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Opioids Abdominal pain after possible overdose?

isaaccain

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I did a CWE and I don't know how much acetaminophen was in the filtrate but I would estimate I ingested about 6 grams of acetaminophen by accident because the CWE didn't work very well as I was using tissue paper instead of filter paper. I used 20 pills, so I can't have had more than 10 grams of APAP, and I saw some white powder on the filter paper, but not nearly as much as last time when I actually used a smaller amount of pills. On top of that, the filtrate was cloudy and had little powdery cloud formations that would settle in the final 30ml (I took it 30ml at a time), but I didn't drink that.
Ever since then (about four days ago) I've had burning all over my abdomen that builds up slowly and eventually becomes unbearable and shooting pains all over my upper abdomen that feels like it circles around my stomach. Will I die? (Not that I mind)

There's no way I'm going to the hospital I'd rather just die so don't bother suggesting that unless you think I'll get some pain pills out of it.

I weigh 53 kilos, I'm 178cm, and I'm anorexic, so I probably have a protein deficiency although I couldn't guess exactly how severe it is but imagine if all you ate for about 3 months was fruit, you'd probably have barely any protein left
 
If it's been 4 days already, you'll be fine.

Also, please, do care about your life. Everyone's life matters!
 
I wouldn't exactly say he will be fine. Is it going to kill him now or the near future? Probably not. But he could have some liver damage
 
The abdominal pain could also be related to the constipation caused by the codiene. But it's impossible for us to say, only a visit to the hospital would give the correct answer, anything else is just speculation.

OP, I (many of us, actually) totally understand the not caring if you die. I have done many reckless things practically hoping I would die. There isn't much I can say in this regard other than I understand where you are coming from.

But, dieing as a result of liver failure is a horrible horrible way to go. Takes a long time and is very painful. You really should follow the cwe procedure better (use the proper filter, not toilet paper). If you do find yourself dieing from liver failure sometime in the future you will undoubtedly regret it.
 
This is a time when you definitely want to go to the ER. I dont know if your liver is actuslly failing, but considering you're having these symptoms after ingesting an unknown amount of acetaminophen, it's a very reasonable possibility.

No one will be able to diagnose you over the internet. At the very least, get into an urgent care clinic or call your doctor's office.

There's a chance you'll get pain pills out of it. If you have that attitude about your life, however, you might really benefit from seeing a psychiatric professional. You really need to see someone ASAP about this, and even if you don't mind dying, I guarantee that you won't want to experience liver failure.
 
This is the first post here on BL I have stumbled upon (granted I'm newblood) that actually made me sad. All things aside my fellow travelled, from reading what you posted I have a serious question. Where the fuck is your family at, man? I know firsthand just like so many others in our community the attitude you have. Nobody is here to judge, or shouldn't be at least. I remember exactly how I felt when people would tell me that somewhere someone cares about me. If you have no family you feel alone and uncared for, every human will. I just want you to know on a personal level that there is someone that cares for you and would miss you if you decided to clock out. Can you think of any single soul who would be affected in the least by that? You very well may not be able to. And that is okay, because I care. I care and I love you and it hurts me to see another hurt, stranger or not.

I won't go on to preach. But, I am here if you ever want to talk or even shoot the shit. Don't be afraid to engage people who care for you even though it is so incredibly uncomfortable for you.

hold on, it gets better eventually. you could end it, albeit liver failure is about the most brutal way one can go. personally? I'd rather die not from my own hands because i love to fight. I will fight this life until I pass and hold my head up high knowing I didn't roll over and I gave it almighty fucking hell.

if you decide you want some support or ever need anything I am but one PM away.

life is without a doubt a bitch. spit in her eye and tell her to her face FUCK YOU i will break you down, not vice versa.
 
Yeah ok, maybe I will go to the ER tomorrow morning but if I say it's been 5 days they might just send me away. I don't wanna have to get my parents involved, so I'll just say I was having really bad stomach pain or something. I know this is a harm reduction sight and I didn't come here for therapy so I won't particularly bother replying to people who are telling me to chin up and bare it other than a quick little anecdote: My longtime high school crush's parents just got a restraining order put out against me restriciting me from speaking to or having any contact with their daughter. Won't go into why, but I feel awful guilty about it and that makes me feel shitty too. Ok, everyone's up to speed
 
Everyone has demons. Nobody is trying to give you free therapy homie. Just trying to let you know you're not alone. In bluntly harsh honesty you sound a little young to be throwing around the ideas you are. And if you are indeed as young as I suspect then at least try to find some sense of self preservation. You're willing to throw away a life that's not even begun? You're life, do as you will. But, a shitty couple months or even a few years is not worth a life. A year is nothing to a decade.

