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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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@invegauser Sorry dude, I didn't mean to be offending. Just tried to give him an idea of what you been through and I couldn't stop my anger of these drugs being put into my words. I appreciate you as a person, but I will always hate these drugs with passion. Thank you for answering my question. Have a nice time and enjoy yourself! And btw. I make the paragraphs, but as soon as I post my reply they're gone. I don't know why. It's like that since a few weeks.
 
@zack365: always darkest before the dawn? hang in there.

@Yeshuah: like i said, all good cause i got what you were saying. yes, these drugs have horrendous side effects sometimes, i learn to bend with them instead of break and let them get the best of me, it's helps me stay sane in this world gone mad where the you don't spank the monkey, the monkey spanks you. don't let the drug win and move on once your healed.

i thought that might be the case, i wonder if it has something to do with the device you use on this site. they have a good tech staff but there are so many devices now a days it's hard to keep up with them all. thanks for the attempt anyway. and your welcome.
 
Congrats @Empty :) I only had that a few times. Especially when I drank green tea. Don't know why..
 
Hi everyone and invegauser thanks for your kind words it's good to see you back. I hope you get a new TV and keep playing videogames that's good for the brain keeps it busy.

I haven't had much progress, I'm working on my depression for right now. Going to start by cleaning up and try to find something I enjoy doing, I haven't done anything but listen to music this past month, been so debilitated it's hard to believe this is what my life's outcome is now like. I hope it gets better for everyone soon.
 
Hello everyone.

I tried to keep up with some of the posts I missed but there are just so many and the drug I was taking, Vraylar, made things pretty difficult. Some of my side-effects weren't recognized by mainstream psychiatry, I guess. I've been having difficulty with exercising almost any part of my body. Going for walks my muscles would get stiff to the point it was hard to make it back home. Unfortunately, after I tried dropping the drug some of my old symptoms started coming back so I had to recontinue. So as of just recently my psych has provided me with a solution that has cut out the rest of those lingering symptoms, minus the stiffness in the muscles which will continue to linger until Vraylar is out, but I'm just glad to see some of those other symptoms go. It was hard to go anywhere since I was needing to pee like every hour. The solution for now is Rexulti, which I'm hoping is temporary. Should be back on my feet within a couple weeks (literally back on my feet and getting some exercise). I've gained too much weight from medications over the last year. This sucks.

But on a positive note, I haven't had any Invega related symptoms. I can sometimes see the level of spiritual energy inside my aura manifesting the way it was during Kundalini before the DNOTS - which is something Invega specifically seemed to target or block. Suffice to say, once I get off of these pills I should be able to move energies like I used to and use all the rest of my psychic gifts. But with the long half life of Vraylar, on the active metabolite, the comedown may be a long one. I can't say for sure. It took approximately 10 weeks (from what I can remember) to successfully and fully come off of Risperdal Consta. And Vraylar has a half life double what Risperdal Consta's is. Not altogether worried about it though because it seems easier to flush from the system. That should be a given for most of us veterans considering intramuscular is altogether different.

I'll try to check on here more frequently from now on since I'm in a better standing.

You peeps hang in there.
 
Ok so I?m about a little over a year off Invega. I came here to talk about intense anxiety. I?m getting horrible panic attacks sometimes- it could be partially related to when I take my klonopin or ?if? I take it. It?s just so fucking intense- I went to the urgent care last week mistaking my cold symptoms for an std lmao. I also can be a hypochondriac so if my stool isn?t normal I think I have a disease and shit (pun intended). Idk guys it?s just not fucking good bc I get these intense sinking feelings in my stomach and I can?t think and my world around me falls apart and then 10 min later I?m like ?woah ur a fucking idiot why we?re u freaking out like that?. I mention this tho bc it feels Invega related, I NEVER was this bad or fragile. I think it?s bc Invega withdrawal leaves the state of ur mind in certain conditions that incline you to think catastrophically and stuff, like suicidality, panic, etc. idk but I just got over a panic attack and thought I?d mention it.
 
@Hellohihey2 While reading your post I was thinking all the while similarities in my own history with intramuscular injections and was wondering all the while, reading, if it felt at all like Invega is coming back to bite you in the ass. When I first came off Risperdal Consta, everything was going smoothly until I went off my other AP, the pill form of Invega. Though Risperdal was well out of my system when symptoms started coming on, it felt a lot like Risperdal was back in my system except the panic attacks were coming on too, which made it all the more unpleasant. The way I ended up getting back to a better standing was the oblong route. I had to have the injections re administered. Afterwards, the panic attacks went away and a lot of my other symptoms too, albeit very gradually... but over the course of years of fine-tuning the medications that I was to take. You'll have to make your own decisions here seeing as how I'm not allowed to recommend treatment for you.
 
