coke/meth stupid question

[the_ketaman]

have you guys found that when you get coke, if you dont get the real thing do you at least get a meth buzz and not some shitty ephedrine buzz?

I know it will be different for everyone coz the quality in australia can vary from absolutelty shit(most of the time i hear) to medium strength, and maybe high quality if you or someone else has cleaned it up a bit. But i dont want to waste my money for some ephedrine with some kind of 'caine, id at least like to get methed up, if the coke is crap.

Basically what im trying to say is if you didnt get coked up, did you at least get methed up?

I know noone can tell me for sure what im going to get so im not expecting that, just pls mods, dont close this, there isnt any other threads like this in AUD and i did UTFSE believe it or not and the only threads anything like this were in OD. sorry if this sounds retarded, too many corona's(mates b-day so i have an excuse to drink)

 

[phase_dancer]

have you guys found that when you get coke, if you dont get the real thing do you at least get a meth buzz and not some shitty ephedrine buzz?

Coke can often be cut with benign substances. People in the know check for the common cuts using Marquis and/ or other methods. (see chart below*)

Basically what im trying to say is if you didnt get coked up, did you at least get methed up?

Most dedicated coke users dislike meth and other such drugs. The subtle effects of cocaine are easily swamped by the effects of meth and ephedrine unless the cuts are only present in very small amounts. Even then, as the coke wears off, the meth/ ephedrine effects are still present.

Most coke users would be really pissed off if they could discern any speed like effect. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that any dealer selling meth cut coke to experienced users would likely not be in business for too long - to say the least!

I'm sure a mixture of pseudo or meth and coke would appeal to some - particularly those who like meth but find coke to be a bit lacking in lower doses. However, from what I've heard, most experienced (fussy) coke users would prefer to abstain rather than take something with meth in it.

Marquis and Simons can help detect the presence of pseudo and/or meth. Pure or near to pure cocaine should not react with Simons (cocaine has a tertiary amine group). Marquis should - after sitting for ~2 mins - only give a slight salmon pink with cocaine, however these tests do not rule out the possibility of other cuts being present.

*This chart is not reflective of many of the cuts used today. As soon as people catch on to a particular cut and how to detect it, another cut is found that passes the test.


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[the_ketaman]

^^thanks mate

of course id rather be coked up , but Id rather get methed up and get something out of my money than not get anything out of it at all. We'll i guess i'll soon find out. The people in my area are so crazed about coke atm so i guess there must be something good.

 

[Teddles]

If everyone says that it's good stuff, i'd probably believe them. Charlie kicks arse over meth, it might cost a bit, but the rush is the best. If you find a good supply off charlie don't lose it cause it might be hard to find again.

 

[Bent Mk2]

However, from what I've heard, most experienced (fussy) coke users would prefer to abstain rather than take something with meth in it.

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phase_dancer is on the money (as usual ), as a fan of the 'ol "Bolivian marching powder" I absolutely can't stand the 'rush' of meth/speed (whatever its called these days). I much, much prefer the nice, smooth, gentle, warm glow of charlie - there can be no comparison. The very few times I've had meth'd up coke I've been bitterly disappointed. I'd rather blow the same cash on pills and have some (completely different) fun.

 

[on_the_rise_5]

hmm interesting.. i used to love having meth when i decided i had had enough coke for the night, i find coke comedowns to be so horrible that, that was the way i dealt with them :S
haven been using for a while last time i did was gfinal day after a long break due to kickin a healty habit, and i felt very anxious for the whole period.. not sure if was bit cut with speed or was my head, being messy, but i was very up and down and got into a very big cleanin mood i think to keep occupied due to being so anxious.. bit ot but yeh

 

[Bent Mk2]

Coke comedown? I've never had one. Indeed the only drug that I really have a bad comedown from is meth/speed, honest to god it feels like I have the worst hangover on record and death by torture would be less painful.

 

[deva]

i also dislike the coke 'comedown' although it's not so much a comedown as it is an intense urge to consume more coca cola.

i bypass this by having a good clean MDxx pill ready for when i run out of cola.

