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Attempted suicide 3 days ago...

fizzymk

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Ive had a very bad past few days, started last friday, I only had a very small amount of dope left, and I thought I was getting a $250 check on in the day, of course I was going to use $150. on H, rest on cellphone bill and some other small things, well, turns out I was wrong about the hours I had worked, I only had a $37. check coming...not really enough money for me to get dope and pay the cell bill.

I started to panic, the person I can usually get some quick cash from was out of town, so I got some crazy thoughts in my head, and decided I was DONE, decided to commit suicide...so at about 6 that night, I got a large bag of charcoal, fired up the grill in my small bedroom,sealed all the doors with tape and lit the charcoal, it took about 45 minutes for the fire to die out and the coals to turn grey (if anyone didnt know, the lead singer from the band 'Boston' killed himself this way years ago, this is how I learned of it, basically death from carbon monoxide.

After the coals turned grey and fire was out I closed the window and laid down, about 40 minutes later, the room got SOOO hot, I could barely touch the walls, they were extremely hot to the touch, then I started hearing this weird sound, like a 'che, che, che', kind of a like a lawnmower blade turning, but in very slow motion, that type of sound, it kept getting louder and louder and appeared to be coming from the area my pillow was in, I saw a flash of light go across the room by my bed, it went very fast, and had no real shape, about that time, my dad called my cell phone, he was just up the street and letting me know he was coming by to get the electric bill, I didnt know what to do, so i answered it and broke down, told him what I was doing, the problem I was having with heroin, Looking back, I was not feeling normal, I could barely stand up, felt lightheaded and weird.

We ended up talking for an hour or so, after I put the remaining coals out and let all the windows open in my room, he took me to the ER, I was honest with them about everything, they were going to admit me to the mental health unit, but turns out my insurance would not cover this type of thing, so they cut me loose with a script for Phenegren, for nausea for dope withdrawl, and referred me to a local mental health counseling place, I havent done any dope since that night, and starting to feel somewhat better, but still cant sleep at all, RLS is very bad, headache, body aches, but not as bad as Ive had in the past.

Right now, I really want to go out and cop, but Im scared of getting in that same state of mine once I run out again, I think I came VERY close to death that night and still wondering what that noise and flash of light was, think my dad coming out unplanned right then and there was something greater than me intervening.

The other strange thing, everyone I told about how hot the surfaces were in my room, told me i was wrong and charcoal burning would NOT get the entire room hot enough for that to happen...again, Im not religious, but Im wondering if I was at Hells doorstep that night, and THAT was the heat..?? Im not sure what it was, but I think the sounds and flash of light was probably due to the carbon monoxide fucking with my head, but who knows, Im curious what you all think?
 
You had a barbeque going so I imagine that would make your room hot. Plus you're still early in your withdrawals and that can mess with your perception as well. I think it's a good thing that your dad called and you were able to tell him everything. Take advantage of the counseling they are offering. Do whatever you can to not go back to heroin.
 
Fzzy

Please look deeper into the possibility of your fathers being there at that moment as a sign. From who where or what? That's up to you. All life is precious. You are worth fighting for. Stand up for your self and others will champion the cause with you. Drugs are so powerful. Enemies that come invited into our lives as for fun or relief. They stay far to long and will not leave without a FIGHT! You can do it. Slip n fall slip n fall. That's OK. You will never be free if you lay down. Stand up.
I hope you definitely get some counseling. And depression is hand in hand with witjdrawl. You are not alone. Please update us and my prayers are for you and your family.
 
i feel ya man. i lost my arm and was confident at first, cocky to a point. but 2 months later im more and more depressed, angry, sad, etc. honestly ive long thought about ending myself the last month. but ultimately i cant do it. ive been such a burden to my loved ones for so many years and the ones that matter most are still pulling for me. i wont do it to them. its the most selfish thing a person can do imo. i see my shrink on wed. im sure he's going to up meds, paxil and abilify. hopefully it helps. dont give up. the sun always rises and addicts, no matter others may think, are some of the strongest most resilient people i know. pm me if wanna talk.
 