Hiya helahiny i think / know your anxiety problem is the klonopin do a valium taper to get off it benzos are the meanest drugs around the withdrawal can last for years just get off it or you'll go insane:|
 
@Johnnypupuke Thanks you for further clarification on that. I am not familiar with klonopin and have never really used benzos. That could be the issue. Last thing I want to do is edge someone on this thread towards starting up injection drugs again after they've come so far.
 
Drank some coffee today and holy shit when I?m caffeinated, the Invega feels completely gone. Gonna drink that shit every day
 
@Hellohihey2 What you are experiencing is benzo tolerance withdrawal. Your symptoms are stomach issues, panic attacks, intrusive thoughts, suicidality that's all typical for benzo withdrawal. Get some information on www.benzobuddies.org and read the "Ashton Manual" on benzo.co.uk to learn how to taper off. Just like Johnnypupuke has said, the best way to taper and the way most people do it is to get on the longest acting benzo like "Valium" and taper SLOWLY. You can find all of this in the Ashton Manual. If you go cold turkey with it it can cause serious problems. A protracted withdrawal and even seizures. Be very careful with it. And expect it to take months to years to recover.. Other symptoms that you may experience are burning skin, waking up in a state of panic, electric brain zaps, shaking all over the body, akathisia, insomnia, muscle pain, joint pain, terror (like someone threw you out of an airplane), aching etc. I don't want to scare you, I just want to make clear to you that this is some serious drug nobody should deal with... Also as a warning for other people who read this. Type in "benzo withdrawal" on youtube, there you can find information and people who are going through this. I recommend to you this channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCE4mtVBdV3j2bndhj47lxPA/videos GOOD LUCK! And hang in there. It will eventually get better.
 
@Hellohihey2: what's going on? you got some other symptoms you might be struggling with? it's not unheard of when getting close to being fully healed to have withdrawals from xeplion. hence side effects/withdrawal symptoms. there is usually an acute phase towards the very end that is hard to go through, i freaked out a lil on the mods in a different forum here right before i fully healed, talk about embarrassing. :\

some in the past have had psychotic breaks which is rare but most transition smoothly. a few others experience an intense comedown separation right near the end and what your describing sounds similar. it's our entire being finally letting go of the grasp the poison had on us. our emotions settle again, our bodies chemistry resets, our muscles loosen up a bit and we feel more comfortable in it, our mind starts working like it use to, the soul becomes less tormented. it all flares up shortly to reset itself right before getting back into living life without the poison. re-read your lat 10 posts and tell me what you think. also as long as your not dangerous or suicidal, give it a few more days and see what develops from it. info is your best weapon in the fight against the poison.

have you been taking the klonopin as prescribed and has this happened before in the past when following the script? is it as needed or at certain times every day? there are several things to look into here cause xeplion is potent and unknowable stuff, that's one reason why we say we're all different. like if you took klonopin 5 days in a row as prescribed but this still persists then it might be the comedown off the poison. that's just one example. definitely arm yourself with info and start a list, checking off each line as you go. you know yourself and how you work better than anyone else.

all in all it sounds like you got a grasp on what's going on.

@iridescentblack: long time no speaky. thanks for posting up. much success to you, fingers crossed. you got a lil something right here, is that a boogie?

@Yeshuah: that seems like a pretty good site. haven't gotten too much into it but i know benzo withdrawals can be a real pain. it's an epidemic here in the states, what a nightmare. thanks for sharing.

@invegaisnotgood: good stuff huh. be aware of your limits and if it's not continually working for you everyday that's ok, it did this time and that's a good sign in healing.

@Drugs off: yes, yes it is. how was it? orgasm, ejaculation, feeling, erection? details are important for you even if you don't want to post or it might. if you do just general references for those who are still suffering from sexual side effects might be hopeful. not what you masturbated to but if it was like it was pre-invega is good to know. did you get aroused from thinking about something or did it just happen. can you think erotic thoughts again. those kind of details have been talked about here in the past. we just don't want to know which porn site and specific video you were watching. haha.