 

[Bent Mk2]

And they work? I find pills are completely and utterly wasted after coke. They either don't work at all or the kick-in is delayed by hours and even then there isn't much.

 

[Catfish]

I've seen a ton of cocaine before that would get you all twitchy and paranoid about 1 minute after you do a rail. That shit sucks. Makes you sweat balls too. Addiction is addiction, though.

 

[Dave82]

I hope I don't come across as hijacking the thread, but how does the high from good coke differ from a clean, strong MDMA pill? For those who have done good coke quite a bit, which do you prefer, coke or good pills in a party environment?

Cheers

 

[college_dropout]

have you guys found that when you get coke, if you dont get the real thing do you at least get a meth buzz and not some shitty ephedrine buzz?

I know it will be different for everyone coz the quality in australia can vary from absolutelty shit(most of the time i hear) to medium strength, and maybe high quality if you or someone else has cleaned it up a bit. But i dont want to waste my money for some ephedrine with some kind of 'caine, id at least like to get methed up, if the coke is crap.

Basically what im trying to say is if you didnt get coked up, did you at least get methed up?

I know noone can tell me for sure what im going to get so im not expecting that, just pls mods, dont close this, there isnt any other threads like this in AUD and i did UTFSE believe it or not and the only threads anything like this were in OD. sorry if this sounds retarded, too many corona's(mates b-day so i have an excuse to drink)

As I said in your other thread in Basic Discussion about dangers of cocaine, most of Australia's coke sucks. Unless the dealer you go to specialises in coke (ie. his clientelle are cokeheads or he is himself) you are likely to get coke that is cut with amphetamines.
Whenever I do coke it feels different but at the same time very similar to speed. Coke provides a better state of mental euphoria and a better euphoric rush. Speed on the other hand gives a stronger physical rush. That's the difference between the two imo, speed is much more physical.
Oh, and the best way to tell if it's coke is your teeth and possibly throat will go numb. But that doesn't happen to everyone. Still, it's something to look out for.

 

[college_dropout]

I hope I don't come across as hijacking the thread, but how does the high from good coke differ from a clean, strong MDMA pill? For those who have done good coke quite a bit, which do you prefer, coke or good pills in a party environment?

Cheers

Cocaine is a better social drug, as long as the people you're with aren't overflowing with arrogance and like to talk about themselves. It gets you nice and chatty. Some people do want to talk about themselves when they're on it but for those with any common sense they can be on the lookout for this and stop themselves from constantly hijacking the conversation and turning it back on themselves.

A strong roll off xtc can get you munted to the point where you look really gross and can't stand up. If it's that strong it's best done at a house party with close friends or a significant other.

 

[ilikeacid]

I tried coke for the first time a few days ago, and I was not impressed. This was probably due to the small quantity I did (2pts or so). I had a gram but I wanted to save most of it due to its bullshit price - seriously is the insane price really worth it if 2pts dosn't get you going?

I definitely had numb teeth, a nostril that I thought was running, and when i put my lips on the card I used to rack lines they went weirdly numb for 30mins. I ended up just getting really drunk cause I was not "pumping"

I'm with Ketman on this. If I'm gonna have to get shafted with cut to hell coke I'd rather it have some good meth in it than glucose.

 

[phase_dancer]

It's important to remember that coke is not like meth, and unless quite a lot is consumed, or the product is of exceptionally high quality, the hit will not produce noticeable meth like feelings. Mid-high doses usually produce a certain clarity and good feeling, and larger doses seem (for me) to produce anxiety and scattered feelings - in a similar way to meth.

It's also important to note that numbing - on its own - is not necessarily a good marker of quality. Local anesthetic can be added to produce this effect.

I will say though, for most people - but not all- once they get a get a good hit from coke, they will prefer it hands down over meth. The major differences IMO are the subtleness of the effect and the relatively short half life of cocaine. It's not uncommon for a user to have several lines of HQ coke, stay up until the early hours, and then have no trouble getting to sleep.

However, as has been mentioned, a big session can produce the worst hangover. While the effects may seem subtle at the beginning (of using) don't kid yourself. Cocaine is a powerful drug; CNS stimulant and heart muscle toxin, and its certainly addictive.