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Found a mushroom grow operation in the kid's room

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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Exactly. The parents need to law down the law and take control. Their house, their rules. They are letting the kid treat them like a doormat.
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Thanks for the big ups.

But I dont think this is an issue of parents being used as doormats. It could of started off that way? How can we know what's going on this kids head right.

Now you have the parents trying to profit of THEIR child's problem which I undoubtedly thini was caused by these parents somewhere down the road.

Again ALWAYS SMILE AND KEEP A THUMBS UP.
 
Kathilliana said:
We found a grow operation in our son's room. I have one question. Is it dangerous to use magic mushrooms that have been grown in a completely disgusting environment?

Our kid is challenged, and he is going to the psychiatrist in a couple of weeks to see if we can figure out what's going on with him. (He has Asperberger's.)

I just went into his room, which we try to stay out of, because it's so disgusting in there. I was looking for laundry baskets. I found dirty dishes, garbage everywhere, dirty laundry, and a grow operation in a not-hermetically sealed tub.

I have always understood that mushrooms need to be grown in a sterile environment or they were dangerous, if not deadly. Is there any truth to this? I want answers when we confront him.

Any help is appreciated. I tried googling, but couldn't come across anything about the dangers associated with growing them.
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they are fine probably but really he shouldn't be doing that shit in your house

you need to lay the law down and stop that shit. he needs boundaries.

where is the dad in all this? why cant an adult male make him clean his room? come on thats bullshit

years ago during the time when fresh shrooms were legal in uk for 2 years or something we ate old manky ones and had a terrible trip, with hindsight i would never do it again but all of us were fine

as for growing they can go mouldy/green which means dont eat them

but otherwise not really likely to go wrong.
 
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pofacedhoe said:
they are fine probably but really he shouldn't be doing that shit in your house

you need to lay the law down and stop that shit. he needs boundaries.

where is the dad in all this? why cant an adult male make him clean his room? come on thats bullshit

years ago during the time when fresh shrooms were legal in uk for 2 years or something we ate old manky ones and had a terrible trip, with hindsight i would never do it again but all of us were fine

as for growing they can go mouldy/green which means dont eat them

but otherwise not really likely to go wrong.
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Exactly. Also the parent(s) or guardians face prison time as well as having the kid taken away from them and either put into a juvenile detention centre, or put into foster care, if the kid or adults start dealing or someone finds out he is growing shrooms in the adults' home. People talk, and police do monitor correspondence online, social media, etc.

No it is probably not safe to eat the shrooms. Especially if they were grown in a place that is not clean, or very sterile. They may look good but moulds and bacteria can form and you wouldn't know this until after they are consumed.

This never happened to me when I ate dried shrooms, but I know many people who did get sick from them and the mushrooms looked fine.

I loved shrooms the few times I took them as an adult-I do not use any illegal drugs I just use caffeine-but if your kid has Aspbergers or Autism, and mental illnesses like panic/anxiety issues and depression he should not be tripping or using illegal drugs as these will make everything 1,000x worse for him. I mean your kid cannot even clean his room. He shouldn't be tripping or using drugs.
 
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NewFaceSameTripper said:
Man whatever lol. If you can contemplate how to cultivate drugs AND do it. You should have the IQ to wipe your own ass. Lmao.


The fact y'all are like it's okay he's creating drugs but let's be all nice about him being dirty.

Be A Parent. Fuck.
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Exactly. I am not sure how this teen manipulated his parents into permitting him not to do something basic like clean living quarters, and grow illegal drugs? The poor excuses for 'parents' need to start being adults and be responsible parents.

Get rid of the shrooms, tell your teen to get off his ass and clean his room or you will take away his mobile phone or stop paying for it completely, and that if he wants to use drugs he can wait until he is an adult and living on his own.
 
My impression is the "kid" is a young adult with asperger's, FYI. I agree it's a bad idea to let him grow in your house, as you'd be liable. The argument I was putting up is that not cleaning one's room is not a symptom of being a sociopath as someone suggested in here, nor does it necessarily indicate bad parents. When I was a kid, my room was a disaster area that would become so again after I cleaned it when my mom finally made me do it. When I got older I figured it out eventually, basically when I moved out and lived on my own that process began. It took time but my house is neat and clean finally now (I'm in my mid thirties and the process of improvement continued into my thirties), and I have always been a good person with a lot to offer people, who was well-adjusted other than living with a mess. Of course I also am a developmentally normal person. I don't think it's very nice to harshly judge someone for having difficulty raising a well-adjusted person on the autism spectrum. But I do agree that you guys need to probably lay down the law and set some expectations, if you want him to be able to grow in life.
 
