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120/180mg Vyvanse + Weed - Little Experience - My Newfound Respect For Stimulants

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I've had a handful of experiences with several substances at this point. The first time I tried anything besides alcohol was in November, 2017. Ever since I've experienced multiple substances (Benzos, Psychedelics, MDMA, Ketamine, etc.), heroic doses and several weekend-long benders. I've become fairly moderate in my use (more so in terms of quantity, not frequency) in comparison to some of my friends. I learnt my respect for drugs after an amazing ~400mg+ nightlong MDMA roll which ended up in alternating profuse sweating/cold chills and nausea by the morning. Despite my developing record of consecutive days on drugs and heroic doses, something I've always tried avoiding engaging in stimulants as best I could, only trying out XR Ritalin capsules and Concerta on separate occasions (In low amounts, acquiring them from friends) to 'study'. I realised these experiences would foreshadow my situation today. Why, exactly? Mainly an inherent fear of enjoying them too much. This report states 2 different doses because I want to recount both my discovery of how stimulants can feel sensational AND horrible, as I learned today.

This year my previous fears were confirmed, and boy was I dead-on accurate in assumptions!

I received a Vyvanse prescription in January to aid in my studies. I don't have ADHD or any disorder which warranted the prescription, my psychiatrist just felt it'd give me a helping hand.

On the day I received my prescription I purchased my pills around 4pm and went home. Given I was home alone for the week, my curiosity took the best of me and I popped a 30mg pill down my throat. Some 30 minutes later effects began kicking in when I felt a lovely tingle crawl up my spine. I wanted more. I then took another. 30 minutes later, another two. I made sure to open the capsules, empty the powders (which I just licked off my desk) and replace the contents with crushed up generic pills I found in my cupboard since I knew my mother would likely check how many pills were in the container as soon as she returned. For reference, I'm a 5'9" / 125lbs / 18y/o male.

Sidenote: I'm aware Vyvanse is said to take ~1.5-2hours to kick in. In my experience, I begin feeling effects as soon as 30min after dosing. I also find that I can easily sleep on it after 4-6hrs, thankfully! The only negative side-effects I seem to experience are hunger suppression and crazy jaw clenching at doses of 90mg+.

Now for the chronology of my (first) experience in January, as I remember:

