I've had possibly one of the worst trips of my life on 25-i. I went to a part with 'friends', they were drinking copious amounts and me, being me, thought it was smart to drop. One of the girls ended up vomiting, nearly choking in it, I was the only one looking after people, I finally sat down, sweating absolute buckets, and forgot to breathe for ten seconds. When I finally realised, I gulped in air, panic'd, ended up in ER. 25-i is incredibly unpredictable, I agree my setting was perhaps the worst possible, but the drug completely fucked with my head worse than normal acid, questioned whether I'd od'd or not. Stay safe.
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I first encountered this series last october at desert trip festival. Drove across country with some old buddies to see some living legends and one guy had these blotters that he claims were great. Trusting him for ten years plus I took two tabs and while I did taste them and felt a numbing sensation I stupidly let them sit for about ten minutes in my mouth and then swallowed. Not even thirty minutes later right after we found our seats I was tripping absolute balls. Amazing visuals but my mind only experienced stimulation and anxiety instead of magic and enlightenment. I took 2mg of etizolam at the 2 hour mark which aborted the trip safely but I could feel my body tense up and my blood pressure was really high.
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Pill testing at Australian music festival uncovers drugs laced with NBOMe
Karlie Powell
November 6, 2017
Party drugs have been found with traces of a deadly substance, according to rogue pill testing at a music festival in Australia.
More than 300 festival goers had their pills checked out at the illegal testing station, and some of the pills were found to be laced with para-Methoxyamphetamine aka “Dr Death.”
The powerful hallucinogen NBOMe was also found in later tests of the dangerous drug cocktails.
According to a report in Australia’s Herald Sun, the substance (NBOMe) has been linked to three deaths and 20 hospital cases in a recent outbreak of overdoses along the party strip
known as Chapel Street in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Dr. Stephen Bright of Edith Cowan University, who headed the secret testing, started up the initiative after finding ecstasy that contained PMA.
Each pill was subjected to 4 different reagent tests. The results in about 30% of cases contradicted each other, indicating the drug contained an unknown substance.
“99 per cent of people binned their drugs when told they contained unknown substances. We went to the organisers and explained what happened. They didn’t want to see anybody
die at the festival, so they gave us permission to set up a testing station out the back of a tent.”
Dr Bright said it highlighted the need for sophisticated testing equipment, both on-site at music festivals and also at permanent locations in Australian capital cities.
http://www.youredm.com/2017/11/06/r...deadly-substances-party-drugs-music-festival/
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Pill testing experiment saw 99% discard pills
Edith Cowan
November 6, 2017
University researcher Stephen Bright conducted unauthorized pill testing at a music festival in Australia. Bright found when pills contained unknown substances, 99% of festival goers
decided to discard the pills.
Bright started the trial in the hope of shifting the national dialogue on pill testing at music festivals. He concluded the trial has exposed a need for sophisticated testing equipment, not an abstinence-based approach.
WA Police Minister Michelle Roberts and Health Minister Roger Cook have refused to look at pill testing as a life-saving tool.
Raegent tests were used in another scenario by Bright at a music festival in Victoria when one of his harm reduction colleagues was offered ecstasy. Bright tested the substance and found it was positive for para-Mathoxyamphetamine (PMA); a stimulant with hallucinogenic effects responsible for many overdose deaths.
Bright had plenty Raegent tests with him at the Victorian festival and quickly set up a pill testing station where 300 people had their pills tested.
The Sunday Times reported, “Practically every single person confronted with unknown drugs elected to bin their pills. Some of the discarded drugs were subsequently sent for detailed analysis at a lab in Spain where they came back positive for NBOMe [N-methoxybenzyl].”
Canberra’s Spilt Milk Music Festival was initially going to be the first festival with free pill testing, though the venue pulled out last minute.
“Pill testing is a proven success but in Australia we still have these incredibly dated myths about how it is a threat or encourages drug use,” Bright explained.
http://aadant.org.au/unauthorised-pi...discard-pills/
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What are PMA and PMMA?
Paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA) and paramethoxymethamphetamine (PMMA) are stimulants with hallucinogenic effects similar to MDMA, the main ingredient in ecstasy. People who take PMA
or PMMA think they are taking ecstasy. However, drugs sold as ecstasy may not contain any MDMA. They can be a mix of amphetamines, PMA, PMMA, ketamine, NBOMe, methylone or other substances.
This is potentially harmful as PMA and PMMA have more toxic effects than MDMA. It also takes longer to feel these effects, so people may take another pill in the mistaken belief that the first has not worked, sometimes resulting in overdose. PMA and PMMA have been around since the 1970s1 and have been associated with a number of deaths over the years worldwide including in Australia. In 2012 and 2013 there was a spike in deaths directly attributable to PMA or PMMA in England and Wales.
How are they used?
PMA and PMMA are usually swallowed but can be snorted or injected.
Slang names - Death, Dr Death, Pink Ecstasy, Red Mitsubishi, Killer, Chicken Powder and Chicken Yellow
Effects of PMA and PMMA
There is no safe level of drug use. Use of any drug always carries some risk. It’s important to be careful when taking any kind type of drug.
PMA and PMMA affect everyone differently, but effects may include:
- Feeling alert and excited
- Seeing colours and shapes
- Heightened senses (sight, hearing and touch)
- Dry mouth
- Teeth grinding
- Increased sweating
- Increased heart beat and blood pressure
- Difficulty breathing
- Irregular eye movements
- Muscle spasms
- Nausea
Overdose
If you take a large amount or have a strong batch, you could overdose. If you have any of the symptoms below, call an ambulance immediately.
Ambulance officers don’t need to involve the police.
- Kidney failure
- Extremely high body temperature
- Vomiting
- Convulsions and seizures
- Coma
- Death4
High doses of PMA or PMMA are potentially lethal.
Long term effects
The long-term effects of PMA and PMMA have not been established, but health professionals believe they may be similar to ecstasy.
Using PMA or PMMA with other drugs
Taking PMA or PMMA with other drugs such as alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, cannabis and some prescription medications such as anti-depressants (SSRIs and MAOIs) can be fatal.
https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/pma-and-pmma/
Karlie Powell
November 6, 2017
Party drugs have been found with traces of a deadly substance, according to rogue pill testing at a music festival in Australia.
