Opioids Blue bricks got soaked

[CodeineCafe]

What do I do to get the shit out? All thats left is spots of white goopy shit thats like 1/10th what was in there! HELLLLLLLLP!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kaden_Nite]

What are you talking about?

 

[morphonorconic]

^Sensei Kreese here- All Karate Astronauts will face automatic disqualification from the All Valley Tournament, Sensei. Seriously though, best location I've seen.

OP- Are you talking about a pill, alprazolam maybe? We can't begin to even speculate on what you're asking without elaboration.

 

[DKs]

So some of your pills got wet? Or what? Remember that drugs and their availability and even more their street names differ regionally very much! Thus people here can't know what your talking about.
Well, in case your pills got wet and melted into undefinable mud or goo: just try them and go by weight. What could be more easy?

 

[CodeineCafe]

^Sensei Kreese here- All Karate Astronauts will face automatic disqualification from the All Valley Tournament, Sensei. Seriously though, best location I've seen.

OP- Are you talking about a pill, alprazolam maybe? We can't begin to even speculate on what you're asking without elaboration.

Oh shit I forget but I just figured everyone would know but we all aren't from the same area, but here fet/dope comes in them little blue waxy bags in bricks and bundles. A brick is 5 bundles.

 

[CodeineCafe]

But I'm pretty sure the shit literally absorbs into the bag so I'm wondering how I could re-wet them, remove the bag and then evaporate the water or alcohol or whatever. Like what liquid can I use to run through the bag that will evaporate relatively quickly, would alcohol work? Do I do a couple at a time or do a whole brick or what? I'm at a complete loss and we're talking about somewhere between 2 and 5k value.

 

[morphonorconic]

Wax paper? Huh. If both diacetylmorphine hydrochloride and fentanyl (citrate I assume) are to be recovered, you may need two solvents. I would think isopropyl or ethyl alcohol, or chloroform should work for the dope, and methanol for the fentanyl. Methanol might even pull both. However I can't offer any of these suggestions with a high degree of confidence.

EDIT: Not to stress you out further, but something else to consider is the fairly rapid hydrolytic conversion or degradation of diacetylmorphine in 6-monoacetylmorphine and then to morphine hydrochloride. This might impact the solubility etc. The fentanyl shouldn't break down though far as I know

 

[DKs]

Is it wax or wax paper? - There are these 24 hour retard Morphine capsules which are sometimes used, in place of Methadone, for opioid-replacement therapy. They have the morphine in small wax pieces which are inside a capsule. You can IV them easily by opening the capsule and discarding it. You know have to add water and heat it until all the wax melts. The Morphine (it is water soluble Morphine-Sulfate) ends up in the water. All of it. You end up with a morphine solution and as soon as it cools down, the wax forms a thin layer on top of the solution because it is lighter than water and/or Morphine-Sulfate (AQ) solution. You can simply take it off with your hand and do whatever you like with your Morphine-Sulfate solution. Maybe something similar could work for you?
It works for was only, though. I did not really fully understand if you're talking about a wax or some sort of wax-paper...

 

[Zephyn]

Its wax paper, you've never had those shitty wax bags the worst dope in town comes in? "Blue bricks" tho lol... not all wax bags are blue!

 

[DKs]

Nah, mine was always in a peace of plastic foil, usually black. Sometimes in a bit of tin foil. Only rarely tin foil, though. Sometimes a folded peace of paper, but rare, too. Never wax paper.

EDIT: I'm in Europe (EU), though.

 

[lyXw33d]

^I’m sure he’s calling them blue bricks because it’s fentadope. Fentanyl usually comes in blue pressed pills.

And regarding the wax, almost sure he means stamp bags (which are sold in bundles and bricks, the former being 10 flat bags, with 5 bundles together looking like a little credit card-sized “brick” wrapped in colorful pornographic magazine paper (at least they used to be 10+ years ago; though I’ve heard openly fentanyl-dominant bricks are wrapped in clear cellophane). East coast dope bags (NJ, NY, Phily) have always been “waxy” (glassine bags). These must be sold as openly fentanyl containing if he’s calling them “blue” (not referring to color of the stamp).