  • T- 16:00, initial 30mg dosed.
  • T- 16:30, small tingles up my spine. Gentle, pleasantly surprising feeling of very mild euphoria noticeable. 30mg redosed.
  • T- 17:00, listening to music (Underground techno, for those interested), if focusing on the beat more noticeable tingles would occasionally occur. Euphoria became more present, though not yet satisfactory to my standards. I now predicted what the effects must feel like at higher doses. All my knowledge of stimulants/amphetamines extended to no more than "it keeps you wide awake" since I never really bothered with doing my homework on it. 60mg redosed.
  • T- 18:00, still listening to music and now skyping some friends. Euphoric feelings quite noticeable. Tingles still persisted, now stronger and certainly pleasurable. I was really enjoying myself and looking forward to a session I'd host that night with 3 friends. Excited, energetic however clear-minded and composed. The drug felt really clean and comfortable as the come-up continued. My hands steadied (they gently quiver frequently) and I felt somewhat empowered. My charisma and fluidity in speech increased. I was rambling, talking fast and very enthusiastic about our discussions. Noticed I was sweating more than usual in the heat and my body odor became more prominent.
  • T- 20:00, only listening to music and forcing myself to eat some snacks. Now reaching the supposed peak from the first dose, all previous effects were considerably enhanced. I noticed my pupils slightly larger in the mirror and couldn't help but grin, being surprised and unsuspecting of this side effect. At this point I was really excited to have my friends over and tell them of how I felt so far.
  • T- 22:00, my friends arrived. We sat out in my backyard's porch under a pair of blacklight bulbs I installed. I really like to provide my friends with the best setting to relax in possible. We shared some cheese, bread, grapes and I drank a small glass of wine. Effects were now at the greatest for sure, though not terribly more prominent than an hour before. I was certainly satisfied with how high I felt. We quickly began rolling a few joints, which we'd smoke for the next 4-5hours. I noticed my jaw started to clench at this point. It was not as harsh as an MDMA gurn, though more persistent. My jaw's resting state became 'locked in place', though it didn't hurt much. I actually quite enjoyed the gurns.
  • T- 22:00-03:00, I sat, sunken, in a glowing beanbag. The blacklight and relaxing music were absolutely blissful to me. I couldn't help but continuously smile every time those (now quite strong) tingles frequently shot through my entire body. I felt extremely charismatic and loving towards my friends. Their company made me feel complete. Without much to worry about being bothered, we laughed, danced and chatted nonsense into the night. Surely, I was far more upbeat and cheery than those purely stoned but we remained on the same wavelength. I have to say, the weed really complemented the Vyvanse. I had took acid around a week prior and I imagine the stimulant significantly contributed to bringing out the visuals. It was quite dark because of the lighting and the bricks of my house seemed to have become fuzzy and spiked at the edges. The cushions and beanbags we sat on followed in similar fashion and, if I focused, would seem to gently let out a pulsing vibration with the music's beat. These intensified as we smoked more and more. I was quite content with the fact that I felt no sluggishness or tire from the weed, but only the body high combined with the vyvanse's. It was honestly one of the best sensation's I've felt on drugs. Extremely interesting and unique. I felt like going to a party but had no means. Dancing is something I love dearly and the combination of substances was sending sensational streaks of pumped energy through me as I did, to the point where as I sat back down after busting some moves the tingles actually stayed for good. Every breath I took felt like I was drawing great energies purely from the air itself, filling and pushing my cells outwards as they tried to return home though could not. Eventually my friends left and I retreated to my room, where I experienced my first real negative effects. Until then the mydriasis and sweating were inconvenient, at most.
  • T- 3:10, laying in bed and I put on Doctor Strange on my PC. Stoned as hell, still gurning continuously and filled with joy I figured the movie would be a nice way to enjoy the remaining visuals and drift into sleep. I didn't feel as if the vyvanse would stop the weed from knocking me out, fortunately. I can remember that as the movie played on the only lingering feeling was of total, pure satisfaction. Not happiness per se, nor 'bliss'. Just utterly pleased with how my night went so far. However, I did and still do want to see how it'll play out in a party scenario.
  • T- 3:50, Doctor Strange was still on. For the past 10minutes I felt my blood pressure increase for the first time, heart beating fast and hard. It grew uncomfortable and the anxiety set in rapidly. It was at this point where I thought "You fucked up big time". I took my phone out and frantically searched for any information on recreational Vyvanse doses. After a while, I found one post god knows where stating the user enjoyed 90-270mg doses. This relaxed me to some extent, though as my heart beat harder and harder the relief washed away. At this point I was quite nervous so I began some breathing exercises, watching the screen absent-mindedly as I focused on trying to avoid dying, as far as I was concerned. I imagine it was around this time was the scene where he is being thrown through the cosmos or whatever. That particular scene was the most psychedelic aspect of my night so far. Nervous, uncomfortable and having some shitty heat flashes (I get those whenever nervous, not so much because of the Vyvanse) run through my body instead of the pleasant tingles from before, I focused on the movie to try to calm my nerves and, well. Huh. My vision tunneled onto the monitor, catapulting my mind into the screen as the images folded and warped dramatically. Once this happened I oddly lost focus on my pumping heart and just let myself be absorbed into the scene for its seconds of duration. It did feel like quite a while, but I knew it was a short scene nonetheless. Once it ended, I suddenly gasped (forgetting to breathe, oopsie) and sat up with a jump. I was more impressed than anything with what the drugs just blessed me with, though I had quite enough of Doctor Strange's trippy adventure and ran a lukewarm shower.
  • T- 4:30, eventually my heart settled and my anxiety subsided completely. I felt warm and cozy in the air conditioned room, snuggled beneath my covers. Eventually I fell asleep.
  • T- ~11:00, I woke up feeling fine. No regrets from last night and I told my friends of how I ended it, laughing about how silly my anxiety was. Good fun overall.

I didn't take anymore Vyvanse in recreational settings after that until yesterday. Since the end of January I've been taking my 30mg at 10am during weekdays, ~12pm-4pm on Sundays and I absolutely love it. It ups my mood and I feel energised enough throughout the day. I try to sleep ~8hours, ideally, and nap in the afternoons frequently. Sundays I sleep just fine at around 9-11pm, waking up at 6am. I also found that (when I manage to) sleeping during the peak hours is extremely pleasant, where the tingles are very much existent and despite being in some sort of trance-esque state, I rest nicely in my naps. The only issues I had were with eating, so much so I lost ~4kg in 4-5days a few weeks back. I now counter this with hunger-inducing medication before meals, and I'm starting to put my weight back on. Hopefully it surpasses normal levels.


Edit: I should mention that two days prior to this second event I was out boshing MDA (2 or 3 small lines, dosage unknown) and smoking weed. I slept enough between the Vyvanse and MDA.


Now, about my second experience.
I'll try to be more concise since the first night was quite similar to my past one, only I did not smoke, so whatever effects provoked by the weed can be disconsidered. This one occurred last night. I saved up some pills over the weeks (only 4), with the intention of saving up this week to share an equal dose with a friend of mine at a party next Friday. I counted out how much I'd need for the same 120mg dose of last time, since I don't think 150mg or more would be much more enjoyable or even necessary for me, given my light weight (if anyone has any comment on this, I'd like to know any opinions if I should save a 5th pill for the party. The reason will be explained below. Please let me know if you think it'd be worth it!).

