Benzos Can I buy a strip of 10 xanax to try them out without being concerned of becoming a slavish addict?

[Tieeurrrop]

It seems that people that are not looking to get 'fucked up' and rather live a a responsible life don't seem to have issues with it.

I notice the evangelists come out of the woodworks on threads saying 'its impossible to control not even once!!!' but they sound like those types who would live to excess in some form or other and need to go from one extreme to the other; the types who then have to find god and preach to everyone else to mend their sinful ways.

Anyhow so I did some very careful experiments with GHB in the past few months and that seems to be generally regarded as the Daddy of downers and didn't find that to be a problem in terms of being mentally compulsive. So is xanax going to be much easier to deal with than that?

I have also never been one to abuse any other substance I tried and I have done all the 'usual suspects', including crack a couple times, bar heroin.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Depends how addictive your personality is. Have you been addicted to other substances (particularly alcohol as they basically do the same thing)? Do you get addicted quickly?
Do won't get PHYSICALLY addicted to it from that amount, but you definitely could become mentally addicted to it.

 

[negrogesic]

Aside from the risk of those predisposed to addiction, if you have an underlying anxiety disorder it is possible that you might find such overwhelming relief from benzodiazepines that the further seeking of this relief takes on a compulsive nature. Alprazolam is one of the most enjoyable benzodiazepines, and possesses some antidepressant qualities. Taking it can provide some individuals with such overwhelming relief that it could present the risk of abuse.

That said I rarely tell people to not try various substances, so go ahead (if you had said you were a recovering alcoholic i probably would have advised against it).

 

[psy997]

I really don't see it being an issue unless, as negrogesic said, you have such overwhelming and crippling anxiety that the anxiolysis is a godsend, you finally feel normal, and then bam, nothing could be better than that.

I've struggled with anxiety off and on, have always loved benzos, and wouldn't myself be worried about a 10 strip.

You never know though, if you have a feeling that it could be bad, I'd suggest listening to that.

 

[Jack123456]

Aside from the risk of those predisposed to addiction, if you have an underlying anxiety disorder it is possible that you might find such overwhelming relief from benzodiazepines that the further seeking of this relief takes on a compulsive nature. Alprazolam is one of the most enjoyable benzodiazepines, and possesses some antidepressant qualities. Taking it can provide some individuals with such overwhelming relief that it could present the risk of abuse.

That said I rarely tell people to not try various substances, so go ahead (if you had said you were a recovering alcoholic i probably would have advised against it).

This is why I haven't tried benzos yet. I think it might be too alluring regarding the anxiety-relief.

 

[negrogesic]

I remember the very first time I tried morphine (20mg of a morphine suspension I had acquired after a friends father died from cancer).

I was in high school and my girlfriend and mom were stressing me out. I took it, went and watched TV, felt at peace, then went to sleep. I had a deep and restful sleep, and woke up the next morning to a fresh, sparkling, sunfilled day. I hadn't awakened like that since I was 5 years old. It was what I had been missing.

I quickly became an opiate addict.

 

[Lil'LinaptkSix]

Edit: If they're real alprazolam
Just eat em up real fast and enjoy. Worst case (IMO) is a little groggy when it's over but rested up with little to no repercussion.
Don't mix alcohol or opiates/opioids with alprazolam.
YMMV

 

[Hodor]

Edit: If they're real alprazolam
Just eat em up real fast and enjoy. Worst case (IMO) is a little groggy when it's over but rested up with little to no repercussion.

...or blacking out, but not before texting various ex-partners, getting a DUI, and just generally being a nuisance.

One's own level of benzo intoxication is notoriously difficult to assess for the user, leading to "delusions of sobriety" where they may think themselves capable of doing things they generally wouldn't attempt if they were drunk.

 

[KS78]

I can say that you definitely won't create a dependency with such a small amount. You have to use it regularly for a while in order to have a dependency. Addictiob may happen though especially if you have panic disorder because of the relief that they provide.

 

[roady05]

I have experience taking Xanax and Valium. I usually get 10 strips of benzos in before I'm planning a stimulant/psychedelic session to help ease me back into things afterwards and I prefer to use valium for the following reasons:

- Xanax seems to have a very weird affect on my mood and decision making capability. I tend to do things which are a bit more reckless than when I'm sober... Personally, I just don't feel 'good' about what it does to me.
- Xanax makes me feel more inclined to redose than valium
- Xanax just feels very recreational and 'buzzy' to me.


For the reasons above I tend to opt for valium which to me, feels more sedating and easily controllable. Maybe because I don't have any clinical levels of anxiety- the potent anxilyotic effects of Xanax just do not do anything for me and the main thing I view as positive about a benzo is the gentle sedation and just general chill happiness that gets me through a comedown? Perhaps in your situation things are different and Xanax will give you some benefits?

Just my 2 pence....don't be stupid and you'll probably be fine. I've had 10 strips of benzos multiple times and never used them for anything other than comedowns or if I have some left over- just on the odd night where I've REALLY struggled to sleep.

Enjoy.