FFS, mushrooms grow in the most unsterile of environments all the time - i.e. outside.
 
Priest I think you are overreacting or you don't have any self-control or maybe.. a sad childhood, if you had it isn't anyone fault taking down the ladder would be better for you too, if you haven't had any freedom again isn't anyone fault. As far as looking at your kid, miss/mrs or mam and your name would be?... Okay. Shrooms like weed isn't a drug.

I think you should allow him to grow shrooms because they have potentinal for being open-minded, free, accepted & see beyond everything. If you want to learn more about drug education our community it's your best choice ( Suggestion > Psyhedelic Medicine and other subforums of ours, we are a harm reduction community and we want the best for everyone). They treat numerous diseases and isn't a party drug as far as myself take a peak at, your trip it's meant to be in a controlled space and it's used mostly for rituals, meditation and connecting with your higher-self with peaceful sounds. IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY KIND OF HARM.

Be happy that your son/daughter it's inclinated towards shrooms because there are other real drugs that could cause real fuckin harm ( oxy, H, Ice aka Meth, Slide, etc). My advice would actually be to leave him be, don't think about stupid stuffs like dealing or things like that because your kid isn't doing any of these and let's say he/she would? Do you know that people who earn their $ on illegal ways are living far better than people who live by society rules? nothing new in most people eyes sure. Do you know that whatever it's legal it's killing you and what it's illegal it's healing you? Not all of them but 98% I say they heal.

Last words to end.. educate yourself, mam. Your kid it's doing a great job and If it were my kid I would help him.

regards,

Winter
 
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Shady's Fox said:
Priest I think you are overreacting or you don't have any self-control or maybe.. a sad childhood, if you had it isn't anyone fault taking down the ladder would be better for you too, if you haven't had any freedom again isn't anyone fault. As far as looking at your kid, miss/mrs or mam and your name would be?... Okay. Shrooms like weed isn't a drug.

I think you should allow him to grow shrooms because they have potentinal for being open-minded, free, accepted & see beyond everything. If you want to learn more about drug education our community it's your best choice ( Suggestion > Psyhedelic Medicine and other subforums of ours, we are a harm reduction community and we want the best for everyone). They treat numerous diseases and isn't a party drug as far as myself take a peak at, your trip it's meant to be in a controlled space and it's used mostly for rituals, meditation and connecting with your higher-self with peaceful sounds. IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY KIND OF HARM.

Be happy that your son/daughter it's inclinated towards shrooms because there are other real drugs that could cause real fuckin harm ( oxy, H, Ice aka Meth, Slide, etc). My advice would actually be to leave him be, don't think about stupid stuffs like dealing or things like that because your kid isn't doing any of these and let's say he/she would? Do you know that people who earn their $ on illegal ways are living far better than people who live by society rules? nothing new in most people eyes sure. Do you know that whatever it's legal it's killing you and what it's illegal it's healing you? Not all of them but 98% I say they heal.

Last words to end.. educate yourself, mam. Your kid it's doing a great job and If it were my kid I would help him.

regards,

Winter
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LOL project much? Put down the bong. Mushrooms are a drug just like cannabis/hash is, and all the rest. Since this kid or teen has depression, anxiety, and Asperger's or some type of Autism should not be tripping or self medicating with psychedelics as they will only make his issues 1,000X worse. Yes there are 'worse' drugs like hard drugs such as coke, opiates/heroin/dope, meth, and research chemicals but many people have had bad trips and experiences on mushrooms, and self medicating Autism and mental illnesses is never a good idea.

I had a wonderful childhood, a fun adolescence/teenage years, and I have great self control. As a teen and young adult I used soft drugs like hash/cannabis, mushrooms, and LSD on occasion as a teenager and young adult. However I never grew drugs in my parents' home, was extremely discreet, respected their wishes, and never was arrested, and I no longer use drugs, and I do not have Asperger's, any type of Autism, or mental illness.

People have had their children taken away from them and have been sent to prison for growing illegal drugs at home. Also depending upon the amount, weight, and other factors I have seen people get charged with not only possession and cultivation; but also drug dealing, even if they had never sold any mushrooms at all. I wish they were legal in most countries; but the fact is that they are not, and it is best to be discreet and use caution.