Figuring I had enough days of saving up to take 120mg both yesterday and Friday, I chose to have a fun night by myself. I first took a 30mg pill at 2:30pm to study during the afternoon but decided to take the whole day off instead and took extra 30mg 15min later. A few hours of me being in my room listening to music and playing videogames pass perfectly fine. Around 6pm a massive storm hit us and the power cut. My father, sister and I lit some candles around the house and returned to our own business. Around 7pm I figured I might as well take another 30mg pill, expecting to sleep around 2am. Time passes, all 3 pills taking effect. I shrugged the indecisiveness of taking another by telling myself "Am already here, might as well go all the way" and chose to crack extra 30mg open and sniff the powder (I'm fully aware it makes no difference to ingesting the drug, it's just a preference of administration). Cutting out 3 neat lines and snorting them made my nose sting a bit, so I poured some water in there and sniffed whatever I could into my throat. Jolly good. I honestly have no idea if this schedule of redosing is beneficiary or negative to the intensity of effects, but I felt as if all 120mg kicked in nicely and combined perfectly. Seemingly, I ended up with effects of 60mg from 3:30-7:00pm, 90mg from 7:30-9:30pm and all 120mg together until I slept in the morning.

Last night was a total blast. I tweaked out all night fiddling and making new candles out of string and wax from the molten ones. The power came back ~9:30, but I do quite enjoy candlelight so I stuck to it. I just zoomed around my room checking on the fires, pouring wax into empty candle containers, making new wicks to replace the burnt ones and keeping the whole boat afloat while frequently stopping to google recreational Vyvanse experiences (I was unsatisfied with what I found, hence I'm writing my first post on BlueLight!) masturbate (a lot, consecutively), smoke cigarettes or rollups (even more, consecutively) or sit and focus on the techno I was blasting. I alternated between laying on my bathroom floor for best acoustics, my mattress or sitting in my chair to make more candles. In terms of effects, it sums to the same tingles and euphoria from before. Just less socialising, obviously. I eventually hit my bed at around 5am, passing out without issues around two hour later after putting some calmer music on and masturbating/smoking a few more times. Great, great fun overall and no worries throughout the night!

Coming the morning I somehow woke up at 10am, groggy and stuffy-nosed from my aircon. I blew the mucus out and fell asleep again, needing to rest a bit more until 1pm. I woke up and after an hour of recomposing my tired and poorly-rested self I asked my mother to hand me a new pill (she controls the delivery of them to prevent me from abuse since both my parents know of my drug history) to study throughout Sunday. At around 2:30pm I took it and soon double-dosed with one of my stashed pills to combat the exhaustion, totalling 60mg. I was confident it was a good plan and fully prepared to slug through and stuff my face with books and ate a bowlful of chicken nuggets and drinking a lot of water (gotta stay hydrated, right?) to compensate for missing dinner yesterday and my drowsy state, but was stopped by what made me realise that this sort of abuse pattern isn't going to work out for me at all.

I noticed that seconds after taking the second pill my pupils dilated to around 3/4 the size of how they were the night before. I was confused and honestly somehow found it humorous, though grew somewhat concerned. Shrugging it off as nothing to be worried about (which I believe it really isn't, I'm not too sure at all about how stimulants cause mydriasis, and would also love to know how exactly Vyvanse does it! Anyone have an idea how long it remains afterwards? Need to know for next week, haha). I believe I felt effects begin as soon as 15min after ingestion, but I may be completely wrong and it was just false perception.

Chronology of Second Experience:

  • T- 14:45, 60mg dosed, pupils dilate immediately.
  • T- 15:00, showering, think effects are kicking in. Still a bit drowsy, glossy-eyed and stuffy-nosed from aircon.
  • T- 15:15, drying up in bathroom, definitely feeling effects kick in. Energy levels rising, mentally preparing to study.
  • T- 15:40, eating nuggets watching youtube, chest starts feeling a bit tight, mildly tougher to breathe. Worry and anxiety sweep me off my feet, thinking I fucked up big time with the double-dose. Mind starts racing and I search for any means of calming myself down. Heart beating harder and faster as expected. Sweating a bit, however it is quite hot anyways, so expected. Should've checked BlueLight at this point, but forgot about it.
  • T- 16:00, sat in chair. Same situation, failed to calm down with breathing exercises. Resort to google for information. Only found conflicting or unsatisfactory reports, none of a dose schedule similar to mine. Start rationalising my situation. "You survived a big dose of MDMA before, you're fine". "Vyvanse overdoses are reported as much higher". "Your body is tired as fuck, no wonder this happened. Just breathe". "You won't die from this, there are reports of much higher doses".
  • T- 16:30, watched some youtube to try calming my nerves. It helped a bit, though not enough. Decided to leave my room and walk around, visit my yard. Felt a bit better being in the open. After some minutes and a cigarette, I find my sister. Thankfully parents are not home to worry about. Casual conversation with sister calmed me down significantly.
  • T- 16:40, back in my room sat at desk. Watch some more youtube, at this point confident I'll be alright and just need to get used to the discomfort. Look in mirror, eyes look fine and this comforts me. Smoke a few rollups, feels pretty good. Anxiety subsiding quickly.
  • T- 17:00, lay in bed and put calm music on. Masturbate and smoke, anxiety successfully staved off once finished. Great job!
  • T- 17:30, heart feels normal, effects replaced with good energy levels and mild euphoria. Music contributes to good feelings successfully. Chain-smoking as per usual and I return to my computer to try finding more information on Vyvanse experiences.

