Information about users
Me: 23 years old male. 110 kg (mostly fat), shitty lifestyle (no sport activities, junk food). I don't taking any medication. I used to have heart murmur, but doctor said it's gone when I was 20.
My friend: 23 years old male, 65 kg (skinny), average european lifestyle, he doesn't take any medication. No health issues. He doesn't take any supplements (no NAC).
Drug description
500 mg MDMA, tested with Marquis, Mecke and Mandelin. All 3 tests positive for MDMA. Marquis turned to black instantly, no noticable dark purple colour during the test.
RoA: orally
Appearance: yellow/tan coloured rock crushed to fine powder and encapsulated prior to the event.
NAC dosage regimen & other drugs prior to roll
Me: I've been taking NAC (500-700mg daily) since 7.1.2019 - 27.2.2019 except 22.2.2019 (I simply forgot to take it). My last NAC dose was exactly 51 hours before my roll (I use Daylio to monitor my drug and supplement use).
I also smoke weed every Thursday, usually 0.15-0.20 g.
No alcohol since 1.1.2019 (only 1 beer).
3 years MDMA experience. Average 4 times a year. Usual dosage regimen: 120 + 80 mg 30 mins after peak.
Smoking since 2016, average 10 cigs / day. 20 cigs during an event.
My friend: No experience with illicit drugs except weed. No alcohol or cigs before the roll.
The day of the roll
2.3.2019. I wasn't really doing anything productive that day, watching Netflix, playing games and preparing everything for the evening. I ate 2 bannanas for breakfast, kebab for lunch (12:00) and 2 bannanas again for dinner (18:00). At 19:30 my 2 friends (let's call them H and M) arrived and we went to a pub before the club opens.
20:00-22:00 We were in a pub talking about school, politics and other smart topics. I didn't drink any alcohol, just water.
At the club
Shortly after 22:00 we walked to a club which was about 3 kilometers away.
22:45 We are at the club trying to get as close as possible to a stage to see the headliner - Paul Kalkbrenner.
23:00 Paul Kalkbrenner starts playing, I'm with my 2 friends in the front. I should also mention that temperature is above 30?C +, guys from security are smart and open doors every 15 mins for a 1 minute to get us some fresh air.
23:30 [T=0] I go to a bathroom to prepare initial dose for me and my friend H, our frind M doesn't want to roll. It's H's first time, so his dose is 100 mg, mine is 120 mg.
0:15 [T=45] I'm starting to feel it. Comeup is very smooth.
0:30 [T=60] I'm at the peak.
Effects: Jaw clenching. Lack of appetite. Music sounds slightly enhanced. Can't see text on my phone / lighter when trying to light up a cigarette. Anxiety is gone. Greater self-confidence. Pupils are dilated. I can dance much more easily. Slightly increased empathy. No noticable increase in intensity of the sense of touch (shit, I miss this so much). Strong need to talk wit girls (any kind of social interaction with girls always make my roll better).
My friend felt "happy" but not euphoric. Music sounds amazing. No anxiety. He can dance more easily. Slight increase in empathy. Pupils are dilated but he has them dilated even when he's sober. No info about intensity of sense of touch, close range vision or confidence. He also mentioned that he doesn't want to talk, just want to dance and listen to music. No visible jaw clenching.
1:00 [T=90] I go to bathroom again to redose (80 mg). H doesn't want to redose. He continues to dance and I go smoking and chatting with random people upstairs.
1:30 [T=120] I'm back on the dancefloor with my friend.
2:00 [T=150] Kalkbrenner plays last song, Another DJ takes his place and continue with mainstream techno.
2:45 [T=195] We are leaving the club because other friends invited us to a different club.
3:10 [T=220] We are in the club 2, chatting with friends in a chill-out zone.
4:00 [T=270] Dancing to some heavy techno with our group in a space with no windows and no lights. This is the time when I start coming down. At this point I have no euphoria, music sounds normal. I don't feel like I want to dance. Empathy is back to normal.
4:30 [T=300] Our friend, let's call him R, puts 3 lines of his MDMA on his phone. Then he asks me and H if we want some MDMA. I said it won't have any effect. "Are you pussy?", he asked. Ofc I'm not. So I snort +- 100 mg of MDMA. My friends, H and R, too. As expected, it did nothing for all of us. If anything, it made me feel even worse. Jaw clenching is worse, I feel like shit, I just want to go home.
5:30 [T=360] I'm leaving the club. I don't feel good. H stays in the club with the group.
6:30 [T=420] I'm finally at my place taking a shower and eating last 2 bannanas.
7:00 [T=450] 6 hours sleep.
The next day I felt usual emotional instability - sad, happy, then sad again. Talking to imaginary girl I met at the club, pretending that I had sex with her last night. Then I realized that it's pathetic so I started watching Netflix instead.
I write this 2 days after the event and I'm back to normal.
My friend H still feels good, probably afterglow because it was his first time.
Did NAC enhanced my roll/brought magic back?
I don't think so. Comeup is always smooth for me. MDMA high didn't feel enhanced in any way. Comedown is always just one day for me but this time I took 300 mg during the sesh so it's possible that NAC helped me to reduce the impact of the comedown part. My worse comedown was from 400 mg (200+100+100) in one sesh and comedown lasted for 2 days. But today I feel pretty much normal after 300 mg.
Thanks for reading this and excuse my english, please.
For people who don't know about NAC dosage regimen - Here's the original topic on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/comments/88jqg2/nacetyl_cysteine_nac_and_its_probable_mdma_loss/
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Me: 23 years old male. 110 kg (mostly fat), shitty lifestyle (no sport activities, junk food). I don't taking any medication. I used to have heart murmur, but doctor said it's gone when I was 20.