My take on it is that you might as well interpret it as a sign, a rescue from death, that you have something else to accomplish in this life. Why not? I have some experience with this in that I escaped death twice when I was using heroin last time around, when I shoulda died, so I know this can happen. I got in a fight with my running partners, ran out crying with my dope, and one of them shouted "don't do it all at once -- it'll kill ya." I was suicidal, injected all of it in an intentional OD, and woke up hours later very much alive. Not only that but a cop car pulled up behind me when I was parked and cooking my shot, shined the light on me, and drove away without hassling me at all. The second escape from death came when I nodded out at the wheel doing 70 mph on the highway and hit an eighteen-wheeler, totalling my car. I walked away without a scratch. I think I was saved for a reason. Not sure what it is yet -- maybe because family members need me to help them, maybe I'll be a grandmother one day and my help will be needed then. Who knows? I agree with the suggestion that you get some counseling to get through the depression that follows withdrawal. It's a long way back, but you can do it. If I did it, shit, you can for sure. Love ya, and thanks for posting.
 
I think you should sell ur stuff and take a job on a cruise ship in the bahamas or something... just get away from wherever you are. I think changing your external world for like 6 months or a year might help your internal situation.
 
I think you should sell ur stuff and take a job on a cruise ship in the bahamas or something... just get away from wherever you are. I think changing your external world for like 6 months or a year might help your internal situation.
yeah, ive thought this before, just packing up and driving somewhere to start over. I havent really thought it thru, cuz I could not make it that far, Ive already sold most my valuable stuff already in the past year...(all for dope mostly).

but I think anywhere an addict goes, the w/ds are still going to be there, still going to feel just as shitty, but with a different view, sure I would be away from my connections, but dope is everywhere and most addicts are good at finding a connection once the w/ds get rough enough...I know I can spot a fellow user most of the time, sometimes without even talking to them, kind of like a 6th sense!
 
I know what it's like to want to die because of dope.

Get a prescription for suboxone.
Saved my life.

Once you are on sub you can taper off, the w/d sucks but it's nothing compared to dope, and won't make you suicidal.

But yeah, been in that situation where you think you're getting money for whatever reason, you don't and you're out of shit-- literally feels like your world is ending.
 
i would say your dad saved your life. i dont think using heroin again is the answer. if anything, with the near death experience, i would take that as a wake up call and try to turn your life around. best of luck
 
Never ever trust your mind when your are in w/d. I can't stress that enough.

You were trying to deprive your brain of oxygen. Vivid hallucinations are a common symptom.
However, I doubt you were at the gates of Hell. The concept of hell is for souls, therefore no sensory input like humans have.

Since I have seen in your other posts you're still using, how have you been doing?
 
Sorry to hear that OP. I was in a similiar situatiion 10 years ago, I was about to jump from a 10 story building but right before I did my mom rang me. If she didnt I wouldnt be here today. Another strange thing was that she sensed something was wrong with me and thats why she rang even though we hadnt spoke for months. Mothers intuition I suppose

Oh and being on heroin too long will get anyone depressed and suicidal, even if they have an endless supply of it. Ive been off it more than 2 months now apart from smoking a small bit 2 weeks ago. Things arent that rosy yet but im not as depressed as I was when I was on the shit. Exercise and joining my local football team has definatly helped me mentally. Exercise and socialising is a must for recovering addicts. Being isolated and bored is a recipe for relapse

Good luck anyways pal
 
Never ever trust your mind when your are in w/d. I can't stress that enough.

You were trying to deprive your brain of oxygen. Vivid hallucinations are a common symptom.
However, I doubt you were at the gates of Hell. The concept of hell is for souls, therefore no sensory input like humans have.

Since I have seen in your other posts you're still using, how have you been doing?
Yeah, I kinda agree with you about being at the gates of hell...I think i was so worked up that night, I was just literally out of my mind...I do totally agree with you about NOT trusting your mind when going thru severe w/ds.