 

[Tieeurrrop]

Depends how addictive your personality is. Have you been addicted to other substances (particularly alcohol as they basically do the same thing)? Do you get addicted quickly?
Do won't get PHYSICALLY addicted to it from that amount, but you definitely could become mentally addicted to it.

Since you mention it being like alcohol that is good to know. I actually despise alcohol due to how toxic it felt but liked the carefree attitude it brought. That is why I first started investigating GHB because what everyone says about it containing all the social benefits of alcohol + more while also being oh so good for you and clean on the body.

Well when I took GHB (2 different batches too to rule out that) I had some negative side effect which spoiled all the fun so don't tolerate that well.

So now I search for the next best thing.

I am after a social booster to take now and then which would not destroy me for days after (like stims used to do), which I find tolerable to take (unlike GHB unfortunately). By booster I mean inhibitions of not caring what people say to use as a therapeutic tool just now and then; certainly would not be thinking of using it often, just like how people do with alcohol when they go out to bars/clubs once or twice a week.

Never had any issues with addiction in the past like knocking coke/speed on the head when it was time etc.

 

[Tieeurrrop]

I am actually thinking the opposite of you. I did use benzos a little in the past when I used to take stims now and then and once bought a whole gram of valium powder for mdma comedowns when I had 2g of the latter of which I spaced my usage out once every few weeks. In that case I did use the valium as intended and found no compulsion to use it more but to my point of our opposing views I hated how long valium lasted and how it 'out stayed its welcome' where I just wanted to use it to sleep the night after the mdma, which worked, but then I would feel zonked out all through the next day. I even remember I didn't know what half lives were and so I would redose again the next day and couldn't understand how I was feeling even more sedated for yet another day after that! I recall though that that was the first time I learned about half lives because I asked on this very forum what was up with that and was told what half lives meant. I thought then that it was out of your system after the first half life rather than just a halving (of what turns out to be a substance with an already very long half life).

Xanax, having a much shorter half life, seems much more suited to my intentions of wanting to use as an acute social lubricant.

I suppose if I had no desire for valium beyond those rare occasions then xanax should be the same? I even experimented taking it on its own one day on an afternoon and found it relaxing but uneventful; so the relaxation felt unnecessary in that case. This is like 10 years ago but it is pertinent because I was a lot less careful about dosing or harms than I am now so even in that less mature stage I did not abuse it so we may surmise I would be even less likely to now. I only grew the fear of them later due to learning about physical addiction potential (I was pretty much ignorant of that class of drugs in that regard at the time I just knew people used it to chill and sleep).

In those cases I really didn't have the mindset of using it for social situations, didn't even really know it could be used for that really, I only understood it could be used for stim comedowns so now I would be interested in using it for more therapeutic purposes; replacing what I used to use stimulants for. I mean stims did have a positive effect of them getting me out of the house and talking to people at clubs (talking shit maybe but sometimes I would make long term friends from it so I don't think it is all bad it was just unscientific and haphazard) though I don't want to use stims now due to the large range of negative effects they have on the mind and body.

I have experience taking Xanax and Valium. I usually get 10 strips of benzos in before I'm planning a stimulant/psychedelic session to help ease me back into things afterwards and I prefer to use valium for the following reasons:

- Xanax seems to have a very weird affect on my mood and decision making capability. I tend to do things which are a bit more reckless than when I'm sober... Personally, I just don't feel 'good' about what it does to me.
- Xanax makes me feel more inclined to redose than valium
- Xanax just feels very recreational and 'buzzy' to me.


For the reasons above I tend to opt for valium which to me, feels more sedating and easily controllable. Maybe because I don't have any clinical levels of anxiety- the potent anxilyotic effects of Xanax just do not do anything for me and the main thing I view as positive about a benzo is the gentle sedation and just general chill happiness that gets me through a comedown? Perhaps in your situation things are different and Xanax will give you some benefits?

Just my 2 pence....don't be stupid and you'll probably be fine. I've had 10 strips of benzos multiple times and never used them for anything other than comedowns or if I have some left over- just on the odd night where I've REALLY struggled to sleep.

Enjoy.

 

[roady05]

I am actually thinking the opposite of you. I did use benzos a little in the past when I used to take stims now and then and once bought a whole gram of valium powder for mdma comedowns when I had 2g of the latter of which I spaced my usage out once every few weeks. In that case I did use the valium as intended and found no compulsion to use it more but to my point of our opposing views I hated how long valium lasted and 'out stayed its welcome' where I just wanted to use it to sleep the night after the mdma, which worked, but then I would feel zonked out all through the next day. Xanax, having a much shorter half life, seems much more suited to my intentions of wanting to use as an acute social lubricant.

I suppose if I had no desire for valium beyond those rare occasions then xanax should be the same? I even experimented taking it on its own one day on an afternoon and found it relaxing but uneventful. This is like 10 years ago but it is pertinent because I was a lot less careful about dosing or harms then I am now so even in that less mature stage I did not abuse it. I only grew the fear of them due to learning about physical addiction potential (I was pretty much ignorant of that class of drugs in that regard at the time I just knew people used it to chill and sleep).