@Empty1128: yes! relief!! XD i bet your sphincter isn't as sore from working over time. that's a good sign, your internal chemistry is starting to settle down again. you ever get the excess mucus problem in your stomach or not eating a lot?

@Johnnypupuke: valium huh? i'm not much into the housewife drugs. is that helpful with withdrawals from benzos?
 
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Is it "normal" that I still have constant suicidal thoughts every day at 5 months off? Especially when I wake up in the morning, the first thing I think is "I should just end this". I just want this to be over. And there's this loop going on in my head that this will take me years and that I don't recover 100%, that this is impossible etc. I think I'm the only one here that seems to not be able to handle this at all! The symptoms I still deal with are pretty much the same as 3 months off. Nothing has changed. Insomnia (no deep sleep and only 5-6 hours), unable to think, no feelings at all, not feeling my body like I used to. And I'm just so maaaad of this!!! I don't know if I can keep doing this any longer. Right now it feels like there is no way I would turn a corner at 6, 8, and 10 months off. It feels like forever!
 
i'm pretty numb to suicidal ideology, it has to be very intense for me to have to deal with it, mostly i just shrug it off. some are the opposite and the rest are in between. i had suicidal days twice, it's pretty typical to have one.

i think what your going through is the temporary loss of the hope receptor. you get a real nasty first hand experience with why it is so crucial, good news is since your feeling this way it means not all is lost.

i think we all experience a lot of negativity, loss of hope and other bad things about living without the good to balance it out. it locks our thinking in short and long term to a negative outcome. once the hope receptor kicks back in this changes drastically.

i know the feeling on being mad, i'm extremely angry today, i'm breaking the old patterns the poison put in me and when this happens with any drug or med it's a real drag. i don't experience it gradually like everyone else but short and very intensely. i'm familiar with it though from my history and i know to bunker down and get through the day is all i can do. the next day is always better. i was more mad at the fact i had to knuckle under a bunch while on the poison, that's part of what i'm dealing with today as well. i got an anger that could put the sun out and it's been simmering for years. but i'm in a better place now to deal with it and direct it to my benefit. you wont have to deal with this, your anger will dissipate the more hope, happiness and other positives kick in. doing what you can and finding your way through this trial is all you can do.
 
guys, gals
i was about to commit suicide 5 months ago
i was constantly thinking of taking my own life
had lost ALL hope that id go back to reality
EVERYTHING was gray
i didnt know how to socialize, had lost all my skills
wanted to die. BADLY
3 months after stoping invega treatment (after 6 months of taking 100mg injections on my bicep) motivaton clarity and sharpness, emotion, feelings, energy, etc. it all came back
and it came back with a vengeance. im better than ever. DONT LOSE HOPE. PM me. i went through hell only listening to birds singing at night kept me going. im not joking. everyhting else felt like bullshit. but now im in heaven. YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS,, it may take some time, but you WILL GET THERE. <3
 
@WeFlewOver I don't believe that you're 100% pre invega at 3 months. It's just not possible.. But thanks anyway for the encouragement!
 
Everyone's been so right about the fatigue, lately I've been feeling extreme fatigue and I have good weeks and bad weeks. On bad weeks I experience fatigue a couple times a day, it's not unbearable but annoying when I'm trying to focus on my job. To think I was claiming that I'm almost healed phew, I still believe I'm 90 percent healed which is an astronomical improvement from even 6 months ago when I was sitting around most of the day wondering if I'll ever work again. I was probably at 30 percent back then. Recovery is real otherwise I wouldn't be doing all the things I'm doing today but to what extent? Will I be at 90 percent for the rest of my life? I really doubt it because I've improved this much so far so what's another 10 percent. That's why it's good to get the opinions of old voices who are at a year and beyond of healing. It's good for me because I'm coming up to year in a couple months and I want to know what state will I be in? Do you heal 100 percent? Peace and love everyone.
 
@we flew over: I'm not one to usually speak up about another's healing but there's no way that motivation, clarity and sharpness came back within 3 months. And you said with a vengeance, are you sure? People don't usually feel that good after 3 months from their last injection. Don't you know what this stuff does to your brain, dopamine, receptors. People here take way longer than that to heal. I mean no disrespect by the way, you've had invega shots so that's bad enough for me. And you said you had suicidal thoughts, I had depression earlier in the year, not suicidal but mostly from hopelessness and anxiety caused by invega. Stay around and keep us updated on your recovery journey.
 
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