.Back around the time when I this happened, I was out of money on another day, and had none due to come in anytime soon, I was completely out of dope too, i really began to get nervous, I kept going thru my contact list on my phone, trying to think of anyone I could who I may be able to get a quick $100. out of...of course, the ones I called, did not have the money at the time, or didnt want to give a junkie cash in hand. I actually was so desperate, I decided to write a bad check...I have these blank paychecks from work, usually my work deposits my pay onto a credit card/ debit card, then if I want, I can write a check with one of these blank checks to get cash, there is no fee,so its better than taking money from an ATM...

Well, I knew this could lead to criminal charges, but at that moment, I just didnt care, I was willing to do just about anything to get some dope that night...so I wrote out the check for $350. (I wanted to keep it under $500), but my credit union wouldnt cash it, they said it declined it on the computer, so I learned I was not even able to cash a bad check like this..looking back, Im glad no one did cash it, as I would have been arrested if they had...But this just proves an addicts mind while in w/d is not even close to being normal, in the past, I would have NEVER even tried something like this!!

Ive been doing OK lately, but im using about every day, sometimes every other day, I got 2g about an hour ago, I couldnt get anything yesterday as my connection was up at their parents house for thanksgiving and were not coming home til this morning...needless to say, I got about 40 minutes of rough sleep last night, sneezing my head off, terrible head cold all day, but now, all thats gone, Ive got dope in my system again!!

I know it probably wont work, but Im going to try and become a 'functional heroin user', Im going to go to work every day, (working both weekend days this week too), and use when I have the money...I know a few people that are able to maintain their jobs, family, etc and still use most every day, theres no reason why I cant do the same.
 
^ I hope I didn't come across as too harsh. I really do empathize and have been in many similar situations.

I was a functional addict for years. I had a secure connect, good job and enough $ to pay for everything. You can get away with it for a long time as long as none of those things changes and you don't get arrested. Eventually, even if it's 3 or 4 years down the line, something will happen. It's hard to look at yourself as having a problem, if you have no negative consequences.

Even during my short time that I dealt, I would say that 20% were degenerate junkies,and the other 80% were just normal people with the ability to cover the habit.

I have no real data, but from my observation most users are functional users. And you don't usually hear about them as they do a good job keeping it secret.

But, eventually, something happens. Your connects get busted, you get laid off, you get searched on a normal traffic stop... Just be aware and take care of yourself out there.
 
^ I hope I didn't come across as too harsh. I really do empathize and have been in many similar situations.

I was a functional addict for years. I had a secure connect, good job and enough $ to pay for everything. You can get away with it for a long time as long as none of those things changes and you don't get arrested. Eventually, even if it's 3 or 4 years down the line, something will happen. It's hard to look at yourself as having a problem, if you have no negative consequences.

Even during my short time that I dealt, I would say that 20% were degenerate junkies,and the other 80% were just normal people with the ability to cover the habit.

I have no real data, but from my observation most users are functional users. And you don't usually hear about them as they do a good job keeping it secret.

But, eventually, something happens. Your connects get busted, you get laid off, you get searched on a normal traffic stop... Just be aware and take care of yourself out there.
No, you didnt come across too harsh at all... I do have a pretty good job, and been with them for close to 6 years, so I really dont want to loose this job, plus, I know if I did have to go out and get another job, nearly any job will make me take a drug test, so Id be fucked if I loose my current job..still, even recognizing this, during the times Im in withdrawl, its like I dont even care about that...Im like a different fucking person until I get dope into my system LOL I hate living like this, but I dont want to be sick as fuck for months either.

