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(phenibut) Suicide thinking, sleeplessness, movemement disorders, speech problem

logarithm

logarithm

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took amphetamines in doses of usually 1 to 5mg combined with phenibut up to 3 grams per dose several times a day. finally i used around 50 to 60 grams phenibut in 10 days. also i smoked at around one to two packs of cigarettes a day or night. sleep was very bad after some days. sometimes i woke up in the night and was psychotic. had visiual hallucinations and heard sounds as if something is hittimg in my ears. got strong tic type movements.i woke up one night and my face looked like it is hanging down after some days i had problems in moving my left arm, leg and mouth. since then they move stuttering quirky or inexact. my left part of the body feels numb. on day ten i stopped taking phenibut. After these ten days i was sleepless for 7 days. in some nights i took small doses of phenibut in hope to calm me down. I also tried alcohol but that prolonged withdrawal for two more days. Then after 7 sleepless nights i slept 8 hours. next day morning i felt good. but soon realized that if somebody speaks to me complex stuff, i couldnt follow it or i just forgot. have problems remembering also. on that day i made a list on what to do the next days and wrote stuff to some people. at around midpart of the day i got stressed and felt like no motivation. i worried a lot. then the movement disorders came back. was able to get 6 hours of sleep. but very difficult. woke up again and cant really do anything but feel pretty awake. after sleeping the movement disorders of left body got better. have suicidal thinking. took sleeping pill iterax does nothing. when taking gabapentin on day 7 i felt amazingly awake and automatically did go out to buy many sleeping pills to kill myself. but stopped after i couldnt find any conclusive answer if the pills are deadly. dont know what to do. feel like brain damaged and cant do anything. just want kill myself. i am in asia far away from family but have some people who care about me. how can i sleep/ gabapentin again? or better not? will the movement disorders of my left body go back? did most of my life take medication, stimulants, alcohol, other drugs sometimes, mixing them? is my brain getting parkinson?

my girlfriend left me with onset of withdrawal.was diagnosed as child and adult with adhd. my mind is constantly worryimg now. my mind feels to weak to think about something else. i feel mentally impaired. sleeping pills dont work. my back hurts and my body feels stiff. i just want to sleep or kill myself. what can i do?

Gabapentin just makes me awake and i cant sleep!! How can i sleep and what is that movement disorders? I checked for stroke but is fine... Parkinson or what?

I was already at three doctors. They gave me vitamin b and sleeping pills. But the pills dont work. How can i recover? And how long will it take?
 
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You will have noticed that I have moved your thread to our 'Sober Living' section.

I do not know about Phenibut but I used to be a heavy user of stimulants (awake a few days, crash, awake a few days, crash etc). I have suffered quite a few of the things that you have mentioned in your post - tics, horrible memory, not sure how to function, having to concentrate on simple tasks like walking etc.

I do not know what is wrong with you but try not to guess at symptoms like a stroke or Parkinsons etc, it just makes you worry more and this slows down your healing process. If you have been awake for a long time you may have been skipping meals (or not eating at all) you may be dehydrated and your body may simply be exhausted.

What sleeping tablets did the doctors give you ? Did you tell them that you have been using Phenibut in such large doses?

Are you taking a multivitamin ? Potassium and magnesium can help with the twitches but do not take them in excess.

It's impossible for me to say how long it will take you to recover - it may take you a few weeks.
 
Sorry you are going through this. Looks like your withdrawing from the phenibut.


Case report: A somatically healthy man in his mid-20s with a previous history of substance abuse took phenibut for 2 months. He noted tolerance development already after the first week and increased doses up to 20 g/day. Already a few hours after the last dose the patient started to experience subjective symptoms, at the third day of abstinence the patient started to hallucinate and the following day’s symptoms were aggravated with increased hallucinations and confusion. After treatment with benzodiazepines the psychosis resolved.

Conclusion: Phenibut withdrawal symptoms can become severe and have similarities to Baclofen, GHB, benzodiazepine and alcohol withdrawal. Benzodiazepines and supportive care seems to be the most effective choice of treatment for objective abstinence symptoms.
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Psychotic symptoms during phenibut (beta-phenyl-gamma-aminobutyric acid) withdrawal
Phenibut is a γ-aminobutyric acid (GABA) agonist designed and used as an anxiolytic in Russia. In Western countries, phenibut is not a registered medication but is available through online stores as a supplement. We present a case of a patient who used phenibut to self-medicate anxiety, insomnia and cravings for alcohol. While phenibut was helpful initially, the patient developed dependence including tolerance, significant withdrawal symptoms within 3–4 h of last use and failure to fulfil his roles at work and at home. He finally sought medical assistance in our addictions clinic. We have gradually, over the course of 9 weeks, substituted phenibut with baclofen, which has similar pharmacological properties, and then successfully tapered the patient off baclofen. This required approximately 10 mg of baclofen for each gram of phenibut.
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Phenibut dependence.


Differences and similarity in the interaction of fenibut, baclofen and diazepam with phenylethylamine].

[Antiabstinent action of fenibut and baclofen on a model of abstinence induced by the benzodiazepine receptor antagonist CGS 8216 in rats receiving diazepam].

A case of delirium, motor disturbances, and autonomic dysfunction due to baclofen and tizanidine withdrawal: a review of the literature.

Baclofen

Benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome Wiki
 
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Please do not kill yourself. All of the problems you face can be overcome or at least accepted.

I too have lasting effects from my drug abuse. My short term memory is shot. I cannot remember most things from the day before unless I really focus. It is strange some things I remember well, like the location of objects, but other things I cannot remember like when someone says a list of things or directions. I found this embarrassing for a long time but it is something that can be overcome.
 
The acute withdrawal from phenibut is a BITCH. You should look into a baclofen taper, as that is another GABA-B agonist (I think) like phenibut (I think). You need to get your ass back to the doctor, or find a new doctor is you current one isn’t knowledgable enough or even willing to help (it doesn’t sound like he is able to really help you if all he did was give you vitamins and a sleeping pill). If not baclofen you would seriously benefit from a rapid clonazepam or diazepam taper. But really you need professional help. I highly recommend you find a competent doctor. Basically you need someone who has worked with at least benzo withdrawal, as that is probably the most similar to what you’re going through, although frankly I’d think that a heavy phenibut withdrawal is nastier.
 
i can now sleep much better. but still i notice that i have some numbness feelings at the left side of my body. i really wonder what it is. i read like parkinsonmovements can have to do with dopamine gaba depletion or neuroanl loss. i hope it is transient stuff and goes away. hope it is from my back maybe.
 
I wouldnt worry too much about it. Make a doctors appointment is youre really that concerned, but changes are good it is just a nerve you are sleeping on funny or something. It could be heart related though, so Id schedule a physical examination with your doctor in the very near future, just to be on the safe side. Tell her about your recent cessation of drug use as this is significant to your current situation.
 
L-theanine and L-tryptaphan will help level out your moods. Bare in mind though that you should discuss all supplements with your prescribing doctor.
 
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