Morphonorconic, why do you say methanol or two solvents? Fentanyl patches could always be extracted in minutes using isopropyl alcohol. According to Merck (google “heroin solubility alcohol”), heroin is over 50 times more soluble in alcohol than in water (1g dissolves in 31mL instead of 1700mL).

So you could just soak it all in a relatively small amount of rubbing alcohol, with the ruined bags cut up into thin strips and stirred, then pour it through some coffee filters and evaporate at low heat. Only problem is that all of the ink from the bags will dissolve as well, not to mention small amounts of crap in the bags themselves (alcohol is pretty good at dissolving coatings and even thin materials in my experience, but I have no idea in this case), though I imagine it’d be less of a concern than the ink. East coast stamp bags are pretty robust and are made of glassine (which is actually pretty resistant to moisture, but because of the unsealed areas where there’s no tape, the dope itself can easily get wet and absorb moisture). My chemistry knowledge is super limited, so I can’t give any advice on how to “wash” it or minimize impurities. But I imagine so is yours.

Again, note that you’d have loads of ink in there, and it would be extremely dangerous, presumably fatal, if you decided to give this crap to some poor IV users. I’m not sure what sort of ink is used on these bags, but I’ve definitely heard of lower level dealers dumping out ball point pen ink or even worse when rubber stamping these at home.

However, I also have no sympathy for fentadope dealers. And OP is probably dealing if the claim of “2-5k” worth of dollars involved is true (not sure how much cheaper openly fent bags are than “dope,” but if dope costs $250-400 for a brick, we’re talking at least a couple of hundred bags, but probably more like over a thousand). If you’re putting stuff like this back on the street, maybe this is a good thing that happened, telling you to not distribute it. People do occasionally buy more than one brick at a time for just personal use, but I’m skeptical because you’re calling them “blue bags” and not just saying fentadope sold as dope.

Because any extraction will almost certainly contain all that toxic ink, this is a pretty dangerous situation. Shooting or smoking it would pose a very high risk of killing people, and even if the person were to snort it, there would be bad toxicity beyond just nasal irritation (think lots of vomiting followed by liver/kidney failure). If you keep it strictly for personal *oral* use, I guess it would be feasible to do an extraction (I say that for purposes of harm reduction, assuming OP was planning on selling this), but otherwise I think there’s little choice but to chalk it up as a big loss and move on.

 

[DKs]

And regarding the wax, almost sure he means stamp bags (which are sold in bundles and bricks, the former being 10 flat bags, with 5 bundles together looking like a little credit card-sized “brick” wrapped in colorful pornographic magazine paper (at least they used to be 10+ years ago; though I’ve heard openly fentanyl-dominant bricks are wrapped in clear cellophane). East coast dope bags (NJ, NY, Phily) have always been “waxy” (glassine bags). These must be sold as openly fentanyl containing if he’s calling them “blue” (not referring to color of the stamp).

Ok, I get that. Just what I assumed in my first post... So where's he problem? - You know how much you had. So just weigh it take as much away as you want to take. then maybe mix the whole thing with water and filter (I assume you want to IV), or just take it in another way. - Might be I just don't really understand the issue. I guess I would just dry it, mix it good, weigh it and take away the amount I wanted to do...

 

[DKs]

Note, it would probably be dangerous if you kept the ink in and decided to give this crap to some poor IV users

I guess not more toxic than whatever fillers and colours are in the tabs anyway. You think a Chinese underground lab bothers making tabs fit for IV???

 

[Zephyn]

^I’m sure he’s calling them blue bricks because it’s fentadope. Fentanyl usually comes in blue pressed pills.

