how do you know they favor the r isomer nowadays?As far as my chemistry knowledge goes i know that isomer specific synthesis is more costly and more difficult to make so i cant think why they would bother with that,exspecially when its known that the s isomer produces more desireable effects
Maybe your tolerance has just grown over the years,because you build tolerance to mdma,even if you only take it twice a year
You are correct re isomer in theory. By traditional methods both the S and R will be produced in equal amount so by the original synthesis you get 50/50.
There are two theories
1. The labs originally were performing chiral to favour S. Because it gave a better product. 80 - 90s MDMA manufacture was centred towards a niche market and production was far easier than today (watched ingredients better LE understanding etc has led to more clandestine manufacture which will always favour the fastest possible turnaround big bucks approach).
2. The move to faster manufacture new methods, precursors etc. IE one pot reaction and the new catalyst packages have introduced far more stereoselective end result. Now R is in a much higher ratio than the original 50/50
3. A bit of both
One point Le Junk has made and I also make is that direct comparison test (forgetting totally anecdotal rose tinted glasses MD was better back then debates) repeated and also confirmed by others doing the same (including noobs to MD) highlight the effect of MDMA varies even when product has been GC / MS verified and the purity theoretically the same. IE no other active ingredients.
What Le Junk is ACTUALLY saying;
He has two samples VERIFIED by GC / MS.
On ingestion one is as he would expect from his experiences the other is a different high. Yes it's a personal experience, yes MD high differs but he is saying the two highs HE experiences TODAY are different. Set setting tolerance et al.
Having repeated and having continually gained the effect he seeks from one sample he can only conclude the other sample is of a differing manufacture method because it does not deliver to expectation.
So it kind of blows apart this tolerance set and setting debate.
I also confirm along with many others who have run similar experiments including new to MD participants blind tests that they report the same.
There are many variants of MD and the variation of high some MD gives NOW not just historically.
As Le Junk says good stuff is still around but the Dutch super pills result in a more Lethargic and introverted result with a much shorter plateau.
If Le junk had not experienced anything else he would be in the don't be silly camp. He would be rolling balls on fire pills and loving it because he had no memory to compare against his other experiences.
There is one flaw in Le Junks science approach and that is dose. Dose appears to be not controlled in his experiments.
However if the test lab result gave an mg content of the Tesla he could weigh the Tesla gross crush the pill up finely;
A) these days it is common to have large crystal chunks in pills as a marketing ploy. Crushing to powder remove potential variance.
B) crushed because this will mitigate the potential difference between a tightly packed pill with an enteric coating against a powder which will be more readily broken down and absorbed IE there has to be no variation in samples taken.
Then weigh out the desired dose gross / net to directly compare against that of the other powder sample.
Failing mg result a direct dose comparison can not be done and results again move into the realm of anecdotal.
However the Tesla could again be crushed up and then a gradual increase of dose starting at say 100 mg of the powder which would probably equate to 50 mg. Dutch pills have a 50/50 ratio filler to MD, you can check by seeing results from a lot of labs who weigh total weight and then content. Then over the course of a few months gradually increase dose. He may well find that it is simply the dose but from personal experiment I have found that there is still very distinct differences even at much lower dose and that the threshold dose appears much higher on the Dutch pills tested. IE on the experience I seek it takes much less; around 60 - 70 mg to be getting threshold effects and my preference is 130 - 150 mg per experience. On these Dutch its upward of 100 mg threshold and moving into realms I would of thought (and Shulgin) stupid at 200 to 250 mg per experience.
Again if you do want to refer to history pills never were in the + 200 mg. usually 80 - 130 mg were a very good pill in the 90s. I also find the same today when the MD is what I would call the Shulgin experience.