This pretty much concludes this report. I want to state that I don't quite manage to express how the anxiety struggles were to the best extent. I think pointing out that at no moment I told myself "You're done for" is relevant. It didn't develop into any panic attacks because I've great experience with handling those, so now a days they're virtually impossible to occur, but this does not discredit how uncomfortable and concerned I felt. Searching online did just as much bad as good, considering posts ranged from "I've took up to XXXmg and was fine! Weighing under -my weight-!" to "I took Xmg, what do I do?! -- Go to the doctor immediately!" and of course my past drug experiences contributed to me believing I'd be alright, but not enough to kill my worries. Overall, I now leave this experience with some new notions in terms of dosage and how Vyvanse works and doubt I'll be pulling this pattern of use again. It could very much be that in a different time I do the same and no problems occur, though I don't quite want to discover if that'll be the case. Many thanks for reading! :)

Note:
- If the chest tightness mentioned above is a serious cause of concern, please let me know! I just ruled it mundane/expected so far because of some information I found online and the fact I've had a medical check up very recently, expressing no cardiac threats. Forgive my lack of information and irresponsibility for not researching stimulants more extensively, I certainly will sit down and make sure to do so before any decisions for the upcoming party I mention!
- This was written a week ago, I just did not have a favourable opportunity to post it until today.

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Crikey your psychiatrist is a bit of a shonk prescribing speed without any medical need lol. Lucky you though I guess :)

Interesting report. In terms of dose it seems like you've found a limit beyond which you just become anxious, so no point going over that really. Also as you can see it can quickly become dysfunctional having access to a drug like this, so in a way you're lucky it's made a little harder by having your Mum in charge of handing them out.

As for your heart, it's not unusual for it to feel like that on stimulants but it can certainly be disconcerting and you're right to at least be concerned in case of any underlying issue, even though you're probably fine.
 
Thanks for sharing, this was a good write-up. :) I have never had Vyvanse but I love Adderall.
 
I felt my psychiatrist to be irresponsible at first, but the benefits so far have dismantled that opinion. I'm really thankful she made it available to me as long as I keep my misuse to the absolute minimum.


I think I'll someday experiment a higher dose and see how I feel and slowly build from there until I find the "perfect" amount, or if I gain substantial weight and the 120mg feels weaker to me. Scaling out an open pill and adding that to whatever I take or the likes seems reasonable to me. I am very satisfied with the 120mg at the moment though!

And yeah, I by no means object to the system my mother established. Granted it's flawed in the sense where she doesn't observe me ingesting the pill so it's easy enough for me to stash it. I think it's even better that I find little encouragement in stashing them at all because I prefer the benefits it has on my concentration towards my studies over recreation, though I can't deny the feeling that I'd enjoy it more than MDMA at a rave/party/club, which is my currently preferred go-to for such things. I've little interest in taking, say, psychedelics to party.

But do you have any suggestions on how to keep discomfort at bay when using stims? Is it more of an arbitrary thing by any chance (given how my first time of 120mg involved some heart thumping but the second didn't at all)? Moreover, have you any knowledge about using cocaine before/during a Vyvanse roll? (I'm assuming the "during" option is a very, very, very, very bad idea haehaeh)
 
I'd be careful about increasing dose. I tend to find you're just on a hiding to nothing as you often can't intensify the feeling. And with stimulants there's a typical tendency to keep taking more trying to chase a high, and it ultimately causes addiction issues. I've taken up to 15 x 70mg capsules (1050mg) and not really noticed more than I get from 140mg, but the brain eggs you on to take more.

As for the heart, the only way to reduce the stimulation is to take less stimulants, basically. Most other things that help also block the effects you want. And I'd not mix with cocaine as they can block each other to some degree.
 
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