- Feb 2, 2002
Sorry for the off-topic, but these posts above remind me why I get so angry every time there's a "first-time mushroom dosage" thread and people recommend starting at 3.5g or more.
djfriendly said:Sorry for the off-topic, but these posts above remind me why I get so angry every time there's a "first-time mushroom dosage" thread and people recommend starting at 3.5g or more.
if you eat 7 gams or more i guarantee youll have ego loss. if you have already done this then i dont know what to tell you.I never, and have never on mushrooms, came anywhere near ego loss
MadShroomer said:... does take 2.5 to 3h to peak but WHAT an AMAZING peak it is. Insuffilation is SWIM's prefered method of injestion as this provides an initial "rush" effect followed by a slow and insanely mild come up followed by a pleasant and extended comedown when compared to P.Cubensis.
Dondante said:^^Glad you enjoyed yourself. Six days though ... perhaps a little excessive?
The long climb to the peak with intranasal administration makes me even more confident that the 4-aco-dmt has at least some trouble passing the BBB. If it could pass easily, you would peak earlier. I bet if you insufflated 4-ho-dmt, you'd peak pretty damned fast. Anyway, thanks for the report MadShroomer.
Update on solutions: 72+ hours for the water, no change. 48+ hours on alcohol, no change. Still both crystal clear.
MadShroomer said:According to Alexander Shulgin, "In the case of psilocybin to psilocin, this saponification is essential for activity, as the phosphate ester is far too polar to get across the blood-brain barrier. But this problem need not exist with the acetate ester. I have explored the 4-hydroxy-DET but I am more familiar with the 4-hydroxy-DIPT. It is of a rather rapid onset implying possible absorption directly from the stomach. However, in a group study with the corresponding ester 4-AcO-DIPT, we felt that it had an even faster onset and perhaps a increased potency. This would suggest that it might be considered an active drug in its own right rather than simply a precursor to the active drug 4-HO-DIPT."
DivineMomenT said:Thanks for doing this experiment aco mule. I have seen many fumurate compounds available so hopefully they will be stable if stored in liquid.
Yoyoman, did you experience a rush when injecting the 4-aco-dmt. This method seems very appealing to me. What dose did you do and did you use saline or just regular water. Does it kick in within seconds? It just sounds like a damn good idea to me. I love needles