of this one are astounding. I've never taken any opiate or dissociative that at a comparable level of subjective intoxication could completely annhiliate all pain while leaving most sensory input intact (inhibited enough for me to run my bicycle against a traffic light though lol).

However, today I feel like I was run over by a truck. My entire body aches and I am slightly irritable. This will probably get a lot better in the next few hours, but it's still unusual and worth mentioning. Mind you I am bipolar and do have chronic pain, so the ephenidine might not be the one to blame here.
 

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Thanks crOOk, so you did mix ephenidine and MDMA? What dose and ROA? Cheers!
 

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No I did not. Thought I made that clear. ;)
 

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Oh OK, it wasn't that clear... so what mix are you referring to as having amazing painkilling effects? :)
 

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No combo, just ephenidine itself. It seems to have extremely strong anesthetic qualities, unmatched by ketamine or any other drug I have used. I'm thinking about slamming 500mg come Thursday, gonna have to cancel a date for that, so not entirely certain yet. But god did I have an amazing time on it. Sleep came extremely easy btw, despite the ride still going strong, but not as easy as after a high dose of ketamine where I often cannot resist falling asleep, let alone remember when it happened on the next day. I could get ahold of cheap and highly pure ketamine which I have had a 10 year long love affair with anytime, it's a 10-15min bicycle ride away. I think that says a lot about how good this chemical really is. I am stunned. I know many people will disagree, especially those who are either more or less dissociative naive and those who dose too low.
 

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Finally someone else has taken a large dose of this stuff. I thought I was the only one. I took about 6-700mg's roughly and had an intense trip but honestly I figured it would sent me to deeper places. I'll write more later when I have time.

I actually remember the whole thing too. I'm suprised you lost memory on it. Or was it that you just can't explain it?

I honestly found this drug very similiar to K but didn't get a deep hole experience. I'm thinking it could have been do to being with another person and not being able to completely let myself go. Not sure. There were times I'd zone out and get that hole feeling but still def not as deep.

There was somewhat of a mental blankness to it which I never really thought of until someone mentioned it but thinking back to my experiences I can see where they are coming from.

The body buzz on this stuff is amazing. The color enhancement is great... I didn't get a chance to test of music that was loud enough to appreicate... I basically had to sneak back into my house and hope my brother didn't wake up and me have to interact with him.... Anyway I'll try to share more later...

I can't believe you were out and about trying to interact with a girl when using those high doses. Or was it that you didn't fully unload until you got home. Was the second 300mg shot at home when you really took off?

Can this stuff be IV'd with water only. I remember trying and it seemed to dissolve good but when IVing I was a mess because I was on bk 2cb and 1p-lsd and stupidly tried shooting it a few times with a dull needle and fucked my arm up..That was quite the trip and not something I wish to repeat especially considering I had to walk a long distance.
 

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I have 500mg of Ephenidine and 2 tabs of IP lsd and 5 .5 clonazolam on the way... I've taken all seperately but have been toying with the idea of combined the RC cid with E-dine. Could this be too dangerous? I know people have combined cid and K but these RC's are more sketchy. I may just end up dosing 1 blotter with 400mg's of Ephenidine though I'd rather just go for the full 500 but if there are any sort of bad interactions I could be screwed. I don't have enough of the chemicals to toy around with alot so Im not sure.

Depending on my mood, sleep spiritual condition I may only stick to a straight 500mg Ephen dose. I havn't used in a few weeks. My brain is relatively clear aside from opiate dependence. Last time I had binged on 3 fpm and mpa while also drinking somewhat. I thought the stims were out of my system when dropping the 6-700mg dose but ended up grinding my teeth and chewing my lips alot so thought it may have been a slight reaction due to some leftover stims in my system. It also made the hangover depressive so hopefully this time I will be more spiritually and physically fit to be able to take more from the experience. We'll see.... I need tips, tricks or advice crook let me know... I realize you go to the extreme so I def won't dose the same way as you... Probably won't IV it either but am curious about how it feels. Is there a sudden rush and coming up or does it take a little bit to hit? Like 10-20 minutes?
 

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Nah it comes on very fast. Not as fast as MXE or Ketamine, but effects will be apparent before the needle leaves the vein. They take a few minutes to build up though.

I injected all the ephenidine I could dissolve in 1.5ml PG and 7.5ml hot water half an hour past midnight today. The rest (600mg total) was consumed orally. It's been 17h and coordination is still impaired, I wouldn't want to leave the house like this.

A major downside is the fact that the main effects only seem to last a few hours, while the after effects can linger for days. Very PCPish in this respect. Still the ~5-8h long plateau after the first couple hour long plateau is an enjoyable. interesting and highly meditative state. I've rarely done so much thinking and gained so many new perspectives on any dissociative.

Depersonalization was crazy. At one point I remember leaving the toilet seat open and thought to myself: "Oh god, what's the owner of this place gonna think? This is really respectless. Oh look that's gotta be him there in the mirror."

Lol, this stuff is bizarre beyond belief.
 

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I thought I was the only one.
The same goes for me :)
IV doses seem to be a tad more potent, but I'd say a full oral dose might be closer to a gram.