I know alot of other users who have the same connection I get my shit from and most of them are functional users, some drive pretty nice cars, can cop 2-3 grams every other day, so thats ALOT of money just to keep from getting sick and if lucky, getting high from time to time! LOL.

the thing I REALLY hate about this life, is the way our bodies/ minds deal with opiate w/d...It would be one thing if I knew each passing day would get better and better, like other kinds of sickness/ illnesses, but with w/d, its like our minds and bodies go out of their way to make it as fucking horrible as absolutely possible! Cant even rely on sleeping at night, so this just means an extra 6-8 hours of suffering each, not to mention, being tired and groggy tacked onto w/d sickness...I dont see how anyone can get and STAY clean due to this....I guess expecting each passing day to get better is just WAAYYY too much to ask for, no, instead we have to look forward to each day getting worse and worse, and this could go on for weeks/ months!! FUCKING RIDICULOUS in my opinion!

Far too many people have tried to tell me to pray to God during these times and this would help get me thru this shit...well, I have tired this in the past and NOTHING changes, if God is real, he is the one who made our minds and bodies and brains receptors the way they are, so I have little desire to pray to someone who designs a mind like this, seems like a cruel fucking joke to me, if god is real, he COULD have make our brains receptors different, at least so we dont have to go SOOOO long being SOOO sick..JUST from stopping using something coming from a natural growing plant! When you think about it like this, the way our minds and bodies work, is like a cruel joke! Im sorry, but if God does exist, he has NEVER answered any of my prayers, plus, its not like Im asking for extremes, just asking for the sickness to subside a little or less time..LOL

Oh yeah, plus, when other people are sick (non-users) like with a head cold, or bad flu, at least they can take basic over the counter stuff and get enough relief so they can function, go to work, etc. with us, we cant even rely on that!! anything that does work, even the few things that do help, dont help that much, and the stuff that does work, either is so expensive, hard to get a script for, or hard to get enough of them (legally anyway), its almost encouraging the person to go out and cop their original DOC!!! And, non-users who get sick, CAN expect each day to get better and better, and most illnesses DO NOT go on for months upon months either!

If God does exist, IMO, he did a piss poor job of designing the way our minds function and deal with withdrawl, maybe one day modern science will be able to genetically change this aspect of our brain chemistry and do a MUCH better job than any god did! Seems to me god likes to watch people suffer as long as possible with the way he created us, there is no fucking reason why ANY sickness, opiate withdrawl or not, should get worse with each passing day and go on for months and months...that is just PURE cruelty IMO.
 
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Ive had a very bad past few days, started last friday, I only had a very small amount of dope left, and I thought I was getting a $250 check on in the day, of course I was going to use $150. on H, rest on cellphone bill and some other small things, well, turns out I was wrong about the hours I had worked, I only had a $37. check coming...not really enough money for me to get dope and pay the cell bill.

I started to panic, the person I can usually get some quick cash from was out of town, so I got some crazy thoughts in my head, and decided I was DONE, decided to commit suicide...so at about 6 that night, I got a large bag of charcoal, fired up the grill in my small bedroom,sealed all the doors with tape and lit the charcoal, it took about 45 minutes for the fire to die out and the coals to turn grey (if anyone didnt know, the lead singer from the band 'Boston' killed himself this way years ago, this is how I learned of it, basically death from carbon monoxide.

After the coals turned grey and fire was out I closed the window and laid down, about 40 minutes later, the room got SOOO hot, I could barely touch the walls, they were extremely hot to the touch, then I started hearing this weird sound, like a 'che, che, che', kind of a like a lawnmower blade turning, but in very slow motion, that type of sound, it kept getting louder and louder and appeared to be coming from the area my pillow was in, I saw a flash of light go across the room by my bed, it went very fast, and had no real shape, about that time, my dad called my cell phone, he was just up the street and letting me know he was coming by to get the electric bill, I didnt know what to do, so i answered it and broke down, told him what I was doing, the problem I was having with heroin, Looking back, I was not feeling normal, I could barely stand up, felt lightheaded and weird.

