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whats a good pill for LUCID DREAMIN

femaletrouble

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Ive noticed that in the past when ive taken codeine or tramadol early in the evening i get a sort of closed eye visuals which i asume are similar to lucid dreaming? i dont take any mind altering substabces but would love to have that dreamy visions i get from tramadol. Do i need fly agaric
 
Agomelatine gave me very, very severely lucid dreams. Sometimes it was incredibly pleasurable, but other times it was very distressing. My mother passed away about 10 years ago and I use to lucid dream about her. Life was perfect, I'd then wake up and have breakfast wondering where mum was and then it'd hit me like a truck that it was just a lucid dream.

I found it very upsetting and couldn't tolerate it anymore. More times than not it was good fun and very pleasurable, but just them handful of bad experiences was enough to render it no longer viable for me.

Dose was 50mg by the way.
 
Yeah melatonin is known for causing lucid dreams, especially at higher doses like 10mg and some people get heroic and go to 50mg but I certainly wouldn't do that very often, you don't wanna mess with your natural production of melatonin. Closed Eye Visuals CEV's are a little different than actual lucid dreams though, I think you'd find it incredibly hard to actually sleep on any psychedelic like mushrooms/LSD.
 
^ what they said.

Mirtazapine and melatonin caused some amazing dreams. The dreams alone almost make me want to go back on it.
 
5-HTP and Melatonin.

Safe(r) and OTC.

Maybe not the MOST lucid, but you will get very good sleep and at least have very vivid dreams, sometimes lucid IME.
 
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I think perhaps the definition of a lucid dream has been misrepresented here. What contributors sound like they're describing are vivid dreams - dreams which for one reason or another 'feel' more 'real' and give the individual a disconcerting feeling upon waking. Not you though cOrrupt22 - you seem to understand the difference.

Lucid dreaming is the phenomena of becoming aware one is dreaming during the dream. So you will actually stop and think "hey, wait a minute, this is a dream. I'm (insert name here) and I am currently dreaming. It's a Tuesday (or whatever) night and I'm in my bed here at home and none of this is real. It's a dream and I am aware of that fact."

At that point the lucid dreamer will be able to control some (but rarely all) the elements of the dream. You will become aware of physical sensations (which are usually dulled - obviously you can't feel extreme pain while dreaming, nor can you generate an orgasm on cue, annoyingly), and visuals, like looking closely at a subject matter or standing back and looking at the horizon or whatever the "boundary" of the dream is.

I could bang on about lucid dreaming ad nauseum, but only a brief summary is appropriate here. You can't control everything, sometimes the dream will become lucid only briefly then revert back to a normal dream. They are very memorable and if you have had a genuine lucid dream you will know about it.

Perhaps the best way to describe it is like playing the best, most complex and enthralling video game you've ever encountered. Because, of course, when you are playing a video game you are aware you are playing a video game. That's what a lucid dream is like. Grand Theft Auto on steroids.

And finally, in regards to psychoactive compounds which can help facilitate lucid dreaming, SSRI's are my recommendation. I am fairly experienced with different drugs and different classes of drug, and I am adamant it is my continued use of fluvoxamine which leads to my regular lucid dreaming. I have one or two lucid dreams a week, and have done for ten years - the same amount of time I have been on fluvoxamine.

Disclaimer: I WOULDN'T recommend trying an SSRI in a 'recreational' fashion to induce a lucid dream. They are medications you are either on or not, they have little to no abuse potential, and they are used to treat depression, not create lucid dreams. The dreams are just a side-effect, like a fringe-benefit. DON'T just take a bunch of Prozac or Luvox or Zoloft or whatever to try and dream lucidly.

Sweet dreams :)
 
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I don't know about lucid dreaming necessarily, but trazodone gave me dreams that were fucking insane in how vivid they were, at least in the beginning. I stopped taking it, then started again and that aspect of the drug didn't continue, however (although it did give me "dry orgasms", which was terrifying for me until I figured out that it was due to the medication I was taking).

