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2C-X: Dilemma for Law Enforcement and Harm Reduction?

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Australian Drug Enforcement Strategies

Australia has largely followed the US with regards to implimented legislation aimed at preventing the manufacture of illicit drugs. Measures have been introduced to stem the availability of chemicals and equipment through restricting sales of many associated or potential *drug chemicals*, to account holders only. By making chemicals unavailable to the public, it is assumed many if not all producers will eventually be forced out of business (or caught trying to buy from Chem suppliers). The Drug Diversion Strategy has been recently upgraded to include additional precursors and starting materials, as well as rescheduling some into a higher, more restrictive level.

In addition to this, in the early nineties Australia also adopted a US based policy on drug analogues and homologues. The range of substances this encompasses is enormous, and if the law was ever fully enforced it would seriously affect most science based universities, as well as many research projects and industries. AFAIK the law has never been directly acted upon in Australia, but I imagine it could well be cited in court to support the prosecution's case.

The "Analogues law" is designed to affect those who attempt to skirt the scheduling laws by making an active drug similar to the parent compound, but with a slight chemical variation to the molecule

Example: MDMA can be termed N-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-phenylisopropylamine.

Changing the amine, the length of the isopropyl chain or substitutes on the ring (phenyl), will still contravene the analogues law. Of course, many of the possible changes which are covered by the law will produce inactive compounds, but the law is designed more to curb future developments in clandestine drug design for which no specific scheduling exists.



The Big Wide World of 2C-X

We have recently seen 2C-I becoming popular world wide, with supplies of the drug being reported in Australia. As anyone who has read PiHKAL will know, the range of possible 2C compounds is enormous, with Shulgin only making a portion of these. In the past, many clandestine chemists interested in pursuing these drugs have faced problems with obtaining special chemicals needed to synthesize the intermediate compounds.

Unlike MDMA, where the starting material safrole is found in many natural sources, the 2,5 di-methoxy pattern required for 2C-H and 2C-X PEA’s is not found in nature as a convenient ready to go molecule, particularly if substitution on the forth position is desired (2C-X). Asarone can be found in sweet flag or calamus oil, both available from nature, but it must be first manipulated in order to substitute the important 4th position.

Asarone isn’t all that easy to come by though, and with recent rescheduling of 2C compounds, it’s likely the starting materials such as asarone would be watched. Asarone is also reported to be a difficult substance to work with in some reactions, with cooks often going to great lengths in attempt to maximize yields.

...however, a recently published paper now looks set to change all this...


Candy’s Dandy, and the PMA connection

Most Bluelighters know about PMA. It is to Anise oil as MDA is to sassafras, but anethole from anise oil is already one step closer to PMA or PMMA, than safrole from sassafras is to MDA or MDMA.

Sassafras oil is becoming increasingly difficult to obtain, due to there being few uses for it other than for synthesizing MDMA. It does have valuable uses as a delousing agent IMO, but as safrole is rated as a carcinogen, it is no longer used as a flavoring, and has strict guidelines set for the maximum allowable concentration of sassafras oil in any product applied to the skin or scalp. Anise oil on the other hand is easily obtainable as it is used extensively in the flavoring and confectionary industries.

This oil and the desired ingredient anethole are well entrenched in these industries, making replacement difficult. This is compounded by the properties of Anise, which allows many flavor variations to be achieved. Any replacement therefore would probably require several substances to be selected from depending upon the original recipe. Bakers, chefs, food tech businesses etc would hate it.

However, despite anethole being a starting material to a deadly drug, and despite the quick action by government to restrict availability of other starting materials such as sassafras oil, anethole and oil of anise aren't even considered. What a red tape nightmare that would be! Unless there was strong public outcry [read: more deaths related to PMA] nobody in the appropriate place would risk his position on such a pro-active out on a limb stance. Who would listen anyway if the public wasn't jumping up and down?

This is why the threat of PMA passed off as MDMA is seriously real. Producers may source anethole because they actually prefer the drug, but I believe it’s more because safrole is unable to be sourced, or is too expensive. Anethole is cheap, can be easily diverted from legit sources, is food grade quality (doesn't mean anything here) and is 2 steps from PMA.

PMA is known to be a very dangerous drug, responsible for several deaths world wide including Australia. Figures from an Australian PMA report indicate that of the 32 literature reported deaths associated with PMA worldwide, 16 (50% ) of those have occurred in Australia (cheers drplatypus). So it does make the risk of accidentally consuming PMA a very real and on-going concern in this regard.


Can anethole be used for something other than synthesizing PMA and making candy?

Although several advancements in clandestine chemistry have come directly from the discoveries of the chemists themselves, most breakthroughs come from literature and published papers. Many are not specific to drug chemistry, but the techniques may be applied to that particular area or group of substances.

The recent discovery concerning 2C-X however came from a toxicology institute in Belgium. The intent of researchers was to discover whether anethole is currently being used to make 2C precursors, by establishing whether or not it could be done using easy to obtain (OTC) chemicals. The effect was to send an enthusiastic cheer throughout the clandestine community. This it would seem, is the breakthrough many had been waiting for.