I actually remember the whole thing too. I'm suprised you lost memory on it. Or was it that you just can't explain it?
I just can't explain most of it. It takes too much effort to transcribe it.

I honestly found this drug very similiar to K but didn't get a deep hole experience. I'm thinking it could have been do to being with another person and not being able to completely let myself go. Not sure. There were times I'd zone out and get that hole feeling but still def not as deep.
A lot like K, but much deeper for me. Much much deeper. A lot of the magic happened when I dropped off the first 2h plateau which was a wild ride every time. That first phase might only occur with IV doses. I can't tell for sure, but I doubt it.
When I kept busy trying to decipher Whatsapp oneliners on my cell phone and figure out how to reach the keys to reply to them, introspection came to a halt. As soon as I let go again though I was drawn back into that world of swirling thoughts, alter egos, complex landscapes and sceneries.

There was somewhat of a mental blankness to it which I never really thought of until someone mentioned it but thinking back to my experiences I can see where they are coming from.
I get that on s-ket and hate it (which is why I avoid s-ketamine altogether), but on this the void was filled with plenty of things to keep me busy.

The body buzz on this stuff is amazing. The color enhancement is great... I didn't get a chance to test of music that was loud enough to appreicate... I basically had to sneak back into my house and hope my brother didn't wake up and me have to interact with him.... Anyway I'll try to share more later...
Music is amazing. However I found no music was even better. Made me seriously consider saving for a proper isolation tank.

I can't believe you were out and about trying to interact with a girl when using those high doses. Or was it that you didn't fully unload until you got home. Was the second 300mg shot at home when you really took off?
I left like 8 or 9 hours after the last 300mg dose if I remember correctly. Had another 300mg before that in two 150mg doses. Memory is a bit wacky right now.

Can this stuff be IV'd with water only.
I can't tell how pure the material is and whether or not it's the substance itself that dissolves so poorly. I doubt water could dissolve as much as you seem to need unless you have a butterfly and a 100ml syringe at which point one should make sure the osmolarity of the solution is not too low to allow haemolysis (adjust to physiological level with NaCl).

Oh btw I won't have to tell you I didn't drink as much as I should have, but it might be worth noting that my urine is currently dark brown lol. Not cloudy thogh, no worries. ;)


EDIT: This would go soooo well with DOC. Not gonna happen though. Last time I combined ketamine with DOC I woke up in a pile of puke. God they complement each other well.
 
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Do you still manage to hold a full job while taking all your crazy doses? I doubt I'd be able to function at work if I did it during the workweek.
 

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A discussion that probably doesn't belong here. :D

Short version: No, I'm more of a Lebemann who currently enjoys life to it's fullest. Usually this excludes drugs. I am bipolar and have been down a rocky road these past 4 years since I separated from my daughter's mom, drug abuse was a huge problem. I had to pause studying medicine cause I was broke during that time. I saved a lot of cash but it's nearing it's end which is why I am investing a lot of energy into a new project which forced me to be idle for a few weeks while I waited for a shipment of packaging material from China. I focus a lot on my daughter who is with me two nights of the week, try to meet (not fuck) new women every day, make love to those I hold dearest, trying to stand still with my hands open to catch the stars falling down from the sky, eyes wide open to hear the echoes of life reverberate through time into this very moment, louder than anything thats ever been or ever will be. I used that phrase in the report. Dissociatives make it easy for me to see the beauty and wonder of existance. DMT does too, but the content of DMT experiences lies on death instead of life.

God this substance, ephenidine... Only a few key experiences of the last 20 years were able to have such an impact on my spirituality. I know this is often a fleeting illusion triggered by psychedelics and dissociatives, but I've been doing some very deep thinking in these past few days and experience has shown me that I can integrate these thoughts and realizations into my outlook on life and more importantly death. It's as if dissociatives allow theoretical physics to be witnessed as a play on the stage of our minds, as if they gave us a short peek at the unveiled face of our existence. Neurologists would probably compare the state to Geschwind Syndrome which appears acutely after some cases of complex focal frontal lobe epilepsy (don't quote me on the last part). :D

This is the most precious dissociative I've ever come across, only matched by substances like DMT or mescaline as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately, it seems to be even more addictive than pcp was for me. I'd like to stock up on it before it becomes illegal, but I am afraid I wouldn't be able to control my use at all.
 
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That's unfortunate to hear about the thrombophlebitis. There are 2 things to note I have in mind: The larger dose required may have done it and that is also a problem with oral administration in my case, as larger doses caused stomach irritation and ketamine-esque gastric issues. Insufflating large amounts is also, quite obviously a problem too haha... So this never occurred with any other dissociatives?

As for combinations, call me reckless, but I call it curiosity (and maybe a lack of inhibition during binges :p) as I've had quite a few combinations with this chemical already. 1p-LSD was an amazing time. I'll describe it if you wish, but I'm lacking time atm. Other substances I've combined with Ephenidine are: 4-aco-dmt, 4-aco-met, 5-meo-dalt, Allylescaline, Etizolam, Cannabis, 5f-akb-148, MXE, Tramadol, DXM, MT-45, caffeine, 2-ai, Ginkgo Biloba, Gaba supplement, alcohol/beer - and I believe that is it, really.
 
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