Tricyclic antidepressants generally speaking have this reputation.
 
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I don't know about lucid dreaming necessarily, but trazodone gave me dreams that were fucking insane in how vivid they were, at least in the beginning. I stopped taking it, then started again and that aspect of the drug didn't continue, however (although it did give me "dry orgasms", which was terrifying for me until I figured out that it was due to the medication I was taking).

Tricyclic antidepressants generally speaking have this reputation.
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I knew a guy who was on resperidone (an atypical antipsychotic) and he said when he reached climax, nothing would come out (pardon the pun)....is that what a "dry orgasm" is?

On a side note, on the very rare occasions I have an orgasm during a lucid dream, or any dream for that matter, I find it feels like it lasts heaps longer. I think it might be because of the time-dilation (or maybe time contraction) of dreaming, like in that movie Inception, where it explains that when we dream our minds are working a lot faster, so the climax feels extended. I wish I knew how to make it happen every time I dream lucidly...
 
Yeah, in men it's when you achieve orgasm but you either ejaculate very little or no semen at all.

It bothered me enough that I stopped taking the medication and everything returned to normal, fortunately.
 
Valerian root, alpha GPC, various nootropics, Z-drugs, and melatonin are what immediately pop up in my head. Kratom also used to occasionally induce lucid dreams when I would take a dose when woken up by withdrawal, that is if I immediately went back to sleep. Valerian and melatonin taken together have induced the most reliable lucid dreams of anything bought OTC though, IME.
 
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Mirtazapine.
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This just causes vivid dreams for me, never lucid. I take 45 mg / night and wake up every morning spending 10 minutes sorting through my memories -- figuring out what was a dream and what was an actual memory. Strong stuff with occasionally brutal dreams. Not for everyone, but if you need it, it's a lifesaver.
 
+1 on VIVID dreaming. Mirtazipine was the only medication ive flushed down the toilet because the one and only time I took it I had the most horrifying vivid nightmare Ive ever experienced. Fuck that shit..
 
I've delved fairly deep into research pertaining to herbal dream-benefiting things (actually, that's really how all of my interest and experience with drugs and such began), and haven't really had much success with any of them. I've always been big into dreaming and lucid dreaming, but can't say that I've found any substances that have helped too much with it.
There have been a few hit-and-miss things that I've found, though:
Kava - I think there were a few times that I had pretty in-depth dreams after having kava.
Syrian Rue - Never, never, never going to try Syrian Rue again, since the one time that I really tried it I got horribly nauseated and discombobulated, so much so that anything warm with lemon juice in it will immediately nauseate me. However, after that one time, and after quite a long time of puking, when I finally began to drift off to sleep, I could really feel my awake-consciousness directly fading into my sleep-consciousness, if that makes sense. I was randomly thinking about playing a racing game, or something, and while still slightly awake, I began dreaming about it. That feeling was really cool, but the absolute terrible-ness of the rest of the time has made me never want to do it again.
Kratom - Again, not exactly lucid dreaming, but when I'm going to sleep on kratom, there is often a pretty long amount of time that I fade in and out of dreams and wakefulness, not exactly like nodding, but still kind of cool sometimes. Occasionally a bit difficult to tell what's real and what's not, though.

I'd really more just recommend typical lucid-dreaming training-style stuff: dream journals, reading about lucid dreaming (especially right before bed), regular reality checks within both dreams and reality, and the like. It's a really cool thing to get into.
 
Try listening to binaural theta waves inducing sounds on YouTube. It will make you sleep lightly with dreams alle night. Anyway you might not feel av rested without the periods of deeper sleep.
 
Whenever I couldn't distinguish between experiencing a dream or reality, if it any point I saw my (dead) mother, that would be the point in which I would realise that I must be having a lucid dream. I remember being severely distressed during some dreams (once I knew they were dreams) and wanted to wake myself up which was sometimes hard. I found the best method was to try and kick my right leg. Not overly effective but it worked occasionally.
 
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