Can I sub etizolam and diclazepam for Ashton manual?

[unregisteredguest]

They have a plan that looks perfect but it's based on alprazolam and later diazepam. Are etizolam and diclazepam close enough substitutes? I mean I'm already on etizolam but can I taper with it eventually switching over to diclaz like how the Ashton Manual recommends using Valium? Thanks

 

[Bella Figura]

Yes, but you're better off seeing a professional rather than tapering yourself.

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

Diclazepam doesn't seem to have all that long of a half-life (very limited data to say the least). It does seem to be better suited to tapering than etizolam, but something like diazepam would be better. Doctors are usually pretty good about helping you taper off of benzos if you go in and explain your situation (though I personally would just say that I was already using diazepam rather than try to explain the logic of switching over).

For the record, I have substituted similar benzodiazepines in for what the Ashton Manual recommends and it has worked well (Alprazolam to clonazepam).

 

[Jabberwocky]

Moved because we don't have a lot of RC experts in SL. Onwards!

Sober Living -> Other Drugs

 

[Slow_Mobius]

There's not much info out there on diclazepam in terms of pharmacokinetics or equivalency. From what I've gathered, it's a benzo that's more similar to z-drugs in the sense that you can be alot more messed up than you realize. This property might make it a little more difficult to taper.

To answer your question, you probably could use diclazepam to substitute diazepam at low doses, but I would highly reccomend seeing a specialist. Benzo WD isn't something you want to get wrong. Most clinicians will be willing to help you properly taper off.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I successfully tapered off of etizolam to valium using the Ashton Manual taper plan for high dose XANAX use. So yes it can work (maybe not for everyone though).

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Yes, but you're better off seeing a professional rather than tapering yourself.

Go see a doctor, or better yet check into a detox or rehab run by medical professionals. A lot of people have died attempting to get off of benzos on their own. Stay safe.

 

[DementiaSavantPlus]

You should most certainly see a doctor, even if it is to be a rapid taper that is offered to you. I recently did this and a two-week clonazepam taper worked for my specific situation.

If this is not possible, you can use diclazepam. It and its metabolites have a cumulative half-life that is similar to flubromazepam (and diazepam), which I have used before to taper very easily. It is also perceived to be less recreational in the scheme of benzodiazepines, facilitating the discipline and patience required for a proper tapering execution. I would be inclined to leave the etizolam out of the plan, as it is very compulsive.