More than 300 festival goers had their pills checked out at the illegal testing station, and some of the pills were found to be laced with para-Methoxyamphetamine aka “Dr Death.”
The powerful hallucinogen NBOMe was also found in later tests of the dangerous drug cocktails.
According to a report in Australia’s Herald Sun, the substance (NBOMe) has been linked to three deaths and 20 hospital cases in a recent outbreak of overdoses along the party strip
known as Chapel Street in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
Dr. Stephen Bright of Edith Cowan University, who headed the secret testing, started up the initiative after finding ecstasy that contained PMA.
Each pill was subjected to 4 different reagent tests. The results in about 30% of cases contradicted each other, indicating the drug contained an unknown substance.
“99 per cent of people binned their drugs when told they contained unknown substances. We went to the organisers and explained what happened. They didn’t want to see anybody
die at the festival, so they gave us permission to set up a testing station out the back of a tent.”
Dr Bright said it highlighted the need for sophisticated testing equipment, both on-site at music festivals and also at permanent locations in Australian capital cities.
http://www.youredm.com/2017/11/06/r...deadly-substances-party-drugs-music-festival/
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Pill testing experiment saw 99% discard pills
Edith Cowan
November 6, 2017
University researcher Stephen Bright conducted unauthorized pill testing at a music festival in Australia. Bright found when pills contained unknown substances, 99% of festival goers
decided to discard the pills.
Bright started the trial in the hope of shifting the national dialogue on pill testing at music festivals. He concluded the trial has exposed a need for sophisticated testing equipment, not an abstinence-based approach.
WA Police Minister Michelle Roberts and Health Minister Roger Cook have refused to look at pill testing as a life-saving tool.
Raegent tests were used in another scenario by Bright at a music festival in Victoria when one of his harm reduction colleagues was offered ecstasy. Bright tested the substance and found it was positive for para-Mathoxyamphetamine (PMA); a stimulant with hallucinogenic effects responsible for many overdose deaths.
Bright had plenty Raegent tests with him at the Victorian festival and quickly set up a pill testing station where 300 people had their pills tested.
The Sunday Times reported, “Practically every single person confronted with unknown drugs elected to bin their pills. Some of the discarded drugs were subsequently sent for detailed analysis at a lab in Spain where they came back positive for NBOMe [N-methoxybenzyl].”
Canberra’s Spilt Milk Music Festival was initially going to be the first festival with free pill testing, though the venue pulled out last minute.
“Pill testing is a proven success but in Australia we still have these incredibly dated myths about how it is a threat or encourages drug use,” Bright explained.
http://aadant.org.au/unauthorised-pi...discard-pills/
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What are PMA and PMMA?
Paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA) and paramethoxymethamphetamine (PMMA) are stimulants with hallucinogenic effects similar to MDMA, the main ingredient in ecstasy. People who take PMA
or PMMA think they are taking ecstasy. However, drugs sold as ecstasy may not contain any MDMA. They can be a mix of amphetamines, PMA, PMMA, ketamine, NBOMe, methylone or other substances.
This is potentially harmful as PMA and PMMA have more toxic effects than MDMA. It also takes longer to feel these effects, so people may take another pill in the mistaken belief that the first has not worked, sometimes resulting in overdose. PMA and PMMA have been around since the 1970s1 and have been associated with a number of deaths over the years worldwide including in Australia. In 2012 and 2013 there was a spike in deaths directly attributable to PMA or PMMA in England and Wales.
How are they used?
PMA and PMMA are usually swallowed but can be snorted or injected.
Slang names - Death, Dr Death, Pink Ecstasy, Red Mitsubishi, Killer, Chicken Powder and Chicken Yellow
Effects of PMA and PMMA
There is no safe level of drug use. Use of any drug always carries some risk. It’s important to be careful when taking any kind type of drug.
PMA and PMMA affect everyone differently, but effects may include:
- Feeling alert and excited
- Seeing colours and shapes
- Heightened senses (sight, hearing and touch)
- Dry mouth
- Teeth grinding
- Increased sweating
- Increased heart beat and blood pressure
- Difficulty breathing
- Irregular eye movements
- Muscle spasms
- Nausea
Overdose
If you take a large amount or have a strong batch, you could overdose. If you have any of the symptoms below, call an ambulance immediately.
Ambulance officers don’t need to involve the police.
- Kidney failure
- Extremely high body temperature
- Vomiting
- Convulsions and seizures
- Coma
- Death4
High doses of PMA or PMMA are potentially lethal.
Long term effects
The long-term effects of PMA and PMMA have not been established, but health professionals believe they may be similar to ecstasy.
Using PMA or PMMA with other drugs
Taking PMA or PMMA with other drugs such as alcohol, cocaine, amphetamines, cannabis and some prescription medications such as anti-depressants (SSRIs and MAOIs) can be fatal.
https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/pma-and-pmma/
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I remember experimenting, with 25i-Nbome as well as 25c-Nbome.
There was a LOT of vasoconstriction playing with these chemicals.
One night, I doses approximately 1.2mg of said 25i, I remember on the come up there was this very bad twitch in my calf right leg. Anyways, this twitching persisted for about 3 months. Also some MAJOR HPPD from using both TILL this very day!
It's background noise to me now, but was harder to cope with the first year.
Note, my experience with Nbomes were when I was 12-15 now I am 19.
Now, to my most recent report. I was given by a not so great divine, some 25B-Nboh.
There is VERY LITTLE research regarding this chemical so I went in full well knowing I was a lab rat.
Reportedly, they were 1.7mg EACH, throughout the course of my day I took 6 tabs. Totaling 10.2mg. Now, this was the REPORTED dosage by the not so great divine.
So for all I know, I only had 100ug of 25B Nboh, or I could've at just that much.
No psychedelic headspace at all, no visuals, at the least bit stimulating.
My pupils were showing dilation as if I were tripping attribute that to stimulation.
There does seem to be a cross tolerance regarding LSD.
Yesterday, I at 4 tabs of that reportedly, 25B-Nboh.
Dosed 522ug of pure sweet LSD but not tripping as hard as I usually due, I believe the 25B affected my 5hTa2 receptors on an unnoticeable scale.
My LSD trip is definitely dulled a bit, still tripping hardcore though!
