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Mental Health Unwilling to treat symptoms

johnjames2222

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Hey guys.
I've lived pretty hard, done some various substances over the years. Never really had any problems though. But know my lungs are about done I dont have long. Over the last few years anxiety and panic have steadily worsened til every day is hell. my symptoms are very severe. I cant even communicate with my life long friends or family anymore, I just stay in my house avoiding everything. I have long hair and use medical marijuana and have references to my drug use in my medical history. never addiction or pharmaceuticals but every medical professional I.ve attempted to tell about the severity of my symptoms completely refuses to even discuss them with me even though I'm terminally ill. I don't want to waste the time I have hiding from the world. completely miserable but cant find any options. How can I find help from the medical community with my history? I just need a fair evaluation and consideration of my options

Thanx
 
What is your terminal illness? You understand that this is a malady that will likely end one's life? Are you talking about your anxiety?

What is wrong with your lungs? Do you smoke a lot? If so, what do you smoke and please detail otherwise.

Something is off here. If every doctor refuses to treat these symptoms, and more so a terminal disease, then there's something that you're leaving out.

Then don't hide. Slowly build and expand your comfort time around the citizenry.

Are you prescribed the marijuana?

Why do you avoid people, though? Is it some fear of what they will do to you?

Are you safe? Are the people around you safe?

My hunch is that you're leaving out some pretty important information. Now this is the internet, but we do have rules and hold our mods to high standards. If you don't let us in on your whole situation, we can't help you as much.

Take some time off to meditate. Start exercising. Those two are so important to me.
 