My friend: 23 years old male, 65 kg (skinny), average european lifestyle, he doesn't take any medication. No health issues. He doesn't take any supplements (no NAC).
Drug description
500 mg MDMA, tested with Marquis, Mecke and Mandelin. All 3 tests positive for MDMA. Marquis turned to black instantly, no noticable dark purple colour during the test.
RoA: orally
Appearance: yellow/tan coloured rock crushed to fine powder and encapsulated prior to the event.
NAC dosage regimen & other drugs prior to roll
Me: I've been taking NAC (500-700mg daily) since 7.1.2019 - 27.2.2019 except 22.2.2019 (I simply forgot to take it). My last NAC dose was exactly 51 hours before my roll (I use Daylio to monitor my drug and supplement use).
I also smoke weed every Thursday, usually 0.15-0.20 g.
No alcohol since 1.1.2019 (only 1 beer).
3 years MDMA experience. Average 4 times a year. Usual dosage regimen: 120 + 80 mg 30 mins after peak.
Smoking since 2016, average 10 cigs / day. 20 cigs during an event.
My friend: No experience with illicit drugs except weed. No alcohol or cigs before the roll.
The day of the roll
2.3.2019. I wasn't really doing anything productive that day, watching Netflix, playing games and preparing everything for the evening. I ate 2 bannanas for breakfast, kebab for lunch (12:00) and 2 bannanas again for dinner (18:00). At 19:30 my 2 friends (let's call them H and M) arrived and we went to a pub before the club opens.
20:00-22:00 We were in a pub talking about school, politics and other smart topics. I didn't drink any alcohol, just water.
At the club
Shortly after 22:00 we walked to a club which was about 3 kilometers away.
22:45 We are at the club trying to get as close as possible to a stage to see the headliner - Paul Kalkbrenner.
23:00 Paul Kalkbrenner starts playing, I'm with my 2 friends in the front. I should also mention that temperature is above 30?C +, guys from security are smart and open doors every 15 mins for a 1 minute to get us some fresh air.
23:30 [T=0] I go to a bathroom to prepare initial dose for me and my friend H, our frind M doesn't want to roll. It's H's first time, so his dose is 100 mg, mine is 120 mg.
0:15 [T=45] I'm starting to feel it. Comeup is very smooth.
0:30 [T=60] I'm at the peak.
Effects: Jaw clenching. Lack of appetite. Music sounds slightly enhanced. Can't see text on my phone / lighter when trying to light up a cigarette. Anxiety is gone. Greater self-confidence. Pupils are dilated. I can dance much more easily. Slightly increased empathy. No noticable increase in intensity of the sense of touch (shit, I miss this so much). Strong need to talk wit girls (any kind of social interaction with girls always make my roll better).
My friend felt "happy" but not euphoric. Music sounds amazing. No anxiety. He can dance more easily. Slight increase in empathy. Pupils are dilated but he has them dilated even when he's sober. No info about intensity of sense of touch, close range vision or confidence. He also mentioned that he doesn't want to talk, just want to dance and listen to music. No visible jaw clenching.
1:00 [T=90] I go to bathroom again to redose (80 mg). H doesn't want to redose. He continues to dance and I go smoking and chatting with random people upstairs.
1:30 [T=120] I'm back on the dancefloor with my friend.
2:00 [T=150] Kalkbrenner plays last song, Another DJ takes his place and continue with mainstream techno.
2:45 [T=195] We are leaving the club because other friends invited us to a different club.
3:10 [T=220] We are in the club 2, chatting with friends in a chill-out zone.
4:00 [T=270] Dancing to some heavy techno with our group in a space with no windows and no lights. This is the time when I start coming down. At this point I have no euphoria, music sounds normal. I don't feel like I want to dance. Empathy is back to normal.
4:30 [T=300] Our friend, let's call him R, puts 3 lines of his MDMA on his phone. Then he asks me and H if we want some MDMA. I said it won't have any effect. "Are you pussy?", he asked. Ofc I'm not. So I snort +- 100 mg of MDMA. My friends, H and R, too. As expected, it did nothing for all of us. If anything, it made me feel even worse. Jaw clenching is worse, I feel like shit, I just want to go home.
5:30 [T=360] I'm leaving the club. I don't feel good. H stays in the club with the group.
6:30 [T=420] I'm finally at my place taking a shower and eating last 2 bannanas.
7:00 [T=450] 6 hours sleep.
The next day I felt usual emotional instability - sad, happy, then sad again. Talking to imaginary girl I met at the club, pretending that I had sex with her last night. Then I realized that it's pathetic so I started watching Netflix instead.
I write this 2 days after the event and I'm back to normal.
My friend H still feels good, probably afterglow because it was his first time.
Did NAC enhanced my roll/brought magic back?
I don't think so. Comeup is always smooth for me. MDMA high didn't feel enhanced in any way. Comedown is always just one day for me but this time I took 300 mg during the sesh so it's possible that NAC helped me to reduce the impact of the comedown part. My worse comedown was from 400 mg (200+100+100) in one sesh and comedown lasted for 2 days. But today I feel pretty much normal after 300 mg.
Thanks for reading this and excuse my english, please.
For people who don't know about NAC dosage regimen - Here's the original topic on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/comments/88jqg2/nacetyl_cysteine_nac_and_its_probable_mdma_loss/
Tagged by Xorkoth
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substancecode_empathogens
substancecode_nacetylcysteine
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