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Random Which serial killers or true crimes intrigue you?

Fuck yeah!
Especially the ones that made music.
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I recently found out that I lived on the same street as the Claremont serial killer in Western Australia.


I listened to several podcasts on that story and felt like there were massive errors all over the place that could have saved some lives. I do enjoy true crime podcasts, and mysteries and thrillers in general. In the United States, there is the 'Highway to Hell' --- the working theory that there are something like 20ish active serial killers operating as long haul truckers across state lines, where territorial pissings by police guarantee that these women will never find justice. I'm not attracted to serial killers in general, and I find the lady admirers of serial killers a bit horrifying and malignant, like a tumor. I'm more interested in the procedural mechanisms. So often it's one tiny little thing that catches these people, a shoelace, someone noticing a ding on your car door, etc. I don't want to say it's made me more paranoid, but I am much more intentional about checking in with my friends, with being picky about taxis, things like that. Surprisingly most of the true crime I listen to is from Australia. Between books and podcasts I'd say I listen to or read about one murder mystery a day.
 
Yes, Ann Rule wrote the book about Ted Bundy. She worked with him and was fooled, as were others, by his charismatic persona.

To me, he is the epitome of the evil that lurks within all serial killers. I've always been intrigued by accounts that describe these total psychopath types. I wonder how, why, when did they become the monsters they are.

Find it interesting that when one of these killers is found out, initial interviews of people who knew them say things like, "He/she was a nice person. So polite, friendly, kept to themselves, kinda quiet." But then, as an aside, they'll say something like, " Well, he/she did have a habit of baying naked in the back yard for hours when there was a full moon ..." or "He/she had that thing where their eyes rolled back in their head whenever anybody said the word 'spinach', but other than that I never noticed anything strange."

Bottom line, folks, there's always a clue. So beware.

Btw, Ann Rule died a couple of years ago. Really miss her true crime novels. She was brilliant.
 
Ed Kemper was also pretty boss, close second between Ted (Theodore) Bundy & Jeffery Dahmer.
Ted's lawyer wrote a book disclosing some of Ted's deepest secrets, including that his body count was over 100 people. His first was said to be a male as well.
 
My favorite serial killer is Ted Bundy. Watch his last interview. He seriously blames his violent urge to brutally sodomise corpses on porn. :|

He didnt blame porn; he was inflating his ego by trying to manipulate via the media. Being a pathological liar and malignant narcissist his delight in his own manipulations were just beyond what anyone can grasp - he was getting off on trying to manipulate and it was no doubt a joke to him.

He would have made such a great President ;)

Yeah, I can wrap my head around to understand the motivation for many deviant behaviours, on some level, bar necrophilia and the sexual obsession with cadaver parts. I guess the nearest understanding is that psychopathic serial killers are actually 'in-love' with possession and total dominion over others - so much so, that their victims HAVE to be lifeless and cut into pieces for them to feel any semblence of connection toward them. They literally have to disassemble their object of desire to feel any kind of satisfaction. Sounds exhausting.

Anyhoo, I had a childhood obsession with Jeffrey Dahmer. ( I was always a weird kid).
This interview with Stone Philips is beyond insane - it's actually surreally comical (David Lynch could have conjured it).
Dahmers father actually unnerved me more than he, such a blunted affect and disconnection from his son as a kid - can only speculate how much this impacted Dahmer's behaviour as an adult, despite any neurological traits of psychopathy.





On a serious note, the families of the victims must have gone through hell with this irreverence. Cannot imagine.:/
 
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Yeah, I watched that a few years back. Dahmer doesn't seem like a violent necrophile. :\

I like when he talks about the box with the head in it. Man... 8o Crazy shit, I'm gonna watch that interview again. Cheers for reminding me.

The film "Dahmer" is very good too iirc.

I was really into serial killers when I was young. They just seem so different. I cannot imagine living that life, imagine keeping that secret. :|

BTK is an interesting one. He just couldn't resist taunting the police.
 