The procedures outlined all use OTC (over the counter) chemicals, arriving at the starting molecule for an almost limitless number of compounds. While the 2C-T compounds and more complex substitutions would require non OTC chemicals to synthesize, the scope of the educated psychedelic chemist has increased perhaps 10 fold or more with this discovery.




INTRODUCTION:
Anethole is the main component of anise oil and can be used in the (clandestine) synthesis of 4-methoxy(meth)amphetamine (PM(M)A). It has now been found that anethole can be used as precursor for other phenylethylamines (PEAs) as well. The finding is exemplified for 4-bromo-2,5-dimethoxyphenylethylamine (2C-B)

CONCLUSION:
It is possible to synthesize phenylethylamine derivatives different from PMA and PMMA using anethole as precursor. The total yield of 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde from anethole varies between 15-25%. The total yield of 2C-B from 2,5-dimethoxybenzaldehyde amounts 20% (using easily procurable compounds). ca.



Stepping into the Unknown

So what does all this mean for Harm Reduction and outreach groups? If the choice of drugs available not only changes irregularly, but is also likely to involve completely new and untested substances, then any HM group will feel the pressure. Many of these drugs are untested in man. Even Shulgin approached such things very cautiously, always noting any reported adverse affects in animals before trying a new substance. When this information wasn’t available, a sensible caution was applied by starting at very low doses and gradually increasing until affect was noticed or the compound deemed to be inactive. Another thing to remember with Shulgin’s methods of bio-assaying new compounds was that many of these substances were not taken for prolonged or extended periods, so little if anything is known of the long term dangers.

Just how HR groups are to respond to such a situation will depend very much on what decisions are made by governments in regards to how increased safety can be achieved. It would be another card on the table for lab testing, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see if and when such a plethora of drugs becomes available.
Still, it should be seen as important that such matters are raised as soon as they become apparent. Discussion breeds preparation after-all.


Edit: removed dead links; p_d
 
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really good read p_d! thanks for spending the time to write it.
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Thanks for that phase, I sympathise with your frustration, I hate it when a server error or dialup disconnection during submission erases a post you've put hours into. Nice recovery!

BigTrancer :)
 
That was a great read! Extremely interesting! Cheers dude!
 
U raised so very interesting points there Phase Dancer!!
Found it very interesting too!
 
Interesting to point out that all new substances have been available since the early 50's to those in the know. After some time these substance move into the mainstream market and are then controlled. However by the time these substances are controlled, new substances/drugs are available to the underground.

Currently this cycle is gaining speed through the internet and increased connectivity between nations and peoples.

There are innumerable intoxicants you can use given the knowledge and sources.

Even now there are super potent new tri-cyclic indoles that may well become available soon in the grey market.

From a harm reduction point of view. It is best to have one expert that is well versed in the community of underground research chemicals. Sources/Effects/Dangers etc... With one or more good references for such chemicals it will ease the larger community of burden of investigating and researching these substances independently.

P_D. I suggest that you get together a few people and discuss how start up an independent group to investigate the current availability of these new compounds. Be one step ahead before the substances become mainstream and no one has any idea how to react. Perhaps setup a website dedicated to a knowledge base, where information can be concentrated about little known chemicals. A source that naive/lay users can get unbiased information.

Erowid offers this, but its really a one way source, there is little discussion. Their Q&A is a step in the right direction.

Just some ideas anyway. :)
 
Thanks Leprechaun, interesting post with good ideas. I've recently suggested establishing a chemistry and pharmacology based Bl forum. It would not be "recipe" based, but instead discuss fundamentals of both disciplines with a broader base than current discussion forums concerned with these subjects, while avoiding specifics do do with yields and methods directly relating to manufacturing. I don't know whether we a quite ready for a forum like that just yet, but we'll wait and see if any support is there .

The main advantage in regards to your suggestions, is that such a forum could be the centre for exposing or making enquiries regarding new substances. The chemistry and pharmacology, being the basics of any drug understanding, can then be viewed in one place. The other advantage is that it could free up other forums, resulting in less speculation without a corrective response being too far away - less misinformation etc.

Towards Leprechaun's idea of investigating the availability of these chemicals and future inventions of this sort; I think BL probably already has many of the essential ingredients for this i.e. bluelighters in the know, or with access to such info %)

However, I must emphasise that any collection of discovery chemicals combined with colourful discussion, may have the opposite affect of that intended. Presentation would therefore need to carefully considered.


I think the best political point to press is that PiHKAL should not only be legal and accessible in all parts of Australia, but more importantly, should be recommended by authorities AND be considered THE reference book on these *new* substances.

And NO, I certainly don't think any government should produce and issue their own watered down account of the book. It's time for governments to grow up and get with the times, or as we'd like to see it, be slightly ahead of them in more realistic ways than restricting something before it gets here, which usually has the negative result of attaching appeal 8)

All users need to have access to this material. Shulgin knew what he was doing by preparing his book the way it is. Without copyright permission it isn't reproducible, but maybe it's time to ask Shulgin if Aus RaveSafe and Enlighten groups could distribute the relevant sections of his book to HR workers and volunteers, who may not come across the drugs prior to interventions involving them.