I remember experimenting, with 25i-Nbome as well as 25c-Nbome.
There was a LOT of vasoconstriction playing with these chemicals.
One night, I doses approximately 1.2mg of said 25i, I remember on the come up there was this very bad twitch in my calf right leg. Anyways, this twitching persisted for about 3 months. Also some MAJOR HPPD from using both TILL this very day!
It's background noise to me now, but was harder to cope with the first year.
Note, my experience with Nbomes were when I was 12-15 now I am 19.
Now, to my most recent report. I was given by a not so great divine, some 25B-Nboh.
There is VERY LITTLE research regarding this chemical so I went in full well knowing I was a lab rat.
Reportedly, they were 1.7mg EACH, throughout the course of my day I took 6 tabs. Totaling 10.2mg. Now, this was the REPORTED dosage by the not so great divine.
So for all I know, I only had 100ug of 25B Nboh, or I could've at just that much.
No psychedelic headspace at all, no visuals, at the least bit stimulating.
My pupils were showing dilation as if I were tripping attribute that to stimulation.
There does seem to be a cross tolerance regarding LSD.
Yesterday, I at 4 tabs of that reportedly, 25B-Nboh.
Dosed 522ug of pure sweet LSD but not tripping as hard as I usually due, I believe the 25B affected my 5hTa2 receptors on an unnoticeable scale.
My LSD trip is definitely dulled a bit, still tripping hardcore though!
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Deadly new drug has reached Australia, pill testing reveals
The lethal ingredient is being substituted in ecstasy tablets. The deadly substance, hidden in what look like normal ecstasy pills, can cause ‘mass casualty overdoses’, expert warns.
One of the deadly substances uncovered at Canberra’s Groovin The Moo festival on Sunday is a highly potent new stimulant responsible for scores of deaths and hospitalisations worldwide.
The little-known ‘n-ethyl pentylone’ is part of the ‘bath salts’ (cathinone) family of stimulants. It is often sold as a white or colored powder and looks just like MDMA (ecstasy) but can be three times more potent, depending on the dosage.
One dose for ecstasy is roughly 100 milligrams, whereas a dose for n-ethyl pentylone is as little as 30 milligrams. The drug may cause convulsions, paranoia and may result in death.
The substance was identified during Australia’s first legal pill-testing trial in Canberra, conducted by the Safety and Testing and Advisory Service at Festivals and Events (STA-SAFE) in collaboration with the ACT government and ACT Police.
Dr David Caldicott, an expert in emergency medicine who was part of the STA-SAFE group on Sunday, described the finding as an unexpected “red flag”.
“I’ve not heard of a lot of issues with it in Australia yet, so this is a double cause for alarm,” he told The New Daily.
“It has been clearly responsible for the deaths of people overseas, and a rather unfortunate phenomenon known as ‘mass casualty overdoses’, where 10-20 people drop simultaneously. So, it’s of great concern to the music festival environment.”
The prevalence of the new drug in Australia is unknown. Outside of mobile drug testing services at festivals, there is very little data available on n-ethyl pentylone substitution.
Publishing their findings in March 2018, US and Brazil researchers confirmed they had detected the presence of n-ethyl pentylone in the blood of 26 people who had died of drug overdoses. Another test by the researchers, involving a saliva swab of five drug users who were attending a music festival, also confirmed the presence of the substance.
In February, New Zealand police issued a warning about n-ethyl pentylone being sold as MDMA after 13 people were hospitalised in Christchurch, including a 15 year old. Subsequent medical testing confirmed the drug was n-ethyl pentylone.
Drug testing social enterprise Know Your Stuff NZ says it has taken roughly 400 samples at music festivals in New Zealand in 2018 to date. Preliminary data from the organisation obtained by The New Daily reveals that 20 per cent of the substances presumed to be MDMA at New Zealand music festivals this year were in fact a dodgy batch of some type of ‘bath salts’ (cathinone) stimulants.
“We have found n-ethyl pentylone at every event we have been to this year,” director Wendy Allison told The New Daily.
According to the organisation, 30 per cent of the drugs tested in the 2016-17 New Zealand festival season were not MDMA as expected. Instead, eight substances were confirmed as n-ethyl pentylone and another 18 were classed as unknown cathinone.
Ms Allison said she was not surprised by the deadly finding on our shores.
“This stuff emerged around 2016 in the United States. We know by the summer of 2017 it was in New Zealand. Our counterparts in the UK have been finding it. So, completely unsurprised that it has been found in Australia as well.”
In May 2017, toxicology results conducted in Florida confirmed that a US man died following accidental intoxication caused by n-ethyl pentylone.
In the UK, drug testing organisation The Loop identified 10 samples of n-ethyl pentylone which was mis-sold as MDMA, as reported in Vice.
Mobile pill testing is currently available in approximately 20 countries in Europe, New Zealand and the Americas.
In Canberra, chemists who were on-site examined samples of the products using a highly specialised machine that contains more than 35,000 profiles of known substances and substitutes from around the world. The database had been updated as recently as Thursday.
Of the 128 participants and 85 samples tested on the day, the overwhelming majority of people mistakenly believed they were in possession of MDMA. However, mobile pill testing revealed that roughly 50 per cent had a bad batch.
Most of the products were found to contain inactive ingredients, such as toothpaste, condensed milk, ‘filler’ or colour changing agents, and at least two types of paint.
On Monday, organisers confirmed that a second product had been red flagged because the contents were not recognised by the machine and required further laboratory testing.
“One substance had two entities that did not match anything in the machine … and that makes me very nervous,” Dr Caldicott said.
“Unfortunately this is just another product that is out there, and no doubt we’ll find it again … but at the moment we don’t know what it is.”
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/wellbeing/2018/04/30/n-ethyl-pentylone-bath-salts-australia/
The lethal ingredient is being substituted in ecstasy tablets. The deadly substance, hidden in what look like normal ecstasy pills, can cause ‘mass casualty overdoses’, expert warns.
One of the deadly substances uncovered at Canberra’s Groovin The Moo festival on Sunday is a highly potent new stimulant responsible for scores of deaths and hospitalisations worldwide.
The little-known ‘n-ethyl pentylone’ is part of the ‘bath salts’ (cathinone) family of stimulants. It is often sold as a white or colored powder and looks just like MDMA (ecstasy) but can be three times more potent, depending on the dosage.
