Unfortunately we'll never know. But had he stopped resisting, say, after one minute of being on the ground? Well, maybe, I'd be doing something more constructive this morning! You're not going to win this. Had he not resisted PERIOD (same as in ALL the other cases cited on just this thread alone) (Officer Amber Guyger being the exception): well, maybe, I'd be something more constructive this morning!Come on, man. Be fair here. There's a big difference between leaving someone to run away and kneeling on their fucking neck for nearly 10 minutes.
Well. I dunno. Go figure. Four cops with guns and his hands (cuffed) behind his back? Why the fuck did he carry on?But say he runs away.
There are four cops with guns.
He has his hands behind his back.
Where the fuck is he running?
This video proves defund the police is a moronic idea. Fund and train the police to a higher standard, or accidents like this will occur.The officer claims she thought she used her taser instead of her service weapon. The chief of police framed it as an “accidental discharge”.
dalpat077 said:Go figure. Four cops with guns and his hands (cuffed) behind his back? Why the fuck did he carry on?
MsDiz said:What a fucked up country.
He probably would have died either way. And no I don't.Maybe he would have died either way. It seems like you don't care?
Dude. You're a few months late! That individual is already suing the police department (as of yesterday)!Not too much on topic, but WTF: https://abc7.com/virgina-police-pep...black-at-gunpoint-arrested-virginia/10504779/
A fucking traffic check, holy shit...
I’d love for you to go to those threads and point out the “filth” please. Just for shits and giggles.The filth that was posted on one or two threads when Prince Phillip died? Didn't go unnoticed. And I have less time for the British nowadays than most so it's got nothing to do with any political leanings I assure you of that.
Hey. Good Morning.Your post is really well thought out and you seem to have some strong feelings about the role race plays in society. I appreciate the post and understand why you feel the way you do. " the sanctity of human life" remark threw me a bit but so did your " so called white Americans". I guess I just don't see what you do. There is no question that the US has a lot of work to do in regards to racial issues. I'm pretty sure they were all brought to the fore from 2016 - 2020. You ALMOST sound like you believe " a fine and decorated police officer " had the right to do what he did. I see something totally different but that's what makes the world go round.Hey.
As noted: started responding to you last night but it got a bit late to complete.
Didn't realize you were slightly older than me. So whether or not you agree with my take on things: you're at least in a position to understand where I'm coming from. And I suppose it goes without saying that being a white South African: my formative years were not too dissimilar when it comes to race issues. Sadly: old habits and indoctrination during your formative years die hard though. That said and as a direct result of my interacting on these forums: I have definitely come a long way. At least insofar as the race issues is concerned anyway. Of course: seeing the race issues in other countries has helped tremendously too!
Why the above? In these cases I no longer see a black man acting up. My first reaction isn't any longer "serves you right you fucking [insert racial slur here]". In this particular case: I saw a big, fit, hulking, well built dude, acting up even before any shit started, giving the police officers shit, and, well, we know the rest.
Why bother to mention the above? Point is: in these cases there's reverse racism applied and a massive overreach. But that will be denied and/or swept under the carpet and good officers will continue to be thrown under the bus. And if you ask me: that's all worse than being overtly racist. And I put it to you that the longer this carries on: the longer it's going to take for things to come right over there. It's almost as if America still has to learn what most South Africans have already learned (unfortunately it just took somebody like me a little longer) (if not too long).
Unfortunately though: I've seen it purported by some very clever and intelligent people that this is just something that has to happen i.e. go from one to extreme to the other and eventually settle somewhere in the middle. And it has been noted for at least a decade that there will come a time where so-called white Americans will no longer be the majority. They will be the largest group. But no longer the majority. And America will have a hard time dealing with that or coming to terms with that. But it's something that will have to be dealt with. It's just a question of how long it takes and what the cost. Do you really want a decade or two of this shit before settling (type of thing)? That's the question. Trust me when I say it's an utter waste of time and energy.
I'm afraid we do differ ever so slightly on the second paragraph of your response though (some of it anyway). I don't quite place such an emphasis on the sanctity of human life (of any color) (or anything else for that matter) in quite the same way as most around these parts it would seem. And I don't believe that all human beings are created equal and have equal value (again: regardless of color) (and again: or anything else for that matter). Case in point: I see a convicted felon, with a checkered and violent past (to put it mildly), giving police officers shit. One thing led to another. And at least one decorated police officer is now, in all probability, going to pay the price. To be fair: Officer Chauvin has had his issues in the past (based only on what I've been able to read about him of course). But I'd be keen to see how many times he'd been put out there on the line during his service and served the public well (not talking here of the few records and incidents, nor commendations, that made the news or Wikipedia i.e. overall during his years of service). As for society being to blame, or blaming themselves (seen here on this very thread) for where George Floyd eventually ended up: well there's some truth to that. But I'd say it's misguided. Look to your politicians. Mind you (and just an observation): Rep. Barney Frank (D) once noted that politicians don't parachute into The Dome i.e. they're elected.