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Morphine questions...

hmuwts

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Hey, SWIM will most likely get his hands on some morphine soon and is wondering how it'll affect him with mid-long term use.

He is expecting something like 400-700mg in total and has no tolerance right now.

How much Morphine should be used to provide a decent high and how much is dangerous?

What is the best way of ingestion? He does not want to IV or go through any extraction method. He has heard you can smoke it.. how would he do that do that?
 
Hey, SWIM will most likely get his hands on some morphine soon and is wondering how it'll affect him with mid-long term use.

He is expecting something like 400-700mg in total and has no tolerance right now.

How much Morphine should be used to provide a decent high and how much is dangerous?

What is the best way of ingestion? He does not want to IV or go through any extraction method. He has heard you can smoke it.. how would he do that do that?


Hey,

Well SWIM has quite a bit of experience with morphine, so he'll try to help.
What form is the morphine (Tablets, a sulfate or hydrochloride salt, freebase, solution)?

SWIM has found that, when taken orally, a very low dose is all that is needed to feel blissful and content for hours, and a high dose doesn't really make it any better.
Morphine has a very low bioavailability when taken orally, so using this route, SWIY will not get a rush as SWIY might with oral codeine, or morphine taken by another method.
However, when taken orally, it lasts a long time. SWIM has taken 10mg and still felt high for days after.
It will cause SWIY quite a bit of nausea though.
SWIM once took about 40mg orally, to see if it would be any better, and the high was only marginally better, however he was nauseous and shaky for the whole next day, he just lay still in the darkness for hours until it passed. Lol
So his advice is, if SWIY is taking it orally, stick with 10mg - 20mg, any higher will just waste your morphine and it won't do much good.

SWIM has found that taking morphine for a couple of days in succession doesn't do any harm, and SWIY won't feel any withdrawal symptoms, certainly not at those doses lol.

It is not addictive when taken orally either, atleast not to SWIM. He finds almost any other drug more addictive (although other routes of administration will increase the addiction potential considerably)

In terms of how it'll affect SWIY with mid-long term use, morphine (and other opiates including heroin) are some of the safest drugs imaginable, however due to their high addiction potential, a lot of people interpret this to mean that the drug is harmful, but it is not, it is simply the person who uses it irresponsibly (of course, they can contain impurities, but pure opiates are safe)
There was a case where a doctor (don't quote SWIM on the exact details) had begun stealing morphine from the hospital when he began working there in his twenties, and he became dependent on it, and used morphine every day for the next 60 years of his life or something.
He then got some tests, and no one could find any signs of damage to his body caused by his morphine use, and this is an example of VERY heavy and long term use, yet it did him no harm, because it was pure pharmaceutical morphine.


Well, for a morphine salt (typically found in solution or tablets) such as morphine hydrochloride or sulfate, SWIY cannot smoke it without first converting it to freebase form.
This is an easyish procedure though, it basically involves heating the morphine salt (finely powdered) with a base such as sodium carbonate (this is probably the safest one, others use ammonia or sodium hydroxide, but both of those can give off toxic vapors, ammonia gas, and sodium hydroxide gas, respectively, when heated. Some people would argue about "sodium hydroxide gas" but yes, it does boil at a low temperature)

This process forms sodium sulfate or sodium chloride, mixed with freebase morphine.
SWIY can then heat this mixture, without any need to purify it first, and only the morphine freebase will vaporise, and SWIY can chase the dragon!
SWIY can look up the procedure used to make crack cocaine with sodium carbonate, it is basically the same.

If SWIY has tablets, and they are MSContin, they probably contain waxes, so SWIY will have to first finely powder the tablet and use water to extract the morphine salt, to seperate it from the waxes, and then carry out the above procedure.

It isn't really a complex process though.

Probably the easiest (no chemistry required), safest (no chance of inhaling toxic vapors), and most effective route of administration would be rectally
This has a much better bioavailability that oral, yet it is much safer than injection, and it can be done with a morphine salt that you might find in tablets or solution.
In fact, it MUST be done with a morphine salt, the same goes for oral administration, the freebase form would work orally but it would come on very slowly as it is not easily absorbed.
Freebase morphine would not really work rectally as SWIY usually have to dissolve it in water first, and freebase is insoluble.

So, to summarize, if SWIY has freebase morphine (unlikely, it is mostly sold in salt form), it is ideal for smoking, but it cannot be used for rectal, IV, SC, IM. It can be taken orally but it is not ideal.

If SWIY has a morphine salt, it is ideal for oral, rectal, IV, SC, IM use, but not for smoking.


If SWIY does have a freebase, and wants to convert it to a salt for rectal or oral administration, this can be done quite easily by dissolving it in a solution of acid, such as citric acid, and drinking or plugging that solution. He shouldn't use a strong mineral acid unless SWIY is going to purify it to remove the excess acid afterwards! Lol

The reason SWIY cannot smoke a morphine salt, is that it will decompose before it vaporises, resulting in some other odd compounds without the desired effects.

Hope this helps
 
I dont know how yall get good effects from such a low dose of oral morphine.even without tolerance i would take 60-100 mg+ to feel a good effect.now im on morphine maintainance and get 500 mg/day prescribed and it sure gets me high but to be fucked up i need up to 900 mg.Friends of mine who dont do opiates often also need 100mg to be seriously high and 60 mg for a moderate effect.
 
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