I didn't experience any sort of crash at all, and no 'Tuesday blues' whatsoever.ex) ... how would you compare the crash/rebound from the combo and after the 1.5-2x duration to just one of the chems or maybe a slightly higher dose of them?
I have a question for you @G_ChemThe crash is overall softer when mixing the two vs using either alone.
It’s because at the right dosages they compliment each other’s weak spots. Even with fairly decent doses of both I’ve never felt effects that indicated to much serotonin activity.
That said I typically keep to 120+40mg MDMA and 20-30mg 5-MAPB.
Yeah, the mid level batch isn't bad. Just not as good as my magic batch.IMO if looking at a mid level batch, I think you could stretch it a bit but your walking into somewhat unexplored territory so report back on how it goes. That said, it may happen like it did to me where you negate some of the good from the magic.
Lol no, but that's a great name. I was drug naive at the time and wasn't part of any type of "scene".Also FasterFB I forgot to follow up with you, you said you lived and ate MDA in Canada in the 70’s. Did you ever hear of “Uncle Toms Pink Sassafras MDA?”
Well the batch isn't MehDMA, but it isn't as good as the magic batch. More mid level as G_Chem puts it.I honestly wouldn't try to combine them. MehDMA ruins everything I combine it with.
Great! Please report back your experience with it when you use it.P.S. I just got some 5-mapb in for the first time!!! I'm so excited.
I usually take it an hour before the MDMA, for the reasons you state. I remember my first full on 5-MAPB experience I took ~45mg followed about 45min later with another ~45mg, I could feel each individual dose take about 90-120min to really get fully there. That experience was something else... If I could get back to that night.@G_Chem
When you do the 5-MAPB+MDMA combo, do you take the initial dose together, or do you take the 5-MAPB first.
The reason I ask is that it seems as though 5-MAPB has a longer onset time.
I think the last time that I did it, the 5-MAPB took 1.5-2 hours to start feeling it.
Thanks for your reply @G_ChemHow pure/strong is your 5-MAPB? What does it look like, how much do you take in a dose, and how long does it last? I’ve found purity matters big time with this one and just like MDMA varies so does this one
Appreciate your post man and the pic, I can say that’s some pretty good looking stuff. Based on the dosage, experience and visyal appearance of the product. Just wanted to make sure cuz some batches going around years back were garbage and gave this drug a bad name..Thanks for your reply @G_Chem
I'm not sure what the purity % is. I got it from the NL.
It looks off-white, kind of chunky powdery. Not crystals. Here's a photo:
It's pretty strong. I've only done it once, and took 37 mg (was shooting for 30 mg but oh well) then 50 mg MDMA 2 hrs later, then a 20 mg MDMA booster.
The whole experience (it was great!) lasted at least 7+ hours. I ended up cutting the experience shorter than I wanted to because I needed to go to sleep, so took a couple of mg's of etizolam.
On another note, I found that my heart was beating faster than MDMA would have (I took the 5-MAPB by itself first and noticed this).
How do you find 5-MAPB cardio-wise?
I guess the cardio-toxicity that I've been reading about is the only thing that I'm a bit concerned about regarding the 5-MAPB.
It wasn't bad, but I guess I noticed it because of all that I was reading about it (regarding potential cardio-toxicity).
So my plan next time will be to start with 20 mg 5-MAPB followed by 70 gm of MidLevelDMA (to see if this is a reasonable way to conserve my magic batch).
Good to hear. Thanks for that. I'm suspecting the effects that I got were possibly psychosomatic, as I was reading the big 5-MAPB thread and the stories about possible cardiotoxicity.I’ll say I’ve been taking 5-Mapb for 6 solid years now and have had zero heart issues since those first two experiences, since then doses range from 10-60mg. So it’s very possible those initial effects were psychosomatic.
That's great! I haven't really worked out for a few years after moving to the west coast. Probably should start again. I prefer gyms, but they're not good right now with the covid thing going on.I’ve also gotten more cardiovascular health since starting, whereas I’ve heard folks who abuse these lose that ability.
I was thinking about trying that borax combo. I only have 3-FPM right now, but to be honest, I try to stay clear of straight stims.Another thing you should try withthe 5-MAPB, try 20-30mg by itself or with a tiny bit of speed one night while out partying or dancing, this is IMO one of its best uses.
Yeah, that's one of the big pros to 5-MABP as well as the low dosage requirement.5-MAPB has a linear dose response very unlike MDMA’s exponential response that also has an initial hump to get over. Taking half a dose of peebs (what we call it around here lol) feels like half a dose, whereas taking half a dose of MD can be a waste.
Yea that thread freaked me out too lol. I guess my first two doses were larger as well which could have factored in.Good to hear. Thanks for that. I'm suspecting the effects that I got were possibly psychosomatic, as I was reading the big 5-MAPB thread and the stories about possible cardiotoxicity.
I agree that taking smaller dosages of 5-MAPB is probably prudent, and big dosages are not required anyways.
That's great! I haven't really worked out for a few years after moving to the west coast. Probably should start again. I prefer gyms, but they're not good right now with the covid thing going on.
I was thinking about trying that borax combo. I only have 3-FPM right now, but to be honest, I try to stay clear of straight stims.
At my age, I am not really interested in partying and dancing anyways lol. I prefer my comfy home rolls
I like the 5-MAPB + MDMA combo. I may flip a psychedelic at some point as I usually candy flip on MDMA.
The next experiment with be just a low dose of 5-MAPB + mediumDMA.
Yeah, that's one of the big pros to 5-MABP as well as the low dosage requirement.
If a take too low a dose of MDMA, I find it to be more annoying than fun lol.
I live Greater Vancouver area. It's beautiful out here, and they're pretty lax with drug enforcement lol.Where at roughly west coast? I moved out few years ago as well.
That sounds interesting. Why the maca?I’ve done a modified “borax” kinda, I took 30mg 5-MAPB, 10mg d-amphetamine, caffeine, maca and half a dose of LSD. Made for an amazing night..
I’ve done 5-Mapb in low doses mixed with LSD to great effect too.
No problem!Thanks for sharing man
I really wish more people had access to 5-MAPB, it sounds like it could at least be a temporary answer until this MDMA issue gets sorted out.