Also child services or social services really do not want some mentally ill or disabled kid with Autism or Asperger's in a home where drugs are growing, being used/sold, etc.
 
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NewFaceSameTripper said:
Man whatever lol. If you can contemplate how to cultivate drugs AND do it. You should have the IQ to wipe your own ass. Lmao.


The fact y'all are like it's okay he's creating drugs but let's be all nice about him being dirty.

Be A Parent. Fuck.
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Exactly. Letting your mentally ill kid with Autism/Aspberger's grow mushrooms in your home and keep his room a disgusting mess is not being a parent or caring for your kid or teen.
 
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nuube said:
This advice is good ^^^^ permissive parents are not what young people need, (and yeah call me a Nazi or whatever - I watched my mates who had permissive parents end up in jail or in and out of rehab while I who had fuckers of parents that kept a good hold on me, although allowing me increasing freedoms as I could manage them even with my fucking about, and ended up with a career and family). I watch permissive parents now and their kids are drinking from early teens and causing havoc as their parents fail to reign them in. The stats will show that those drinking earlier fall into addiction and other issues much more easily than those who had a proper, (yeah I said proper, get over it), upbringing with limits and punishments for passing those limits.


The issue here is not the dirty conditions mushrooms are grown in - they grow in shite for godsakes. Also look in your cupboard, have you rice, vegetables? Guess what they are grown in? They spread cow manure over grass for it to grow better and cows eat this shit sprayed grass and you drink their milk.

The issue is your son. I seemed to have missed what age he is there is a difference if he is 13 or 23 however you do say he is suffering with depression combined with severe anxiety. You also go on to say:

He's become extremely defiant and hostile when we even attempt to have a discussion with him about his future. We're so far away from a clean room it's ridiculous. His meltdowns are out of control, loud and destructive - he loves to break things, and he's very good at it. I made this psychiatrist appointment back in December. I called about a dozen before I gave up and realized I wasn't going to get an appointment sooner than 12 weeks. We are anxiously awaiting this; he is in desperate need of help.

Is it me or should a person suffering like this not be habitually using psychedelics - if one trip doesn't rectify his issues 20 aren't. He needs to address what ever the issues are that are causing his problems not sit tripping in his parents house. I am in no way judging anyone. I think this family needs proper advice and support not a focus on the shrooms - they are another symptom of a deep seated problem that is not going to get better even if his cupboard becomes a sterile environment.

Drug free would be the first approach I'd look to be taking. Building up a trusting relationship will not be facilitated by allowing activities that will at this time be harmful and counter-productive. I think maybe look at some family type therapy where you can all see someone and speak - many psychiatrists think that because they can help a single person at a time that they can work with their family - they can't. Family therapy is a very specialist therapy and MUST be conducted by a proper therapist.

There is help out there for you, but not I fear on a drug harm reduction site. Good luck and lots of love and good vibes going your way. I hope you all get relief soon.
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I agree with all of this.
 
Shady's Fox said:
Priest I think you are overreacting or you don't have any self-control or maybe.. a sad childhood, if you had it isn't anyone fault taking down the ladder would be better for you too, if you haven't had any freedom again isn't anyone fault. As far as looking at your kid, miss/mrs or mam and your name would be?... Okay. Shrooms like weed isn't a drug.

I think you should allow him to grow shrooms because they have potentinal for being open-minded, free, accepted & see beyond everything. If you want to learn more about drug education our community it's your best choice ( Suggestion > Psyhedelic Medicine and other subforums of ours, we are a harm reduction community and we want the best for everyone). They treat numerous diseases and isn't a party drug as far as myself take a peak at, your trip it's meant to be in a controlled space and it's used mostly for rituals, meditation and connecting with your higher-self with peaceful sounds. IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY KIND OF HARM.

Be happy that your son/daughter it's inclinated towards shrooms because there are other real drugs that could cause real fuckin harm ( oxy, H, Ice aka Meth, Slide, etc). My advice would actually be to leave him be, don't think about stupid stuffs like dealing or things like that because your kid isn't doing any of these and let's say he/she would? Do you know that people who earn their $ on illegal ways are living far better than people who live by society rules? nothing new in most people eyes sure. Do you know that whatever it's legal it's killing you and what it's illegal it's healing you? Not all of them but 98% I say they heal.