One dose for ecstasy is roughly 100 milligrams, whereas a dose for n-ethyl pentylone is as little as 30 milligrams. The drug may cause convulsions, paranoia and may result in death.
The substance was identified during Australia’s first legal pill-testing trial in Canberra, conducted by the Safety and Testing and Advisory Service at Festivals and Events (STA-SAFE) in collaboration with the ACT government and ACT Police.
Dr David Caldicott, an expert in emergency medicine who was part of the STA-SAFE group on Sunday, described the finding as an unexpected “red flag”.
“I’ve not heard of a lot of issues with it in Australia yet, so this is a double cause for alarm,” he told The New Daily.
“It has been clearly responsible for the deaths of people overseas, and a rather unfortunate phenomenon known as ‘mass casualty overdoses’, where 10-20 people drop simultaneously. So, it’s of great concern to the music festival environment.”
The prevalence of the new drug in Australia is unknown. Outside of mobile drug testing services at festivals, there is very little data available on n-ethyl pentylone substitution.
Publishing their findings in March 2018, US and Brazil researchers confirmed they had detected the presence of n-ethyl pentylone in the blood of 26 people who had died of drug overdoses. Another test by the researchers, involving a saliva swab of five drug users who were attending a music festival, also confirmed the presence of the substance.
In February, New Zealand police issued a warning about n-ethyl pentylone being sold as MDMA after 13 people were hospitalised in Christchurch, including a 15 year old. Subsequent medical testing confirmed the drug was n-ethyl pentylone.
Drug testing social enterprise Know Your Stuff NZ says it has taken roughly 400 samples at music festivals in New Zealand in 2018 to date. Preliminary data from the organisation obtained by The New Daily reveals that 20 per cent of the substances presumed to be MDMA at New Zealand music festivals this year were in fact a dodgy batch of some type of ‘bath salts’ (cathinone) stimulants.
“We have found n-ethyl pentylone at every event we have been to this year,” director Wendy Allison told The New Daily.
According to the organisation, 30 per cent of the drugs tested in the 2016-17 New Zealand festival season were not MDMA as expected. Instead, eight substances were confirmed as n-ethyl pentylone and another 18 were classed as unknown cathinone.
Ms Allison said she was not surprised by the deadly finding on our shores.
“This stuff emerged around 2016 in the United States. We know by the summer of 2017 it was in New Zealand. Our counterparts in the UK have been finding it. So, completely unsurprised that it has been found in Australia as well.”
In May 2017, toxicology results conducted in Florida confirmed that a US man died following accidental intoxication caused by n-ethyl pentylone.
In the UK, drug testing organisation The Loop identified 10 samples of n-ethyl pentylone which was mis-sold as MDMA, as reported in Vice.
Mobile pill testing is currently available in approximately 20 countries in Europe, New Zealand and the Americas.
In Canberra, chemists who were on-site examined samples of the products using a highly specialised machine that contains more than 35,000 profiles of known substances and substitutes from around the world. The database had been updated as recently as Thursday.
Of the 128 participants and 85 samples tested on the day, the overwhelming majority of people mistakenly believed they were in possession of MDMA. However, mobile pill testing revealed that roughly 50 per cent had a bad batch.
Most of the products were found to contain inactive ingredients, such as toothpaste, condensed milk, ‘filler’ or colour changing agents, and at least two types of paint.
On Monday, organisers confirmed that a second product had been red flagged because the contents were not recognised by the machine and required further laboratory testing.
“One substance had two entities that did not match anything in the machine … and that makes me very nervous,” Dr Caldicott said.
“Unfortunately this is just another product that is out there, and no doubt we’ll find it again … but at the moment we don’t know what it is.”
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/wellbeing/2018/04/30/n-ethyl-pentylone-bath-salts-australia/
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Fentanyl showing up in street drugs like MDMA
On a Saturday night in April, 5 people died after overdosing on what they thought was MDMA after leaving a club. Speculation about the deaths pointed to fentanyl as the possible cause.
Widespread media attention has focused on fentanyl, a drug 40 to 400 times stronger than morphine, in street heroin. Now rumors are spreading that it is showing up in other street drugs including MDMA, ketamine and LSD blotters.
But why is fentanyl showing up in drugs like MDMA?
It could be the result of inadvertent contamination. Or it might be that to some dealers, high is high. Even if its not the effect buyers are looking for, dealers dont know, dont care or dont understand the risks of cutting their product with fentanyl.
As a society, its time to evaluate whether moral repulsion around drug use is worth the death and incarceration of thousands of young people. Its time to acknowledge people should have sovereignty over their own bodies and minds, and that many of these drugs are harmless when used safely. The ones that arent are made a thousand times worse by prohibition.
https://nowtoronto.com/news/why-is-f...street-drugs-/
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Dangerous drug carfentanyl found in LSD blotters
Health officials in Canada are warning the public about blotters laced with the potentially deadly drug, carfentanyl, a very powerful pain medication. Carfentanyl is 100 times stronger than fentanyl. Police discovered the blotters after a 59-year-old man was found in physical distress and a family member called 911 on Jan 23. He died three days later in hospital. They believe
the blotters also contained LSD and were purchased through an online black market supplier.
Spokesperson Genevieve Major said the carfentanyl discovered in this case is so potent that even touching the substance with uncovered skin can transmit the opioid into a users system. Canada's public health office is warning that carfentanyl is 10,000 times more potent than morphine and so powerful that even a tiny dose can lead to respiratory failure and death. Health officials say the drug could also be absorbed through the skin. As little as 2 milligrams of carfentanyl can lead to a fatal overdose.
Carfentanyl is so powerful and so fast-acting that it can easily lead to unconsciousness and death because an individual stops breathing. Officials say users may also not realize what they
are taking and may think they are using something else.
We want to let people know that this exists, that just touching this drug can be dangerous, said Evelyne Boudreau of the Laval police department.
People need to know about this. People need to know that if they think they're buying LSD, that may not be the case.
This is the first time fentanyl has appeared in blotters in the Montreal area, though not in Canada. Last year, Winnipeg police seized six blotters laced with carfentanyl that were designed
to look like childrens tattoos.