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He doesn't exactly fall into the category of 'serial killer' but I found the story of Richard 'Iceman' Kuklinski really interesting.

He worked as a contract killer for the five families in NYC.
 
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^ Book could be good. It is an interesting story.

Tried watching the doc about him twice and his braggadocious personality just irritated the hell out of me - it's great in fiction but irl it's a slightly pathetic and boring experience to observe these guys drone on about their toughness.
Sociopaths do carry on like toddlers tbf.

He did say he had serious issues with his violent father and just projected that angst on to all his hits - well, as the old adage goes, find what you love and do it for the rest of your life.


Edward Wayne Edwards is interesting. Presents as a psychopath. No insight into what he's done, no empathy. Just consciousless instrumental aggression. The attitude and behaviour always comes across as more surreal than the violent sociopath.
Lacking the physiological ability to empathise or have any ethical insight into themselves or others; they're literally neurologically disabled, appearing more neurotypical than even an average neurotypical.

Last year, J. Cameron; ex-profiler, was purporting that Edwards was the Zodiac (along with every other unidentified high-profile, serial killer/psychopath since the Black Dahlia), this brought him into the web-limelight
Nevertheless, his life-course con-artistry and murdering are interesting, amusing and disturbing; how he featured on game shows (like Alcala), found religion and wrote a book about his conversion to the 'clean life' and baited a vulnerable kid, he had fostered, to his death. His daughter was the one who finally reported him to the police.





Yeah, I watched that a few years back. Dahmer doesn't seem like a violent necrophile. :\

haha, I seriously don't know what a violent necrophile behaves like but you'd think they'd at least have that 'Screamin' Jay Hawkins' type look, eh? :)





BTK is an interesting one. He just couldn't resist taunting the police.

From what I read he was convinced that he was caught after his first murder and when he wasn't, it just tickled him pink!
 
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It ain't a serial killer case, but recently I've been interested in the Annandale Jane Doe case: https://www.reddit.com/r/Unresolved...8/annandale_virginia_december_1996_a_jane_doe

Short version of the story: December 18, 1996, a woman commits suicide (booze and Valium with a bag on her head) in a cemetery in Annandale, VA. She laid out a plastic sheet to die on and decorated it with Christmas balls and an 8" plastic Christmas tree. She left $100 for the coroner and the cemetery, and a note requesting no autopsy. She died listening to comedy cassettes on her headphones. Removed all identifying possessions and her ID remains unknown.

It's a weird story for me--both creepy and sweet.
 
Simco: That is incredibly sad :(... if she wasn't murdered.

Find the fact that she had to use masking tape etc. to asphyxiate herself a bit curious, given that she would be sedated. It's a very odd situation - can't help but think there was more sinister forces at play.

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Watched this last weekend. Mindblown.:?


(Munchausen by proxy - hate the tablodieque stuff, no examination of Dee Dees messed-up family was dissapointing)
 
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I wonder if it was really just a clever southern murder?

A distinct possibility. Though why not just dump the body in that case? Seems pretty elaborate for a murder. Who knows though? That's what makes the story great...there simply are no answers.
 
He didnt blame porn; he was inflating his ego by trying to manipulate via the media. Being a pathological liar and malignant narcissist his delight in his own manipulations were just beyond what anyone can grasp - he was getting off on trying to manipulate and it was no doubt a joke to him.
we looked at this interview it in a philosophy of sexuality class, and it was surreal that some people did not realize he was lying. even the reporter clearly realizes he's lying, showing frustration at his bullshit answers.
 
^ Every Government and nation, basically.


we looked at this interview it in a philosophy of sexuality class, and it was surreal that some people did not realize he was lying. even the reporter clearly realizes he's lying, showing frustration at his bullshit answers.

Naeivety and Optimism can be a slippery slope to worse things. For sure.

What I find even more disturbing Hydro, was that att Regans' minions (the 'anti-porn' ( aka republican; aka I want to get votes; family 'values' brigade) were using this Psycho to campaign for their cause. Parisite upon parisite, ever decreasing circles of darkness. :\:p
 
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