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Harm Reduction 2methylap237: a WARNING

There are reports of different batches of this compound being wildly different potency and quality. As well there are reports going back months that it has given people organ damage, hospitalizations, and other very serious side effects in standard sized oral dosages.

In addition to this, it is speculated that this is the compound which contributed to the OD of our dear recently departed friend on BL.

Avoid this compound at all costs right now, and if you are to use it, start small, and titrate!! Please be careful.

Love you all,

deficiT
 
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after some testing i have to to admit that its not that great. worse than tramoadol with is my least favorite.
 
Do yall have a recommendation on an alternative besides odsmt, im gonna make a thread but i went from smoking 2-6g of fent powder snd sometimes carfentanyl, to.going to detox, then using heroin ,(not cut with fent) for those fent cravings, now im kinda cool with opiates, looking for a safe alternstive, i was rly gonna get that 2MAP but wow thanks to this thread im so good.
 
That raises a question I've always found interesting: how capable are drug users of exercising consumer choice?

In theory, drugs are just a commodity like all other commodities, and consumers can leverage changes in the market based on their purchasing power. But of course the picture is complicated by the fact that people become addicted to drugs, the legal environment in which drug use/misuse occurs in, etc.
It literally kills me inside when i hear someone overdosing because they lacked the patience, common sense, whatever to batch test each time they get stuff, its not like you will be wasting your dope if youre still consuming a tiny amount to test it. Its not even their fault really, the darkness of being an addict is 1) not thinking things through sometimes 2) being impatient if youre sick wnd need to get well, which IYKYK and to a degree is understandable and 3) having that false inflated ego and sense of untouchableness especially with polydrug users (primarily meth and rcs like it,, anything that makes you think you feel so good nothing bad will happen, so lemme do a normal shot of this new dope and see what happens)

My recommendations:
1) Take the smallest pinch you cwn wnd eijer ingest orally or smoke (if you IV as your ROA)
2) KEEP. NARCAN. NEARBY. ALWAYS.
3) Idk how it is in other places but here in Cali, if someone is overdosing, and you call 911, yall should have full amnesty bc the main goal at this point is to save a life
4) if no narcan, try rectally inserting icecubes til you shock them awake. Dunno the exact science or effectiveness rate but ive used this and had it work. And they were knocking on deaths door frfr.
 
Do yall have a recommendation on an alternative besides odsmt, im gonna make a thread but i went from smoking 2-6g of fent powder snd sometimes carfentanyl, to.going to detox, then using heroin ,(not cut with fent) for those fent cravings, now im kinda cool with opiates, looking for a safe alternstive, i was rly gonna get that 2MAP but wow thanks to this thread im so good.
I'm not super familiar with RC opioids these days so don't really have any recommendations, but feel free to post around the Other Drugs forum and you're likely to find a worthy alternative.
 
Considering trying 2-Methyl-AP237? Follow these easy steps:
-stop
-no, don't
-seriously it's not worth it, even setting aside health-issues
-YOU'RE STILL CURIOUS HUH
-obtain some tianeptine sodium and enjoy a chemical that has a very similar high with significantly less drawbacks, even presuming excellent & consistent quality 2-MAP.

Having used tianeptine sodium extensively and around 1G of 2-MAP, I can't say it's even remotely worth it to opt for 2-MAP over >150mg doses of tianeptine sodium. Both are short-acting, both have you in withdrawal only a few hours after dosing, both are a bitch to maintain, but only one of these two chems has amassed a substantial body-count in a very short time-frame. Spoiler alert: it's not tianeptine.

Just don't
The forbidden fruit tastes sweeter, but 2-MAP is a shitty chem that doesn't compare favourably to much safer (and cheaper, cough cough) alternatives.

(Let's not abuse tianeptine either, fellow goons, but if you're hell-bent on using a short-acting quasi-legal MOR agonist, tianeptine sodium has an infinitely better track record than 2-MAP, and is pretty able-bodied at sufficiently high doses. Not advisable, but certainly more-so than this crock 'o shite.)

I bought 2-MAP four times and was disappointed every time, even without having experienced any obvious health-problems. Never again! Has nothing going for it over a much safer and better researched "nootropic" (-_-)
 
Considering trying 2-Methyl-AP237? Follow these easy steps:
-stop
-no, don't
-seriously it's not worth it, even setting aside health-issues
-YOU'RE STILL CURIOUS HUH
-obtain some tianeptine sodium and enjoy a chemical that has a very similar high with significantly less drawbacks, even presuming excellent & consistent quality 2-MAP.

Having used tianeptine sodium extensively and around 1G of 2-MAP, I can't say it's even remotely worth it to opt for 2-MAP over >150mg doses of tianeptine sodium. Both are short-acting, both have you in withdrawal only a few hours after dosing, both are a bitch to maintain, but only one of these two chems has amassed a substantial body-count in a very short time-frame. Spoiler alert: it's not tianeptine.

Just don't
The forbidden fruit tastes sweeter, but 2-MAP is a shitty chem that doesn't compare favourably to much safer (and cheaper, cough cough) alternatives.

(Let's not abuse tianeptine either, fellow goons, but if you're hell-bent on using a short-acting quasi-legal MOR agonist, tianeptine sodium has an infinitely better track record than 2-MAP, and is pretty able-bodied at sufficiently high doses. Not advisable, but certainly more-so than this crock 'o shite.)

I bought 2-MAP four times and was disappointed every time, even without having experienced any obvious health-problems. Never again! Has nothing going for it over a much safer and better researched "nootropic" (-_-)
Agree on the tianeptine point. Much safer alternative to 2map237 and the various fentalogues.

I quite enjoyed tia when I took it. If I wasn't on Suboxone I would probably stay on tianeptine.
 
Agree on the tianeptine point. Much safer alternative to 2map237 and the various fentalogues.

I quite enjoyed tia when I took it. If I wasn't on Suboxone I would probably stay on tianeptine.
Thank you ^_^
I concur wholeheartedly
Tianeptine can produce quite the intense experience, imo, for the first little while (if using daily). The withdrawal feels a tad disproportionate, a la phenibut, but if one treats it with respect, it's a gift that keeps on giving! I don't use it much anymore because of self-control issues, but I'm very glad that it's thus far escaped the sort of media profile that thinks like kratom suffer from.
 
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