Bupe Bupe->fent->bupe urgent ?

[Synergist1]

So I’m going through some pain issues, just had surgery. In the past I’ve done every opiate I could , from carfent to Codiene. A lot of pre-fent H, fentalogues. All that nasty stuff.
In addition. I was also on suboxone at doses between 16 to 2 mg a day over the past 15 yrs or so. Only stopping when I relapsed..
Anyway, I was clean totally for 2 yrs recently, then relapsed before I had surgery bc I was in a lot of pain and it seemed like a good excuse. But the dope is all fent now, and when I went to get back on subs I waited 24 hrs and went into PWD. Bad. Lasted 24 hrs+.
So now I slipped up and took subs 2 days ago. Did couple bumps of street fent that night. Didn’t take sub yesterday, did fent throughout day. (1.5 stamps if that means anything).
Woke up this AM, disgusted w myself, took .2 mg suboxone, then a little fent.
I still have some more fent- am considering a Bernese induction, but I wonder if it’s nessesary bc it’s only been 2 days of use... I do want to do more, so I’m wondering if I did another .2 mg bupe, then more fent it’d be fine. I just had such a weird reaction w fent I feel like all bets are off.
There should still be bupe in my brain, so I can’t understand why PWD are a concern, but ppl are telling me I should worry. I’d love some first hand experiences if anybody’s been in this situation.
Was also thinking: what would happen if I took maybe .25mg every hour alongside with smoking a little fent, until I reached 1-2 mgs? The fent would cut through the bupe blockade, preventing PWD, right?
Then as I come down, would I feel like I’m WDing- even though I have bupe in me? ( This fentadope has long legs btw, so who knows what’s actually in it)
What if I just put myself into PWD, then took the fent to pull me out? Then what happens afterward. Is it a gentle comedown into bupe territory?
Or is it a hellish detour through PWD country, and maybe no way to even get back to bupe land comfortably?
Damn I hate fent! Please help , I don’t want to stretch out my slip, but my wife will kill me if I’m in PWDs valentine day weekend. ThNks for reading, and I hope u can shed some light on this common chemical interaction.

 

[Good Sir]

SWIM is currently going through the Burmese method rapidly over four days in the ICU from massive quantities of fent, not from street but from a reliable known source, I meant to message someone about it but I believe started a public conversation instead? (Sorry, new/infrequent user here.) Feel free to message me on here (still gotta figure out how to dm/pm) or join the convo I started?

 

[Opiate/opioid420]

Synergist1 , did you manage to finish induction onto subs

 

[Synergist1]

I did. For the most part I continued microdosin bupe. .5mg /day. .25x2 /day.
Some days I missed , but the goal was to keep some in my system. It was smoother jumping back on , but I still was laying in bed 3-4 days. I was so terrified of pwd, I waited 24 hrs and I took maybe 1-2 mgs. WAited an hrs or so,and only added by .5mg at a time. Maybe that extended the induction, but I didn’t experience any pwd.
I was tired and unmotivated, but not terribly sick like previous experiences.
Then , for some reason, I kept obsessing how easily I was able to switch from real H to subs, and I grabbed some fent free #4 and some fent free tar. ( I knew I’d still be off work, so I planned a brief relapse. )
It was strange. I somehow was able to ration the pure dope better than ever before . Using only 1-3 times a day. Usually 2.
I expected to go thru close to a g/day.... but 3g lasted over 8-9 days.
If I were working it would have lasted much longer , but I’m out of work at the moment... so even w sitting home all day , one shot in the AM sometimes held me all day. Sometimes I’d do a second one in the evening.
The switch back to bupe still wasn’t a one day event. But within day 3 I was feeling good.
I really think the generic strips are way inferior to the name brand, and that is a major factor.
In summary, if anybody has made the decision to fuck w fent and is considering going to bupe, I’d HIGHLY RECOMMEND switching to oxy or fent free gear for as long as possible ( 3 days up to a week) before switching.
And for whatever reason, I still don’t feel great like I used to on subs. I’ve never took more than 6mg in a day, and try to keep to aprx 2mg.
Maybe that is my problem, but it was 30 days of hell coming off long term suboxone use, and even then. I had tapered down to 2 mg /day. But I was taking 16 mg yrs earlier when I first started it.
Idk. I want to try the name brand strips again and see if there is any improvement.