It is not for human use, it's like morphine but for elephants, said Boudreau.
The blotters found portray a man riding a bicycle on a green and red background.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/dangerou...aval-1.3801420
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People are using a $1 test strip to check their drugs for Fentanyl
Anything I put in me, I definitely want to know what is in it, a man, a heroin user in Baltimore once told a researcher. They are dropping like flies on this stuff.
This stuff is fentanyl, an opioid drug 50 times more potent than heroin. It is now the leading cause of fatal overdoses nationwide, killing about two people a day in Baltimore alone.
The man was part of a 3-city study last year in Baltimore, Boston, and Providence, Rhode Island that encouraged users to test their own drugs with a $1 fentanyl test strip that resembles a pregnancy test.
These people are going to be using heroin or other drugs, said one of the studys leaders, Susan Sherman of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, at an April conference in Atlanta. Drug checking allows for them have information about what is in them.
Public health experts nationwide, mostly in big cities, are providing fentanyl test strips to drug users to let them test the drugs for themselves. Intended to test for fentanyl in urine, the strips also work in water mixed with a sample of a drug, revealing one red stripe for the presence of fentanyl and two stripes for none detected.
In the 3-city study, which has not yet been published, investigators first tested the accuracy of the strips in 210 powder and pill drug samples collected on the streets of Baltimore. The strips were far more sensitive, able to detect about fentanyl concentrations 100 times lower than the portable lab devices, the study found.
Then they asked 335 drug users whether they would want to use the strips. Overall, 89% reported fentanyl checking would make them feel more protected, and 84% said they were worried about fentanyl in their drugs. Three-quarters said they did not want fentanyl in their drugs, and many reported using lower doses or not using the drugs if they tested positive.
The real benefit of the strips is starting a discussion about the dangers of street drugs and how users can find addiction treatment, Brandon Marshall of Brown University, who was part of the study team, told BuzzFeed News.
The common idea that street drug users dont care whether they live or die is crazy, said Tino Fuentes, a treatment advocate who has tested bags of street drugs for fentanyl in East Coast cities and frequently gives users the test strips.
Dealers dont know whats in there, either, most of them. They dont want it, he added. They cant make a living by killing off their customers.
In a separate study of 242 drug users in San Francisco, researchers from the Drug Overdose Prevention & Education (DOPE) Project found a similar willingness to use the strips. About 68% of the strips collected in this study tested positive for fentanyl.
Test strips are just one tool to let people know what is out there, and they are a great conversation opener, overdose prevention expert Eliza Wheeler of the Harm Reduction Coalition told Buzzfeed News. The message is that there are strong, powerful drugs out there. So what does that mean for you??
The test strips do have drawbacks. Perhaps most important: They cant tell you how much fentanyl is in a baggie, which determines whether it is a deadly dose or just an incidental contamination.
Another problem is that fentanyl is distributed so spottily throughout the drug supply that even two baggies from the same dealer, with identical labels, can give different test results, Fuentes said. I tell people to always be cautious. Just because you get a negative result doesnt mean it isnt in there.
And although federal law doesnt prevent the sale of fentanyl strips to consumers, state laws in all but eight states: Alaska, Maryland, Nebraska, New York, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming make their sale potentially illegal, Adam Auctor of the Bunk Police, which sells strips to public health groups, told BuzzFeed News by email.
We'll be challenging many of these laws by selling kits that are designed to identify unknown substances for educational purposes this year, come what may, he said. Sales of his companys strips, called FentKits, are skyrocketing worldwide, especially since the New Year, Auctor said. Eastern and Southeastern states, he added, are definitely hotspots.
For now, more studies are needed to see if handing out test strips to drug users would truly help them in the long run, Marshall of Brown told BuzzFeed News. The strip can be confusing two stripes indicating no fentanyl is a counter-intuitive signal that has even confused study researchers at times, he said.
And although three-quarters of drug users seem to want to avoid fentanyl, the rest could use the strips to make sure they get more of it. But Wheeler is skeptical that this is a problem.
We have fentanyl sold as fentanyl here, and people are buying it. At least this way they will know what they are getting, she said.
A tactic borrowed from music festivals and raves, test strips are just one way to deal with one of the outstanding problems of the opioid crisis; people only learn about a fentanyl outbreak after a cluster of deadly overdoses triggers alarm. Turning to tests strips now reflects a deeper need for the authorities to start testing street drugs, and warning people about fentanyl in real time, say experts such as medical epidemiologist Dan Ciccarone of the University of California, San Francisco.
Surveillance is a foundational aspect of public health, Ciccarone told BuzzFeed News. That makes the current lack of information about street drugs in the midst of a historic epidemic of fatal overdoses, with more deaths now than at the height of the AIDS crisis two decades ago, all the more frustrating.
From March to June of 2017, New York health workers collected 271 used heroin needles and found that 1 in 6 was contaminated with fentanyl. Only two of the 46 people who had turned in those contaminated needles were aware they had used fentanyl.
Washington, DCs Department of Forensic Science has tested 75 syringes from overdose cases since January of last year and found 49% containing some form of fentanyl. Only a handful contained heroin, the illicit opioid drug that has plagued cities since the 1960s. The report mirrors the outsize role of fentanyl in the overdose epidemic reported in many states and cities.
A sensible street-drug monitoring system would rely on lab results, not fentanyl strips, Denise Paone of New York Citys Department of Health told BuzzFeed News, but the costs are prohibitive, at $300 a syringe test.
Damn the cost, said Ciccarone, pointing to years of health officials playing catch-up to overdose outbreaks only after people start dying. In his view, cities should start collaborations between crime labs and health departments to immediately test seized drugs and broadcast the results.
Death waves, understandable and preventable, come and go rapidly in the synthetic drug era, said Dennis Cauchon of Harm Reduction Ohio, which monitors overdose trends in that state. That's why Cauchon has complained about late public health warnings of fentanyl turning up in cocaine and methamphetamines, for example. Some warnings were sent to health agencies but withheld from the public. Such contamination, and an outbreak of deaths from carfentanil, an opioid 5,000 times stronger than morphine, seems to have triggered a spike in deaths last year in Ohio, he said.
Crime labs conducted those tests of seized drugs long after their dangerous contaminants had killed people, Cauchon added, too late to warn the public even if they had been broadcast.