We ended up talking for an hour or so, after I put the remaining coals out and let all the windows open in my room, he took me to the ER, I was honest with them about everything, they were going to admit me to the mental health unit, but turns out my insurance would not cover this type of thing, so they cut me loose with a script for Phenegren, for nausea for dope withdrawl, and referred me to a local mental health counseling place, I havent done any dope since that night, and starting to feel somewhat better, but still cant sleep at all, RLS is very bad, headache, body aches, but not as bad as Ive had in the past.

Right now, I really want to go out and cop, but Im scared of getting in that same state of mine once I run out again, I think I came VERY close to death that night and still wondering what that noise and flash of light was, think my dad coming out unplanned right then and there was something greater than me intervening.

The other strange thing, everyone I told about how hot the surfaces were in my room, told me i was wrong and charcoal burning would NOT get the entire room hot enough for that to happen...again, Im not religious, but Im wondering if I was at Hells doorstep that night, and THAT was the heat..?? Im not sure what it was, but I think the sounds and flash of light was probably due to the carbon monoxide fucking with my head, but who knows, Im curious what you all think?
I´m sorry to hear that Fizz.
Sometimes we are saved from bad things because of mysterious actions.
I remember once I was going to shoot up an entire bottle of a very strong medicine and out of the blue, the bottle felt on the floor.
It was 3 inches away and I did not come closer, so why and how did it move?
I could list other examples but I found that somehow I was saved.
Maybe this is a sign saying you are not ready. Who knows.!?
How are you coping now?
 
^ I hope I didn't come across as too harsh. I really do empathize and have been in many similar situations.

I was a functional addict for years. I had a secure connect, good job and enough $ to pay for everything. You can get away with it for a long time as long as none of those things changes and you don't get arrested. Eventually, even if it's 3 or 4 years down the line, something will happen. It's hard to look at yourself as having a problem, if you have no negative consequences.

Even during my short time that I dealt, I would say that 20% were degenerate junkies,and the other 80% were just normal people with the ability to cover the habit.

I have no real data, but from my observation most users are functional users. And you don't usually hear about them as they do a good job keeping it secret.

But, eventually, something happens. Your connects get busted, you get laid off, you get searched on a normal traffic stop... Just be aware and take care of yourself out there.

This is actually the real history behind the curtains..
I concluded that you can manage your addiction as far as 5 years without a single problem, most of the times.
After that the odds that you get in one of the situations above increases by the hour.
Take care!
 
You wanted to end it because the dope brain was in despair thinking you'd be better off because you couldn't afford another fix. Trust me, it's more common than you think.

You'd think from the outside I am together, but I'm not. Sure, I've come a long way .. I'm attractive, well liked, great job, family, but on the inside I scream out in pain.

All I can say is, my toddler son was murdered. I attempted to take my own life the first year. And yes, I have struggled with addiction.

Can you imagine my pain as a parent loosing my son? Now I want you to think on this because if you kill yourself, your dad will feel what I feel.

Advice: Get into detox, start a methadone/suboxone program. Go to counseling. Do whatever you can to kick that heroin habit, then see what life is really like sober, and money in your pocket.

Hugs
 
Can you imagine my pain as a parent loosing my son? Now I want you to think on this because if you kill yourself, your dad will feel what I feel.
^ Using guilt is not usually a good way to convince someone to stay alive.

After a certain point, keeping yourself alive just so others won't have to deal with your loss, becomes, in itself, a whole new reason to want to die.

Death is a very selfish act, however, some people are just so broken that to stay alive is constant pain. To place extra guilt on a person already close to the edge so you won't have to suffer is never a good idea.
 
I know where your coming from man. Been there done that in regards to the needle, dope, lifestyle, panic etc etc. Me and my girl got into a huge fight today because she recently found out about all my past, and somewhat current, drug use and she has not been taking it well at all. She's accusing me of shit that's not even remotely true but people like us are used to it right? We gotta be the stronger ones. But anyway it was so bad I just wanted to end it all. I almost snapped and did something stupid. But fuck it, it gets better. Glad to heat your alright.
 
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