In those cases I really didn't have the mindset of using it for social situations, didn't even really know it could be a thing really, I only understood it could be used for stim comedowns so now I would be interested in using it for more therapeutic purposes; replacing what I used to use stimulants for. I mean stims did have a positive effect of them getting me out of the house and talking to people at clubs (talking shit maybe but sometimes I would make long term friends from it so I don't think it is all bad it was just unscientific and haphazard) though I don't want to use them now due to the large range of negative effects they have on the mind and body.

As far as I can see I think we agree with each other? Maybe I was a bit unclear in my post too....all this stuff is pretty subjective isn't it? But I would definitely agree that if i was wanting to get a buzz on and go talk to people I would probably choose Xanax over Valium. Xanax has a more pronounced effect on my confidence- my issue being that it seems to make me a bit "over confident" and even in my relatively few uses of it ended up making a few shitty out of character choices which I think would not have occured if I was on valium but maybe i'm talking complete bullshit. What kind of uses are you intending for Xanax out of curiosity?

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

I am what is likely described as an alcoholic.
I drink wine every night and have for 15 years. Generally between a bottle and perhaps up to a bottle and a half.
Recently i was down to 1/2 bottle after really trying but back up again as i dabbled in some stims.

Anyway, my point is i use valium to cope with flying on planes to travel for work. I know this is differemt than xanax but similiar.

I occasionally use valium to help a stimulant comedown but not often.

I battle severe anxiety too.
I never take valium to combat daily anxiety, ever. Only to ease a stim comedown (and not every time, more if i need to comedown to sleep for work) or for flying as i hate planes.

My point is, i am a highly functioning addict. I sleep every night, eat my veggies and work hard.
I also have issues with alcohol and anxiety. But i have never had issue with valium as my usage has always been kept to the two extreme scenarios. I currently am sitting on a box of 50 and havent had anyfor weeks.

If you can manage your usage it can be done, however i believe my approach and scenario is not common. I think it depends on why you might take a benzo. If its to relieve anxiety in a social setting, you will become addicted cause that makes life easier in that application.

Good luck

 

[Tieeurrrop]

I am what is likely described as an alcoholic.


Good luck

That is good to know that a degenerate like you can have no problems controlling it (j/k)

Well I want to use it for social situations but not cos I can't function without it, but more like I well know my boundaries and know that without some stupid inhibitions I would take more chances than I would otherwise. I tried all the self help shit for years and I hit a ceiling. I have had gregarious periods with no drugs but I can't seem to get them back.

I just want to use it now and then to give me a push and get me on a roll again same how I used to use stimulants to enjoy socializing on another level and I never used the latter out of hand. I always knew they were isolated high points to be cherished.

I would say the feeling is I have been stuck in a rut for years and it is like there is a glass wall between me and the rest of the world and I wanna punch through the wall but once I am through no need to rely on what got me there as I been there before without drugs I just need a kick start or the rocket thrusters to get me out of the gravity well .

And I guess people are thinking to say 'try anti depressants' but they really don't suit my style in that I hate the idea of being on anything 24/7; I much prefer the idea of something, perhaps stronger, but used in an acute fashion.

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

Wow, degenerate. Very endearing for one offering thought and perspective. I hope this degenerate has provided some insight to one- such as yourself

 

[roady05]

Fair enough man. Each to their own.... I never intentionally used a benzo to enhance my ability at socialising but I could certainly see how it would help. Why do you feel as though want to take more chances? Are you wanting to get a bit more flirtatious with people and potentially hook up? I have always been a reserved guy with that stuff myself and though I have found my love I could see how a benzo would put me in the zone for that kind of thing if i was just single and wanting to meet people.

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

Hmm, saw some reference that i think indicates a joke, sorry if that is the case. I read it quickly and replied

 

[Wiserthanearlier]

I also would strongly advise against using for social improvement. That is the exact pit for benzo use thst you probably want to avoid.

 

[Tieeurrrop]

You got it! I hate how there is such a double standard in society where nearly 100% of western people were probably conceived with some alcohol involved and it is so endemic that it is accepted without question but as soon as you mention any other substance used to increase your sex appeal then it is some big nono that you are using some 'crutch' that you will never break free from.

Most couples I am sure don't need to down beers every time they see each other once they established a relationship. Conversely if you don't take advantage of what you can to boost your confidence (I accept my own limits having for many years been trying to 'do it natural' so am not just jumping straight to the drugs for a quick fix but rather as an augmentation to get the edge) you may up bitter and lonely and kill yourself from depression.

Hey it may not be suitable but I think it certainly warrants experimentation having had limited success with what I tried so far and the main thing is seeing naturally more gregarious people just flying past me in terms of how they get on in that department while I stay stuck. I accept that I am pretty introverted so I really have to force it so any helper in that regard is welcome and I think the end justifies the means.

Fair enough man. Each to their own.... I never intentionally used a benzo to enhance my ability at socialising but I could certainly see how it would help. Why do you feel as though want to take more chances? Are you wanting to get a bit more flirtatious with people and potentially hook up? I have always been a reserved guy with that stuff myself and though I have found my love I could see how a benzo would put me in the zone for that kind of thing if i was just single and wanting to meet people.