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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

Flower Fairy

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when you're banging, other ROA's are not even an option haha.

I had my first heroin injected, wasn't told I could smoke it, but then met a bloke who only smoked it off foil, so I had to aswell but before long we broke up for a little while so I went back to hitting up, and when we met up again not long after and got back together he had also started hitting up by then too lol
 

Bare_head

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from how my father reacts from methadone injection (170mg a day iv) i would say never get involed (its not worth it)
 

nznity

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I really hate it when doctors and other people who have no first hand experience compare opiate withdrawal to the flu.

I've had the flu, withdrawal is substantially worse
Calling it a flu is fked up imo, it's SOSOSOSOSOOSO MUCH worse like you say. At least with the flu you can sleep it off with a minor headache. THIS SHIT u can't EVEN SIT STILL FOR A MONTH, your whole body aches, watery eyes, runny nose,puking, diarrhea, can't sleep properly for a month at least with a nice first 5 days of NO SLEEP.Hyperalgesia,everything hurts, no energy. and when finally all thatpasses, u are left depressed with a lingering depression/anhedonia that makes you think "Fuck this, my tolerance is low right now. I'ma get high as fuck" Cycle repeats.
 

JessFR

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Calling it a flu is fked up imo, it's SOSOSOSOSOOSO MUCH worse like you say. At least with the flu you can sleep it off with a minor headache. THIS SHIT u can't EVEN SIT STILL FOR A MONTH, your whole body aches, watery eyes, runny nose,puking, diarrhea, can't sleep properly for a month at least with a nice first 5 days of NO SLEEP.Hyperalgesia,everything hurts, no energy. and when finally all thatpasses, u are left depressed with a lingering depression/anhedonia that makes you think "Fuck this, my tolerance is low right now. I'ma get high as fuck" Cycle repeats.

Exactly.

That doctors frequently compare opioid withdrawal to the flu or a cold really highlights the difference between assuming what it's like in the basis of a description in a book or a list of symptoms, and actually knowing what it's like because you've experienced it.

Like you said, you can't sleep, at least can usually sleep through most of a flu. Flu doesn't make it hurt just to sit still compelling you to keep moving your limbs just so it hurts the tiniest bit less. Making it impossible to get even the slightest bit comfortable as time just drags on and on.

Id take the flu any day over that shit.
 

nznity

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Exactly.

That doctors frequently compare opioid withdrawal to the flu or a cold really highlights the difference between assuming what it's like in the basis of a description in a book or a list of symptoms, and actually knowing what it's like because you've experienced it.

Like you said, you can't sleep, at least can usually sleep through most of a flu. Flu doesn't make it hurt just to sit still compelling you to keep moving your limbs just so it hurts the tiniest bit less.

Id take the flu any day over that shit.
same, omg forgot to mention the goosebumps hotflashes. Last year when i was wding in winter i was like fuck i wish i would be experiencing this in summer, then in summer was in the same place but omfg i swear i take cold weather over hot weather when in wd. It felt so much worse idkyyyy.
 

JessFR

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Weird, usually I'd prefer to be warm than cold in withdrawal.

Just cause withdrawal makes you feel the cold sooooo much more.

When you're high on opioids all the time you don't feel cold much. But in withdrawal even slightly cool weather suddenly feels freezing cold.
 

nznity

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Weird, usually I'd prefer to be warm than cold in withdrawal.

Just cause withdrawal makes you feel the cold sooooo much more.

When you're high on opioids all the time you don't feel cold much. But in withdrawal even slightly cool weather suddenly feels freezing cold.
yeah but in a TOO HOT enviroment it feels really uncomfortable, at least for me.
 

JessFR

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If i was snort to heroin afgani brown powder 79% purity should my first dose snorted be less than 10 mg?

If you have no opioid tolerance? Yeah that sounds like a fairly safe place to start.

I'm basing that off morphine starting doses and scaling it to heroin potency though. Its been a hell of a long time since I didn't have a tolerance so I don't have the benefit of recent experience starting herom with little to no tolerance.
 
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