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Covid-19 Covid-19 Outbreak Part Deux: Revenge of the TP snatchers

S.J.B.

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244 million cases
4.96 million deaths
6.85 billion vaccine doses administered

(as of October 26)

Map of confirmed cases per million people

Map of confirmed deaths per million people

Map of vaccine doses administered per hundred people

Map of tests per thousand people

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As virus spreads to more Chinese cities, WHO calls emergency meeting
Se Young Lee, Colin Qian
Reuters
January 19th, 2020
BEIJING (Reuters) - An outbreak of a new coronavirus has spread to more Chinese cities, including the capital Beijing and Shanghai, authorities said on Monday, and a fourth case has been reported beyond China’s borders.

China’s National Health Commission confirmed that the virus, which causes a type of pneumonia, can pass from person-to-person, the official Xinhua News Agency said.

...

South Korea on Monday confirmed its first case, a 35-year-old Chinese national who had traveled from Wuhan, the fourth patient reported outside China.

Last week, two cases were reported in Thailand and one in Japan. All three involved people from Wuhan or who recently visited the city.

A report by London Imperial College’s MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis estimated that by Jan. 12 there were 1,723 cases in Wuhan City with onset of related symptoms. Chinese health authorities have not commented directly on the report.
Read the full story here.
 
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OHhhhh noooo, it's been a year and a half of this shit and we're still hanging on strong in 2021. How has covid affected you? Are you back to normal for the most part or still struggling, broke, and out of work? Have you lost friends or family? Let's continue to stick together and survive this fucked ass virus...

OG thread here

Much love to all the Bluelighters out there getting through it <3
 

S.J.B.

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watch the video in that link


:Sherlock:

Unfortunately, these folks had some trouble with reading comprehension.

From the article:

Leading to a discovery the biotech analyst called “super alarming,” the report looked exclusively at the placebo group, comparing their rate of infection in the first four months, when they had no protection, to the four months following their injections with the Pfizer product.

During that initial placebo period, the document reports that the infection rate of this group was “12.6 cases per 1,000 person-years,” which equates to a 1.3% infection rate. Following their injections, there were “43.4 cases per 1,000 person- years” or a 4.34% infection rate.

“So, when they weren’t injected, their infection rate was 1.3%, and when they got injected, it was 4.34%. It went up by over 300%,” Kingston stated.

They had less infection when they had no protection. So, that’s a problem.”

Renz summarized this study’s findings, overseen by Pfizer themselves, to his large live and streamed audience, stating, “It says if you get the Pfizer vax, you’re more likely to get COVID. More likely! It says it right there.”

“Seriously? Seriously? It’s unbelievable,” he said.

They are referring to the following section of the FDA document:

6.4.6. COVID-19 cases among C4591001 study participants during the Delta variant surge

Responding to an FDA request, Pfizer performed a post hoc analysis of protocol-specified COVID-19 cases accrued during the period of July 1, 2021 through August 31, 2021 (corresponding to the Delta variant surge) among participants 16 years of age and older who completed the 2-dose primary series. The analysis compared rates of COVID-19 among participants who completed the 2-dose primary series early in the study (i.e., those who were originally randomized to BNT162b2) vs. those who completed the 2-dose primary series later in the study (i.e., those who were originally randomized to placebo and then crossed over to BNT162b2). Study participants included in the analysis were those who remained at risk for first occurrence of COVID-19 following the BNT162b2 primary series (i.e., participants who previously reported COVID-19 or who received additional study vaccinations after the primary series were excluded). The analysis used data extracted on September 2, 2021 from the study’s live database; the datasets were not submitted to FDA.

Although not independently verified by FDA, the post hoc analysis appears to indicate that the incidence of SARS-CoV-2 during the analysis period among 18,727 study participants originally randomized to BNT162b2 (mean of 9.8 months post-Dose 2 at the beginning of the analysis period) was 70.3 cases per 1,000 person-years, compared with an incidence of 51.6 cases per 1,000 person-years among 17,748 study participants originally randomized to placebo and crossed over to BNT162b2 (mean of 4.7 months post-Dose 2 at the beginning of the analysis period). An additional analysis appears to indicate that incidence of COVID-19 generally increased in each group of study participants with increasing time post-Dose 2 at the start of the analysis period. Only 3 severe COVID-19 cases were reported during the analysis period, all of which occurred among study participants originally randomized to BNT162b2.