Until an early warning system for street drugs arrives, handing out fentanyl test strips to drug users looks like a reasonable step, Fuentes said.
Agencies have all this data but keep it to themselves, and people continue to die, he said. If we can show people what they're using, at the very least we can show them how to use safer.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/danvergano/...EqD#.hugWpRNMG
On a Saturday night in April, 5 people died after overdosing on what they thought was MDMA after leaving a club. Speculation about the deaths pointed to fentanyl as the possible cause.
Widespread media attention has focused on fentanyl, a drug 40 to 400 times stronger than morphine, in street heroin. Now rumors are spreading that it is showing up in other street drugs including MDMA, ketamine and LSD blotters.
But why is fentanyl showing up in drugs like MDMA?
It could be the result of inadvertent contamination. Or it might be that to some dealers, high is high. Even if its not the effect buyers are looking for, dealers dont know, dont care or dont understand the risks of cutting their product with fentanyl.
As a society, its time to evaluate whether moral repulsion around drug use is worth the death and incarceration of thousands of young people. Its time to acknowledge people should have sovereignty over their own bodies and minds, and that many of these drugs are harmless when used safely. The ones that arent are made a thousand times worse by prohibition.
https://nowtoronto.com/news/why-is-f...street-drugs-/
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Dangerous drug carfentanyl found in LSD blotters
Health officials in Canada are warning the public about blotters laced with the potentially deadly drug, carfentanyl, a very powerful pain medication. Carfentanyl is 100 times stronger than fentanyl. Police discovered the blotters after a 59-year-old man was found in physical distress and a family member called 911 on Jan 23. He died three days later in hospital. They believe
the blotters also contained LSD and were purchased through an online black market supplier.
Spokesperson Genevieve Major said the carfentanyl discovered in this case is so potent that even touching the substance with uncovered skin can transmit the opioid into a users system. Canada's public health office is warning that carfentanyl is 10,000 times more potent than morphine and so powerful that even a tiny dose can lead to respiratory failure and death. Health officials say the drug could also be absorbed through the skin. As little as 2 milligrams of carfentanyl can lead to a fatal overdose.
Carfentanyl is so powerful and so fast-acting that it can easily lead to unconsciousness and death because an individual stops breathing. Officials say users may also not realize what they
are taking and may think they are using something else.
We want to let people know that this exists, that just touching this drug can be dangerous, said Evelyne Boudreau of the Laval police department.
People need to know about this. People need to know that if they think they're buying LSD, that may not be the case.
This is the first time fentanyl has appeared in blotters in the Montreal area, though not in Canada. Last year, Winnipeg police seized six blotters laced with carfentanyl that were designed
to look like childrens tattoos.
It is not for human use, it's like morphine but for elephants, said Boudreau.
The blotters found portray a man riding a bicycle on a green and red background.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/dangerou...aval-1.3801420
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People are using a $1 test strip to check their drugs for Fentanyl
Anything I put in me, I definitely want to know what is in it, a man, a heroin user in Baltimore once told a researcher. They are dropping like flies on this stuff.
This stuff is fentanyl, an opioid drug 50 times more potent than heroin. It is now the leading cause of fatal overdoses nationwide, killing about two people a day in Baltimore alone.
The man was part of a 3-city study last year in Baltimore, Boston, and Providence, Rhode Island that encouraged users to test their own drugs with a $1 fentanyl test strip that resembles a pregnancy test.
These people are going to be using heroin or other drugs, said one of the studys leaders, Susan Sherman of Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, at an April conference in Atlanta. Drug checking allows for them have information about what is in them.
Public health experts nationwide, mostly in big cities, are providing fentanyl test strips to drug users to let them test the drugs for themselves. Intended to test for fentanyl in urine, the strips also work in water mixed with a sample of a drug, revealing one red stripe for the presence of fentanyl and two stripes for none detected.
In the 3-city study, which has not yet been published, investigators first tested the accuracy of the strips in 210 powder and pill drug samples collected on the streets of Baltimore. The strips were far more sensitive, able to detect about fentanyl concentrations 100 times lower than the portable lab devices, the study found.
Then they asked 335 drug users whether they would want to use the strips. Overall, 89% reported fentanyl checking would make them feel more protected, and 84% said they were worried about fentanyl in their drugs. Three-quarters said they did not want fentanyl in their drugs, and many reported using lower doses or not using the drugs if they tested positive.
The real benefit of the strips is starting a discussion about the dangers of street drugs and how users can find addiction treatment, Brandon Marshall of Brown University, who was part of the study team, told BuzzFeed News.
The common idea that street drug users dont care whether they live or die is crazy, said Tino Fuentes, a treatment advocate who has tested bags of street drugs for fentanyl in East Coast cities and frequently gives users the test strips.
Dealers dont know whats in there, either, most of them. They dont want it, he added. They cant make a living by killing off their customers.
In a separate study of 242 drug users in San Francisco, researchers from the Drug Overdose Prevention & Education (DOPE) Project found a similar willingness to use the strips. About 68% of the strips collected in this study tested positive for fentanyl.
Test strips are just one tool to let people know what is out there, and they are a great conversation opener, overdose prevention expert Eliza Wheeler of the Harm Reduction Coalition told Buzzfeed News. The message is that there are strong, powerful drugs out there. So what does that mean for you??
The test strips do have drawbacks. Perhaps most important: They cant tell you how much fentanyl is in a baggie, which determines whether it is a deadly dose or just an incidental contamination.
Another problem is that fentanyl is distributed so spottily throughout the drug supply that even two baggies from the same dealer, with identical labels, can give different test results, Fuentes said. I tell people to always be cautious. Just because you get a negative result doesnt mean it isnt in there.
And although federal law doesnt prevent the sale of fentanyl strips to consumers, state laws in all but eight states: Alaska, Maryland, Nebraska, New York, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming make their sale potentially illegal, Adam Auctor of the Bunk Police, which sells strips to public health groups, told BuzzFeed News by email.
We'll be challenging many of these laws by selling kits that are designed to identify unknown substances for educational purposes this year, come what may, he said. Sales of his companys strips, called FentKits, are skyrocketing worldwide, especially since the New Year, Auctor said. Eastern and Southeastern states, he added, are definitely hotspots.