Thank you for taking the time to reply man. I.m not trying to leave anything out. Here is the situation. Both my parents died of lung disease before they were 60. I started smoking young and I worked fabricating big bridge steel. between the genetic disposition and the very dirty Steele environment my lungs never had a chance. copd was already starting to take hold when i was 24. I think there was probably some environmental affect that damaged all 3 of us at some point but who knows. Anyway I've suffered from minor bipolar like my mom and pretty much used marijuana as my mental health medication. I,ve smoked pot from the time I woke up till i went to sleep since i was 16. It never effected my performance at work or anything. stoned was my normal. if i wasn't high i wasn't me. theres been some points in my life where a abused things pretty bad. crack meth alcohol acid and so on but if things started getting to far outta hand I always stopped. at least for a while. anyway I never could understand people with severe mental disorders. i meen i knew it was real to them but i just couldn't imagine it till the day my buddy gave me a couple zoloft saying they were like valium. I had never had any kind of bad reaction to a drug before butt hows 2 Zoloft obviously did not jive with what ever minor chemical imbalance i inherted from my mother because right away i was super anxiuse having panic attack. I had no idea what it was id never felt it before. I even went to the er. They were very confused obviously because a couple zoloft wouldnt normaly affect someone like that but it did. I couldnt work for over 2 weeks. id make my girlfriend drive me to the hospital 3 towns away and just circle it cause i felt like i was dying and i wanted to be close. After the pandora was out of the box. my mental health was an on of issue for the rest of my life. Im a long haired hippie drug user. no doctor but one nice lady doctor i met here in michigan one time has been willing to even listen to my symptoms. They see me with my long hair and marijuana use they just think I'm a drugseeker no matter how I try to explain the severity of my symtoms. I couldnt take it anymore one morning in texas, Id been up for three days miserable so i went into the er to try to get help. The old doctor I saw was friggin brutal. telling me I came to the wrong place to try to get druggs and a bunch of mean stuff i really didnt need to be hearing when i was allready at the end of my rope. but it is what it is. about 6 month later we moved to michigan. allmost rite away i went to mental health to try to get help. I actually spoke to the phychiatrist in charge of the local branch. I sitting there trying to explain to him the severity of what I.m experencing and the affect its having on my life and the people around me, and he just keeps saying well thats normal, lots of people feel that way. he even told me not sleeping for ofver three days was normal and lots of people diud that all the time. I was there seeking help because i was becoming suicidal and i had allready basicly told him that. He asked me if i had a plan because if i did he would have to put me on a watch. which i understood how that worked and obviously said no. which im sure he new i would. Then he basicly said id be fine and if i was going to end it i should go to the hospital first. and that was that. to this day i dont understand what he was doing by all that, I can usually understand a persons motivations, opinions, desired outcome, and stuff but what hed did that day still makes no sence. obviously he new that thows were some obvious indicators of mental distress. I dont think he thought I was faking. maybe he did but it dosnt seem that way. I'll never understand that one. The next time i tried to reach out for help it was to this arragont closeminded friggin lung doctor i had. I started to try to to tell him how bad my anxiety and panic were affecting my life and as soon as he understood what i was beginning to tell him he literally stood up and as he was walking out of the room he said "oh no, your on enough drugs" This was because i had been prescribed my medical marijuana by another doctor and he disaproved. I realize that he may have had a write to feel that way from his point of view. but in reality marijuana was the only thing keeping me from completely deterioting. if i didnt smoke i would have completly irrational mood swings with intense anger and things like that then if i got to smoke i would instantly feel like a complete ass for the way i had been acting. hats just one example. i was not myself without it and that combined with what i was going through with my mental state quitting weed would not have been beneficial believe me. If your wondering whatthe benefits of getting off the weed would be in the long run, I've done it twice once for 8 months and once for 1 both times with negative side affects that got better when i started again. Anyway I,ve tried to discuss my mental state with a couple doctors since but because I,m a medical marijuana user (yes prescribed by a doctor even i would have anyway) and because its in my medical history that ive used drugs over the years they refuse to even discuss any typ af controlled substance as an option. even though ive never used any pharmaceutical drug recreational in my life. have never had any kind of addiction crissis. and I literally will be hospitalized in less than a year because of my emphezema. (I cant even shower without help. i lose my breath so bad i will pass out) Ive supposed to have ben on oxygen for the last year, im just putting it of as long as possible. so obviously any long term side affects really aren't a factor, not that they probably would anyway I stopped doing meth after doing it every day for 9 months and didn't really even crave. I realize it could be different with benzos but if crack couldn't grab me i doubt it. but its a none issue anyway I will be hospitalized soon. As far as what i'm currently experiencing you should know I have my girlfriend of 20 years with me here and everything fine im not dangerous just completely frigging miserable. I sleep pretty much 6-8 hours every 2 or three days (after taking 4 over the counter sleeping pills and allmost half a bottle of nyquil, even that dosnt knock me out but it's enough after afew days without sleep that i eventually get some) i dont feel drowsy at all i can lie in the dark for hours just with my mind playing back every little interaction it can remember every thing ive ever done wrong, every thing bad thats happened. the bad things that are about to happen, (emphezema is not a pretty or fast death) you get the idea. I moan my body spasms i yell out loud at bad thoughts. it sucks.

Any way man I appreciate you taking the time to show your concern I really do. I was online trying to find some sort of option when i found this board and thought maybe someone might have some advice. i cant really imagine what but defiantly worth trying at-least. It kinda feels good just writing it down. I.m really bummed Im going so early and Im going to miss so much stuff but I,ve had along time to come to grips with that. I just hate that what time i do have to enjoy here is being wasted to this friiging anxiety. I know anxiety meds would miraculously cure me or anything but i think the might at least make it so i could go outside or talk to my friends and family. I know its pretty much my choices in life that brought all this on but that dosn't make it suck any less.

Thanks again for your reply man, I'm making a appointment with a new pulmonary specialist tomorrow. Maybe when I see him he will have some pity on me and break there no controlled substance rule. Highly unlikely but you never know.
Thanks again
 
Lung disease would be a nightmare. Sucks man, unlucky.

Its the weed btw.

Anyway. Doctors are pathologically stingey with drugs. I think they would begrudge water to a person on fire of they thought their patient might enjoy it.
 
Doctors are too scared to prescribe anything addictive anymore. Its sad for people like you who truly need them. I hope it works out
 
I thought I'd share this. I'ts kind of embarressing but this some of what I'm going through...



Yesterday was the first interaction Ive really had with people in a long time. and I felt pretty good at first. Its awesome to have people listen.


Everything I said just keeps running through my head over and over. I cant make it stop. I realized trying to talk to someone had been a big mistake. I have learned to avoid anything that could agrevate my symptoms. I should have known better. I keep trying to tell myself just don't go back online your fine.