And regarding the wax, almost sure he means stamp bags (which are sold in bundles and bricks, the former being 10 flat bags, with 5 bundles together looking like a little credit card-sized “brick” wrapped in colorful pornographic magazine paper (at least they used to be 10+ years ago; though I’ve heard openly fentanyl-dominant bricks are wrapped in clear cellophane). East coast dope bags (NJ, NY, Phily) have always been “waxy” (glassine bags). These must be sold as openly fentanyl containing if he’s calling them “blue” (not referring to color of the stamp).

Morphonorconic, why do you say methanol or two solvents? Fentanyl patches could always be extracted in minutes using isopropyl alcohol. According to Merck (google “heroin solubility alcohol”), heroin is over 50 times more soluble in alcohol than in water (1g dissolves in 31mL instead of 1700mL).

So you could just soak it all in a relatively small amount of rubbing alcohol, with the ruined bags cut up into thin strips and stirred, then pour it through some coffee filters and evaporate at low heat. Only problem is that all of the ink from the bags will dissolve as well, not to mention small amounts of crap in the bags themselves (alcohol is pretty good at dissolving coatings and even thin materials in my experience, but I have no idea in this case), though I imagine it’d be less of a concern than the ink. East coast stamp bags are pretty robust and are made of glassine (which is actually pretty resistant to moisture, but because of the unsealed areas where there’s no tape, the dope itself can easily get wet and absorb moisture). My chemistry knowledge is super limited, so I can’t give any advice on how to “wash” it or minimize impurities. But I imagine so is yours.

Again, note that you’d have loads of ink in there, and it would be extremely dangerous, presumably fatal, if you decided to give this crap to some poor IV users. I’m not sure what sort of ink is used on these bags, but I’ve definitely heard of lower level dealers dumping out ball point pen ink or even worse when rubber stamping these at home.

However, I also have no sympathy for fentadope dealers. And OP is probably dealing if the claim of “2-5k” worth of dollars involved is true (not sure how much cheaper openly fent bags are than “dope,” but if dope costs $250-400 for a brick, we’re talking at least a couple of hundred bags, but probably more like over a thousand). If you’re putting stuff like this back on the street, maybe this is a good thing that happened, telling you to not distribute it. People do occasionally buy more than one brick at a time for just personal use, but I’m skeptical because you’re calling them “blue bags” and not just saying fentadope sold as dope.

Because any extraction will almost certainly contain all that toxic ink, this is a pretty dangerous situation. Shooting or smoking it would pose a very high risk of killing people, and even if the person were to snort it, there would be bad toxicity beyond just nasal irritation (think lots of vomiting followed by liver/kidney failure). If you keep it strictly for personal *oral* use, I guess it would be feasible to do an extraction (I say that for purposes of harm reduction, assuming OP was planning on selling this), but otherwise I think there’s little choice but to chalk it up as a big loss and move on.

Probably healthier than the cutting agent anyway

 

[CodeineCafe]

I'm not selling it, actually I went to dudes house and he was blacked out in zans and accidentally hid them in a cup of water and was all passed off and gave them to me for free since I drove there and he didn't have anything. So basically it would be like a free 5k for me but its probably what he paid 2k for at wholesale.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Dehydrater maybe?

 

[CodeineCafe]

Not pressed pills, powder in those glassine bags, and the bags are blue there's no stamp. Its just powder in a small rectangle bag thats "waxy" on the inside and a little less waxy on the outside, but not quite papery

 

[Jabberwocky]

Not pressed pills, powder in those glassine bags, and the bags are blue there's no stamp. Its just powder in a small rectangle bag thats "waxy" on the inside and a little less waxy on the outside, but not quite papery

Ehhh I have no clue then. And what I would recommend isn’t harm reduction sorry fam

 

[RedRum OG]

Also to be considered is that he may have had something nasty in the cup that soaked them. And if they've been wet more than a day or so, actual heroin will begin turning into morphine into significant quantities.

Hard to recommend anything that would be safe. That may just be a loss, unfortunately