For now, more studies are needed to see if handing out test strips to drug users would truly help them in the long run, Marshall of Brown told BuzzFeed News. The strip can be confusing two stripes indicating no fentanyl is a counter-intuitive signal that has even confused study researchers at times, he said.
And although three-quarters of drug users seem to want to avoid fentanyl, the rest could use the strips to make sure they get more of it. But Wheeler is skeptical that this is a problem.
We have fentanyl sold as fentanyl here, and people are buying it. At least this way they will know what they are getting, she said.
A tactic borrowed from music festivals and raves, test strips are just one way to deal with one of the outstanding problems of the opioid crisis; people only learn about a fentanyl outbreak after a cluster of deadly overdoses triggers alarm. Turning to tests strips now reflects a deeper need for the authorities to start testing street drugs, and warning people about fentanyl in real time, say experts such as medical epidemiologist Dan Ciccarone of the University of California, San Francisco.
Surveillance is a foundational aspect of public health, Ciccarone told BuzzFeed News. That makes the current lack of information about street drugs in the midst of a historic epidemic of fatal overdoses, with more deaths now than at the height of the AIDS crisis two decades ago, all the more frustrating.
From March to June of 2017, New York health workers collected 271 used heroin needles and found that 1 in 6 was contaminated with fentanyl. Only two of the 46 people who had turned in those contaminated needles were aware they had used fentanyl.
Washington, DCs Department of Forensic Science has tested 75 syringes from overdose cases since January of last year and found 49% containing some form of fentanyl. Only a handful contained heroin, the illicit opioid drug that has plagued cities since the 1960s. The report mirrors the outsize role of fentanyl in the overdose epidemic reported in many states and cities.
A sensible street-drug monitoring system would rely on lab results, not fentanyl strips, Denise Paone of New York Citys Department of Health told BuzzFeed News, but the costs are prohibitive, at $300 a syringe test.
Damn the cost, said Ciccarone, pointing to years of health officials playing catch-up to overdose outbreaks only after people start dying. In his view, cities should start collaborations between crime labs and health departments to immediately test seized drugs and broadcast the results.
Death waves, understandable and preventable, come and go rapidly in the synthetic drug era, said Dennis Cauchon of Harm Reduction Ohio, which monitors overdose trends in that state. That's why Cauchon has complained about late public health warnings of fentanyl turning up in cocaine and methamphetamines, for example. Some warnings were sent to health agencies but withheld from the public. Such contamination, and an outbreak of deaths from carfentanil, an opioid 5,000 times stronger than morphine, seems to have triggered a spike in deaths last year in Ohio, he said.
Crime labs conducted those tests of seized drugs long after their dangerous contaminants had killed people, Cauchon added, too late to warn the public even if they had been broadcast.
Until an early warning system for street drugs arrives, handing out fentanyl test strips to drug users looks like a reasonable step, Fuentes said.
Agencies have all this data but keep it to themselves, and people continue to die, he said. If we can show people what they're using, at the very least we can show them how to use safer.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/danvergano/...EqD#.hugWpRNMG
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That's just disgusting to see someone laying Carfentanyl on Hoffman bicycle blotters...
What is wrong with those stupid greedy ignorant dealers? Oh wait, I just said it...
Thank you for warnings, mr peabody, I would never think fentanyl analogs would be found as Lucy blotters. Another reason to reagent-test and always do an allergy-test for each batch of anything you get!
What is wrong with those stupid greedy ignorant dealers? Oh wait, I just said it...Thank you for warnings, mr peabody, I would never think fentanyl analogs would be found as Lucy blotters. Another reason to reagent-test and always do an allergy-test for each batch of anything you get!
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^^
I hated posting that report. I mean, who wants to live in such a world? But if it saves someone's life, we have to do it. Of course it's mainly for people buying off the dark web or the street who have no idea what they're getting. Those very people (our people) frequent this forum, and it terrifies me.
To those people especially: Seriously now, how can you not have some of those test strips on hand?
peace and love
I hated posting that report. I mean, who wants to live in such a world? But if it saves someone's life, we have to do it. Of course it's mainly for people buying off the dark web or the street who have no idea what they're getting. Those very people (our people) frequent this forum, and it terrifies me.
To those people especially: Seriously now, how can you not have some of those test strips on hand?
peace and love
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Festival goers warned of high dose batches of ecstasy following deaths in UK
Festival goers have been warned there are high dose batches of ecstasy and MDMA in circulation.
The HSE has issued harm reduction information to people attending festivals following the tragic deaths of young people in the UK.
It said the use of psychoactive drugs in Ireland among the 15-24 year age group is the highest in Europe (22pc lifetime use, Eurobarometer poll 2014).
“Data suggests that the potency of most illicit substances is increasing and that the market for substances is becoming more varied and accessible."
“Serious adverse effects have been reported with MDMA recently including seizures, overheating and mental health problems in particular paranoia and psychosis.”
Dr Eamon Keenan, HSE Clinical Lead for Addiction Services warned: “We are aware that there have been deaths and hospitalisations at festivals in the UK recently associated with the use of illicit drugs. We are also aware that there are high dose batches of ecstasy or MDMA in circulation."
“With this in mind as the festival season begins, we want to make people aware of our harm reduction information around drugs. Harm reduction benefits people who use drugs, their families and the community."
“Think about your health and avoid using drugs if you experience mental or physical health problems. We would encourage people to look after themselves and look out for their friends. Talk to your friends if you decide to use drugs."
“Stay with your friends and do not leave anybody who is intoxicated on their own. If you are at a festival and you or a friend needs medical help, don’t be afraid to contact the welfare and emergency services. Always make sure when you arrive at a festival that you know where the Medical tent is located."
It is always safer not to use ecstasy/MDMA, but if you do:
1. Test dose a new batch – begin with a low dose pill
2. Wait at least two hours before using anymore
3. Some pills are cut with other drugs that take effect more slowly
4. When buying always know your source
5. Mixing drugs and alcohol can increase the risk of unwanted side effects
6. Stay with trusted friends
7. Stay well hydrated by drinking water and remember to eat properly
8. MDMA can make people sexually aroused - always use a condom
9. Chewing gum can help jaw cramps
10. Wait 4 weeks between sessions.
For more information and support go to www.drugs.ie or you can freephone the HSE Drug Helpline on 1800 459 459.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...-ecstasy-following-deaths-in-uk-36968935.html
Festival goers have been warned there are high dose batches of ecstasy and MDMA in circulation.