All right its been 5 days I think, I'm going to try to write This. Its difficult to even think about it but. I did a very stupid thing. It felt so good to finally talk to people. I don't know what I was thinking. There were so many people talking about things that theye were worried about. It felt like I could offer some reasurance. I can't believe I could be so stupid. I actually started giving people my opinion about there situation. These people had came to the forums with real serious problems looking for help. and I'm giving them my opinion. When I realized what I was doing I had the worst panic attack of 20 years. I was devestated. I've done everything I can to try not to think about it. But I realized If I was going to ever post this I had to explain why I can't bring myself to come back to the boards. I feel very bad about what I did and really don't know what the hell I was thinking.




I'ts been 4 or 5 days now I think. I cant ever keep track. I never sleep, It all just blures together. I keep thinking things I want to say over and over. I don't think I can go back to the boards I just can't make myself. but I'm thinking of putting this somewhere and maybe someone there would be willing to post it for me. I'm trying to evaluate my motivations for this. I know its not going to help me in anyway. I'm going to agonize over it and regrete it if I do. I don't think I'll be able to go online again. I don't see how this could posibly help anyone or anything. probably I think I just wan't someone to understand what I percieve to be a injustice. or maybe tell my story. or maybe i just want someone to feel bad for me. I don't know.


I finally got some sleep last night. I had awfull nightmares. I've never really had that problem before. I realize now how gratefull I should have been. I'm begining to relize I'm probably never posting this. all Ive done nonstop since going online is sit here writing and deleteing things over and over.


I can't believe its been 2 years since that day in texas. I was so convinced I couldn't take it one more day. If you told me it was going to be 2 more years like this and it was actually going to get worse I would't have believed you. And if I did I certainly would't have done it. no one would.


I keep realizing I'm crying and I didn't even know it. with my lungs and panic I gasp for breath. I keep yelling outloud and flinching violently from random paifull thoughts. I just sit here with my mind racing, rocking back and forth trying desperatly to stop invisioning my future. I keep seeing my poor mother in that bed desperatly trying to communicate something to me. The fear and the pain in her eyes. theres not a single food that tastes good. theres no tv show I want to watch. no music. no activity i could enjoy. I can't remmeber the last time I laughed.


Anxiety can't kill you. But at I'ts worst it can take away absolutly every single thing that brings you the least bit of happiness. And fill your life with fear and pain.


I'm sorry to be so deppressing. I wanted anyone who may be intrested to know what happened to me after I left the board and to try to explain things allitle better. I don't really understand what I'm doing lately. Its strange I feel confused like my thoughts are in another language. I wish I could talk to people. But i learned my lesson. I don't know what I'm going to do if I ever post this. I literally can not think of one thing to keep me occupied. That thought scares me.
 
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johnjames2222,

I too overthink things I want to say, things I did say, things i'm going to say..

But at the end of the day, the best conversations I had were the ones I let free flow. And honestly i tend to wing things to a fault. Trying to micromanage our outward expression is just wasted time.

This isn't middle school anymore; No one is perfect, but if you let people see your imperfections, they tend to actually be quite understanding and give you respect for being vulnerable.

Your anxiety may be debilitating, but I have hope that you will be able to overcome. You have a lot of insight, a lot of emotion, and a big heart. Please don't stop trying. Keep talking. Keep posting. Stay with us.
 
Hey man, we all post here hoping that other people give their opinions, that's the whole point. :) I'm quite sure no one thought anything of you giving your opinion to them, and they probably even appreciated it. You know, when I joined Bluelight, I was at a place where with some of the stuff going on in my life, I couldn't really talk to anyone in my life about it, and it was awful. I started talking to people here about it and it helped me so much to be able to communicate with like-minded people. It's easier than talking to people in real life, too, because they're not right in front of you. It may be difficult for you, but keep trying, you may find it to be a very healthy thing for you. Just know that no one is judging you here... you're judging yourself based on how you expect others are judging you. We'd love to hear what you have to say about things. :)
 
Have you ever tried any sleep med? Benzos work but they are a shit long term solution. I've had real success with mirtazepine. Just ask any doctor for it and they will give it as it's not abusable
 
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