Sorry if I got on the high horse. Literature restriction is a touchy subject with me :|

Thanks again for your comments Leprechaun and others. Any ideas or suggestions like Leprechaun are most welcome
 
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Interesting stuff to ponder! Tip top work p_d!

Just from a criminological point of view it is fascinating the amount of times use of the criminal justice system has the reverse effect of what it intends to achieve, a clamp down on sassafras and mdma leading to first pma and now from pma to the uncharted waters of the 2C family. Further evidence that the use of CJS in complex social phenomena such as drug use is counter-productive. I agree with you direct and indirect outcomes must always be very carefully investigated.
 
thought this may be worth a *bump* with current media interest in "research chemicals"
 
timely bump.

so, any progress w/setting up a neuropsychopharmacology forum?
 
^^^ It's a tough one, due to the very high chance that recipes will be discussed. I'm not saying no, I'm just saying a lot of thought would have to be put into it.
 
nanobrain: If you have topics to discuss, feel free to discuss any drug-related science matters here or in the other drug forums on BL as appropriate.

BigTrancer :)
 
I find thats BULLSHIT< that a precurser to MDMA has been made hard to obtain, while a PMA precurser is alot easier.

It almost makes me angry.

Are we going to have any form of lab testing this millenium?
 
I find thats BULLSHIT< that a precurser to MDMA has been made hard to obtain, while a PMA precurser

I first read your post and thought I must mention that we are talking about starting materials (anethole-> PMA or Safrole -> MDMA); substances a long way from any form of PEA or AMP....

...but then I thought ... shit the precursors (1 step away) probably are available - as in not restricted - for many other drugs of this class... so I had a wee look in the Sigma Catalogue. While I couldn't see the direct precursor to PMA, there are many chemicals which would be classed as "in-between" or almost there. I'd bet none would attract any attention, but then again you couldn't hope to label everything with a 4-methoxy or methylenedioxy group. Besides, there's countless molecules just a step or 2 away from either of these groups.

It's all very immense. For anyone really intent on making a drug, whether that's PMA or even LSD as an extreme example, the chemicals can be obtained, or made from something else if someone has the knowledge. It's very immense - the industry - but the chemistry in most examples is pretty elementary stuff.

Intent is everything.


Here's a slightly off topic rant.


Ever wonder why and how there's so many sports enhancing drugs - new steroids, hormones etc? It might be all very well and good to say there's big money in them so people invent them. Sure. But who? Who are the chemists?

Steroid and hormone chemistry is pretty tricky stuff. Can't learn this stuff overnight like an MDMA synthesis; it takes years. It can also take years to work out how to make something and several months for some reactions to occur.

If you were to say these Chemists are probably mostly Russian chemists working for the mafia or something similar, you would be only partly correct. An article titled Doping By Design in the Feb edition of Scientific American covers this rather fascinating subject.

So WTF has this to do with illicit drugs? Well, the bottom line is; there is no work for these highly trained people and presently we are seeing a similar thing happen to synthetic chemists who, up until now may have been employed with major drug companies. The difference being that this time it's not so much an area of research which is disappearing, but rather a need for the chemists themselves.

We have seen drug design go from following nature's lead and attempting to improve on it, to now where QSAR and similar models are used to design a substance and know of it's properties before it's even made. While it's not yet a perfect system, it someday will be.

Drug discovery also uses combinatorial chemistry and techniques like "split and pool resin synthesis, solid phase and scaffold chemistry. All these techniques produce several compounds, maybe even in the hundreds or thousands per beaker. A sort of refined "toss it in and see what comes out" approach. The substances are checked for activity by using immunoassay and similar techniques. Then the desired substance is isolated and it's structure determined.

This is (or more correctly: has traditionally been) where the synthetic chemist steps in. But synthetic approaches using traditional means are slowly disappearing. More cost effective and efficient methods such as those involving genetically altered bacteria and fungi, as well as ever expanding carbohydrate and protein chemistry, are leading to a future where there will be little need for chemists with advanced synthetic skills.

They have machines to assemble long proteins - easy chemistry - and lots of enzymes to manipulate carbohydrates. The future will eventually see many competent chemists out of work - redundant.

Only their future may not be as restricted as was their predecessors the hormone chemists, who needed specialised equipment and conditions not available at the hardware store. It does leave a lot of what ifs, some posing unimaginable possibilities.

But perhaps more to the point, how many presently employed chemists who have access to the vast databases (some companies add 1/2 million or more compounds a year) involved with neurological or antidepressant research, have their own little stash library of formulae, preparing for inevitable redundancy?

It will be hard to assign a zero tolerance badge to drug taking, when even the analysts may not be able to dectect the presence, or even establish a single complex structure. And this may be but one of a multitude of drugs with a new one made each batch. What I'm saying is, it's much easier to come up with, or produce a novel psychedelic, than it is to make undetectable steroids.
 
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