The reported incidence of COVID-19 among study participants who completed the primary series <4 months prior to the start of the analysis period was 43.4 cases per 1,000 person-years. In contrast, during the blinded, placebo-controlled follow-up period of the study with data cutoff of March 13, 2021 (prior to the Delta variant surge), the incidence of COVID-19 among BNT162b2 recipients in the Evaluable Efficacy Population (nearly 60% of whom had 4 months or more of blinded follow-up post-Dose 2) was 12.6 cases per 1,000 person-years. This observation suggests that while waning immunity is one potential factor that may have contributed to the higher incidence breakthrough cases during the Delta variant surge, it is possible that other factors (e.g., dynamics of Delta variant transmission and potential differences in vaccine effectiveness against the Delta variant vs. strains circulating during the placebo-controlled portion of the trial) may also have contributed.

All of the infection rates here refer to people who had already had two shots of the Pfizer vaccine at the time of analysis. The "43.4 cases per 1,000 person-years" refers to the infection rate measured between July 1st and August 31st, 2021 (during Delta surge) of study participants who had completed their two shots (plus seven days) less than four months prior to the analysis period (i.e. after March 1st). The "12.6 cases per 1,000 person-years" refers to the infection rate measured up to March 13th, 2021 (before Delta surge) of all the participants who had completed their two shots (plus seven days). The point of this section was to show that the Delta outbreak likely increased infection rates among fully-vaccinated individuals even when controlling for the duration since the second shot.
 

Mr. Krinkle

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so as early as May 2019, covid was out there

i still think i had it Feb 2020

it was an odd cold and all of a sudden i felt like it was about to turn into a respiratory infection, and then it cleared up.....my kid had a cough for like a month

and then the first cases in the US popped up in March 2020 in my state
 
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see that shit?

CHYna
None of that surprises me. China has been extremely careful from the very beginning to cover up and bury anything and everything about the origins of the pandemic. Little things like this will be uncovered in coming years, but we will (unfortunately) probably never get anywhere near the full picture of the origins of COVID-19. China has been too careful from the get go to never let that happen. Anything that China says about COVID-19 (or anything for that matter) is not to be believed.

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None of that surprises me. China has been extremely careful from the very beginning to cover up and bury anything and everything about the origins of the pandemic. Little things like this will be uncovered in coming years, but we will (unfortunately) probably never get anywhere near the full picture of the origins of COVID-19. China has been too careful from the get go to never let that happen. Anything that China says about COVID-19 (or anything for that matter) is not to be believed.

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We don't disagree on all things! It's a tragedy that such a matter for choice of terms this time, has divided us so heavily.
 
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so as early as May 2019, covid was out there

i still think i had it Feb 2020

it was an odd cold and all of a sudden i felt like it was about to turn into a respiratory infection, and then it cleared up.....my kid had a cough for like a month

and then the first cases in the US popped up in March 2020 in my state
Yeah me too. I got sick with what I thought was the flu on Feb 27, 2020. Both my wife and I got real sick. We both had high fevers (I had it as high as 104) severe cough and neither of us could catch our breath. I was that close to going to the hospital. Plus it lingered for a month after the severe symptoms got better. This was before COVID tests were available. My friend who was with us for days before we got sick, caught the same respiratory flu as us (same symptoms) a day after I got sick. He went to urgent care and they tested him for the flu and it came back negative. COVID was here circulating in the US long before the official first case was reported.
 