Last words to end.. educate yourself, mam. Your kid it's doing a great job and If it were my kid I would help him.

regards,

Winter
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Wow great harm reduction advice...

Regardless of whether ADULTS with asperger's/autism should take a psychedelic or not, this isn't the time or place. They need to concentrate on being PARENTS not friends/drug buddies, and getting their kid counseling. I can see why they had a hard time on the other website.
 
Yikes same here. More so the fact that the most "logical" comments so far have even neglected to address this completely inappropriate sign of parental idiocy. This is why drugs have a bad name.
 
nuttynutskin said:
This worries me.
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Yikes same here. More so the fact that even the most "logical" responses so far have neglected to address this completely inappropriate sign of parental incompetence. Mental health is a serious issue and seems to be shoved under the carpet in the name of open minded obliviousness. Almost seems like a staged thread. This is why drugs have a bad name. Especially psychedelics.
 
Mang just let him do his thing.
Or lace that shit with pcpto scare him away idk.
You do whatever you feel is good, but if he wants to do shrooms he is going to do so.
 
Shadowmeister said:
My impression is the "kid" is a young adult with asperger's, FYI. I agree it's a bad idea to let him grow in your house, as you'd be liable. The argument I was putting up is that not cleaning one's room is not a symptom of being a sociopath as someone suggested in here, nor does it necessarily indicate bad parents. When I was a kid, my room was a disaster area that would become so again after I cleaned it when my mom finally made me do it. When I got older I figured it out eventually, basically when I moved out and lived on my own that process began. It took time but my house is neat and clean finally now (I'm in my mid thirties and the process of improvement continued into my thirties), and I have always been a good person with a lot to offer people, who was well-adjusted other than living with a mess. Of course I also am a developmentally normal person. I don't think it's very nice to harshly judge someone for having difficulty raising a well-adjusted person on the autism spectrum. But I do agree that you guys need to probably lay down the law and set some expectations, if you want him to be able to grow in life.
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I didnt say the kid is a sociopath..

Okay let me put it to you this way. If you live in a room with piss bottles and stinky clothes etc.. This person is gonna be BEGIN to think this is normal behavior. THAT IS A PROBLEM. Be a parent a find him help. That's all I was saying.

"The whole idea that after a certain age its no longer the parents fault is utter bullshit. You did did that.. it's not like once they turn 18 it's not your fault, no it's your fucking fault:" Doug Stanhope.

You're not raising the kid, you're raising the adult they are going to be. Time does not stop. These parents are inevitably going to die (just like everyone here) and this kid is going to be alone.

I apologize to OP if you personally feel hurt by my posts. I hope you do whatever you can to help your child.
 
Bitchniggaz said:
Mang just let him do his thing.
Or lace that shit with pcpto scare him away idk.
You do whatever you feel is good, but if he wants to do shrooms he is going to do so.
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No no dont lace his drugs.. I get what your trying to but that but no that will only make matters worse.

2nd statement about do whatever you think is good. Plenty of pedophiles think molesting children "feels" good.

BUY YES. If he wants to do shrooms he will find them whether his parents remove his gow or not.
 
I think without twisted thoughts.. this thread it's staged as someone said. Purpose?

we don't know nor want to find out

whatever you want to do with your kid it's your choice

you got him out of ur fuckin cunt not us. The thread should be closed under these conventions & applies.

regards,

w
 
Ah, the internet... everyone has an opinion, whether it is drug definitions or parenting. ;)

I will just add that skimming through the thread I see someone claiming mushrooms and weed are not drugs - this is a harmful and inaccurate idea which should be discouraged.
 
NewFaceSameTripper said:
No no dont lace his drugs.. I get what your trying to but that but no that will only make matters worse.

2nd statement about do whatever you think is good. Plenty of pedophiles think molesting children "feels" good.

BUY YES. If he wants to do shrooms he will find them whether his parents remove his gow or not.
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Lucky for me this Is not a pedo asking if he should finger some poor child.
If that was the case i would probably give a different advice.

My point was that there is no real one solution to this situation.
If he just takes the box away the kid might buy some bad stuff somehow.
Or if he keeps the box and the kid trips and does something stupid..

Personally i would be glad if my kid wanted to growth shrooms instead of whatever teens do.
All the legal bs aside most risks can be minimised with set & setting etc.
 
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