Fuck it. I know you don't want to hear this, but you are fucking around with a very dangerous game that based upon your OP you have no business dabbling in. You do realize you attempted to extract the yuck only to eat "about six grams" of it? Seriously? Harm reduction is my most sacred priority; you're just begging for trouble dude.

Best of luck to you from the bottom of my heart.

And why in the hell did you come to a HR community only to say essentially I think I fucked it but I don't want advice because it will end up in hospitals and trouble with mommy and daddy. Aren't here for "therapy" as you call it? Picked an odd place to be.
 
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Haha yeah at least I caved in eventually though, I'll be going to A&E tomorrow, sorry if I sounded whiny it's just nice to know if you've got liver failure or not
 
Also, I highly doubt they'll send you away without covering all the bases first. Just be upfront with them so they know what they're dealing with
 
Brother, I am not condemning you or saying you fucked up blah blah. I just really care about you, believe it or not. You weren't whiny, you just didn't want to listen to reason.

So? Big fucking deal. Trust me, I have done things sooooooo much more shameful and worse. I know how it is homeboy, there is nlthing anybody can say that will flip that switch and make everything better. It fucking sucks and frustrates me to no end that I've experienced what you currently are (or st least similar) and know that there isn't much anyone can do. It's a sad, sad truth about the game we play :/.

Liver failure is a process. If there's was an MD here he wouldn't be able to tell you anything more than what others have already said here. It is just a shit storm. At a hospital though, all they do in regards to abuse is give you a lecture, give ya medical attention and get ya back on your feet. Send you home with a few recommended treatment centers etc. It is beyond uncomfortable and awkward the first time, but exponentially better than getting locked up or worse.

My offer is still and as long as I breathe will be valid if you ever need to vent or talk or just scream st someone. I got you. I got you homeboy.
 
At least do yourself a favor, and if you're going to continue taking large doses of APAP, get yourself some N-Acetyl Cysteine(NAC). I used to take a lot of it when I was doing stupid shit like get sloppy drunk and took 30 vicodin, which is technically enough to kill you, aside from the alcohol. Never did that again. That is the remedy used in hospitals for APAP overdose, IV NAC. Glutathione is another thing that is helpful if you can't find the NAC. I can't remember the dosages I was taking, but it was a lot. This was a long time ago that I was doing that, and just don't recall. That information should be available online with a simple search.

Also, if you're getting that much tylenol with your CWEs, you are using way too much water. Have you read the threads on the proper way to perform them?

I really hope you're okay. You really should go in to get seen. I think I would try to hook up with a specialist, too. If I recall correctly, the blood tests for liver enzymes is very limited as to what can be detected. IIRC, you may need to have a liver biopsy done. I'm not a doctor though, don't take my word for any of this info, make sure it's verifiable. It's been a long time since I had to worry about things like this.
 
While NAC and L-Glutathione will help don't consume that much APAP in the first place.

And keep us updated, good luck!
 
That's a pretty good call, I'll stock up on NAC or glutathionine
Next time when you fuck up a cold water extract, just add some ice chips and stir it to get it nice and cold again, and then just strain it through a filter again. It takes 30 seconds so there is no excuse to not. You can use an old Tshirt as a filter, or 3-4 paper towels together as a filter. Just dampen them first, then place over a top of a glass and pour. If it's taking to long to filter you can just gently squeeze the paper towels or Tshirt to force the liquid through, but do it very slowly and gently as to not rip a hole. It's pretty hard to fuck up a CWE, Tylenol really isn't soluble at all in cold water so as long as you only use 2-4ml of water per pill, it's a very safe and easy method to remove all the APAP. There should be a huge chunk of APAP in the filter after your finished squeezing, I've weighed it before and it's even more in weight then the APAP should weigh, so I'm guessing also fillers and binders get filtered.

Just remember OP, your life may be shit now, but remember, things will get better, this to shall pass. After using crystal one to many times this past summer I was totally depressed and suicidal. I was pretty sure I damaged my kidneys a bit, from a meth and alcohol bender. I was having early kidney failure signs, that luckily went away when I sobered up and start eating healthy in about a week. I would never kill myself but I was like completely okay with dying if that makes sense.

But then I had an epiphany and my life has changed so much, for the better in the past few months. I am pursuing my dream job, I'm happy, healthy, and drug free apart from some Kratom.
 
Jesus Christ...you can get your hands on a fistful of pills but coffee filters are a little out of reach??

Either get some coffee filters, and do the shit right, or get some better pills FFS!

Problem solved.
 
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