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I wonder what Vermont's vaccination rate is? And how many deaths? If a very high percentage of people are vaccinated, and unvaccinated already caught covid (and the vaccinated hadn't), then 76% of deaths might make sense as being vaccinated, especially if the total death counts are quite low.

so as early as May 2019, covid was out there

i still think i had it Feb 2020

it was an odd cold and all of a sudden i felt like it was about to turn into a respiratory infection, and then it cleared up.....my kid had a cough for like a month

and then the first cases in the US popped up in March 2020 in my state

Wouldn't surprise me. My friend believes he and his girlfriend got it in the winter of 2020 (January I think, maybe Feb), while on vacation. It was like the flu, except no gastro issues and they lost their sense of taste and smell and thought that was really weird. Then we started hearing about covid and it clicked.
 

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I wonder what Vermont's vaccination rate is? And how many deaths? If a very high percentage of people are vaccinated, and unvaccinated already caught covid (and the vaccinated hadn't), then 76% of deaths might make sense as being vaccinated, especially if the total death counts are quite low.

while that 76% is accurate, it's a little misleading given the sample size.

we're not talking about 7600 out of 10,000, or even 760 out of 1000. the population in question was 33 people (of whom 25 were vaccinated).

from the same article:

“For example, there were a total of 33 deaths (as of 9/24) among fully vaccinated people since January. This is a fraction of a percent of the vaccinated population – now nearly 450,000 people age 12 and older." (my emphasis)

alasdair
 

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while that 76% is accurate, it's a little misleading given the sample size.

we're not talking about 7600 out of 10,000, or even 760 out of 1000. the population in question was 33 people (of whom 25 were vaccinated).

from the same article:

“For example, there were a total of 33 deaths (as of 9/24) among fully vaccinated people since January. This is a fraction of a percent of the vaccinated population – now nearly 450,000 people age 12 and older." (my emphasis)

alasdair

right and they point that out in the article.....it's still a decent amount

@Xorkoth the vaccination rate is at 88% in Vermont for 12 and older

so i guess it makes some sense - but it's obviously not working that well


Vermont has always been one of the lowest case and death rates for covid even before the vaccines showed up
 

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I'm curious to know whether those people had previously had covid or if their only protection was the vaccine. That might tell us something about the comparison between natural and vaccine immunity, though the sample size is so small maybe it would be incorrect to draw too strong a conclusion.
 
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I'm curious to know whether those people had previously had covid or if their only protection was the vaccine. That might tell us something about the comparison between natural and vaccine immunity, though the sample size is so small maybe it would be incorrect to draw too strong a conclusion.
Correct, it’s hard to make any hard concrete conclusions on anything yet. This is a brand new virus. Any lasting immunity from either getting COVID or getting the vaccine is way too early to make any conclusions about yet. Although, similar infections have a much more robust and lasting immunity profile from getting the actual infections than getting the vaccines for those same infections. But who the fuck wants to get the actual infection when a vaccine is available and you don’t have to risk getting sick and dying from a deadly pathogen. Anyone holding out to get their immunity from actually catching COVID is a fucking retard. I don’t know how else to say that and it mean the same thing. People that are waiting to catch COVID for it’s immunity are absolutely retarded!
 
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real cool....
Nobody actually said the jabs were safe (or did they, kind of now?).

So wos your point mate? Millions have died already.

I haven't met them. I've been lucky still, to not know of a single person personally to have died (as a result of- makes sense unlike "with") Covid yet, in the traditional direct manner.

But the data is clear. The TV says so. The PCR test this "data" is formulated through the use of is accurate.

No deaths are misrecorded, as any hangliding accident 27 days 23 hrs 59 mins 59 secs after that level of accurate detection of the non isolated (virus?) in the otherwise entirely symptom free man, is just a circumstantial detail for which there would now be no room on the death certificate. Just medical (political) facts here?

Ofc it's a tragedy if nore people are crippled or die, but we are fighting a pandemic here and we just have to accept these unknown risks and losses and do our "bit" for the greater good because it makes sense, the Data doesn't lie, and it's the "right thing to do."

Right?
 

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The Port Authority just called. Offered me a job unloading all those containers. I need some damn canned cat food already.
 
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