The HSE has issued harm reduction information to people attending festivals following the tragic deaths of young people in the UK.
It said the use of psychoactive drugs in Ireland among the 15-24 year age group is the highest in Europe (22pc lifetime use, Eurobarometer poll 2014).
“Data suggests that the potency of most illicit substances is increasing and that the market for substances is becoming more varied and accessible."
“Serious adverse effects have been reported with MDMA recently including seizures, overheating and mental health problems in particular paranoia and psychosis.”
Dr Eamon Keenan, HSE Clinical Lead for Addiction Services warned: “We are aware that there have been deaths and hospitalisations at festivals in the UK recently associated with the use of illicit drugs. We are also aware that there are high dose batches of ecstasy or MDMA in circulation."
“With this in mind as the festival season begins, we want to make people aware of our harm reduction information around drugs. Harm reduction benefits people who use drugs, their families and the community."
“Think about your health and avoid using drugs if you experience mental or physical health problems. We would encourage people to look after themselves and look out for their friends. Talk to your friends if you decide to use drugs."
“Stay with your friends and do not leave anybody who is intoxicated on their own. If you are at a festival and you or a friend needs medical help, don’t be afraid to contact the welfare and emergency services. Always make sure when you arrive at a festival that you know where the Medical tent is located."
It is always safer not to use ecstasy/MDMA, but if you do:
1. Test dose a new batch – begin with a low dose pill
2. Wait at least two hours before using anymore
3. Some pills are cut with other drugs that take effect more slowly
4. When buying always know your source
5. Mixing drugs and alcohol can increase the risk of unwanted side effects
6. Stay with trusted friends
7. Stay well hydrated by drinking water and remember to eat properly
8. MDMA can make people sexually aroused - always use a condom
9. Chewing gum can help jaw cramps
10. Wait 4 weeks between sessions.
For more information and support go to www.drugs.ie or you can freephone the HSE Drug Helpline on 1800 459 459.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-ne...-ecstasy-following-deaths-in-uk-36968935.html
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Cartoon dystopia: 25I-NBOMe and why you should test your LSD
When I took what I thought was LSD in a forested park, I had no idea I would end up hospitalized and experiencing the dimmest sense of hopelessness I’ve ever lived through. I didn’t know that I would enter a world where everything I interacted with was a macabre, illogical cartoon. I didn’t know that instead of the healing from a heart-shattering breakup I anticipated, I would hallucinate myself being shot, repeatedly, in front of a group of my loved ones. I didn’t know that what I’d taken was probably not LSD, but a research chemical — likely 25I-NBOMe.
25I-NBOMe is a designer drug that has only been around since 2010. Reporting on traumatic or negative experiences, hospitalizations, and deaths has been spotty at best, but it has been clearly linked to multiple instances of all three. From all accounts, though, its potential harm is still seemingly underestimated. Comparisons to LSD typically don’t factor into account that LSD — while often a difficult and emotional undertaking that can, in high doses and/or sensitive users, induce psychosis-like states — does not typically alter reality so fundamentally that users inhabit a new world of disjointed, dark illogic beyond the realm of explainable phenomena.
Until I researched it after being released from the hospital, I didn’t even know 25I-NBOMe existed. Like the vast majority of psychonauts taking consciousness-altering substances, I didn’t use a chemical reagent to verify I was taking LSD, even though I had been active in harm reduction work for three years prior and was aware of testing kits.
While fentanyl is rightfully given the brunt of media and academic attention due to its presence in over 20,000 yearly deaths, there are risks to taking any unregulated substance in the continued age of prohibition.
I knew within an hour of ingestion that what I’d taken was not LSD. As a relatively experienced user of psychedelics, there were clear differences between those experiences and this cartoon-ish trip.
Without a chance to test the substance after the fact, I don’t know definitively that what I took was 25I-NBOMe. The overwhelmingly negative effects, cartoon-ish landscape, color tinting, and visual drifting I experienced have also been reported by others who have taken similar research chemicals like 2C-P, 2C-E, and 25x-NBOMe. While they overlap considerably in effects, however, 25I-NBOMe is increasingly one of the most common substances passed off as LSD.
The medical professionals who took care of me in the ER incorrectly told my family that I had been admitted for an “overdose,” and didn’t question the possibility that the substance I took could be laced. Mainstream medical communities have very little knowledge of psychedelics or emerging research chemicals, and I was lectured by every single provider before my discharge. Considering the number of drug-induced medical emergencies they must encounter, I don’t blame them, but it was the last thing I needed to hear in the state I was in.
For a different person, this horror story might be an excellent anecdote for D.A.R.E. propaganda about the inherently destructive nature of drugs and the fundamental irresponsibility of users. In this instance, I admittedly paid very little attention to harm reduction measures that might have saved me a hospital visit — most importantly testing my substance. But, also taking a smaller dose at first (I took one tab, which of course is often only a rough estimate of dosage) or having a trip sitter who might have grounded me more in reality when I was spinning out of control. I was irresponsible, and my experience was a wake-up call about how harmful substances really can be in certain settings.
Despite that, I couldn’t square any of the D.A.R.E.-type propaganda I’d been taught with the overwhelmingly euphoric and often transcendental experiences I’ve had on psychedelics. People take (and will always take) substances for a variety of reasons (recreational, spiritual, medicinal, therapeutic, etc.), and psychedelics in particular have had life-changing impacts on my own mental health and the mental health of millions of other users. Education programs and access to universal, quality healthcare would help reduce demand, but it would not end it.
After realizing I was internalizing the misinformation, scare tactics, and shaming that dominate contemporary drug education, I became angry. Criminalization is, primarily, what makes substance use harms catalyze so exponentially every year.
At 245.8 deaths per million people, the United States overwhelmingly leads the world in overdose death rates. This is starkly contrasted by countries like Portugal (which decriminalized all drugs in 2001), where only 3 citizens per million people die of an overdose each year. Criminalization is what made my substance type and dosage so unclear and, arguably, what perpetuated the mass production of research chemicals like 25I-NBOMe passed off as LSD, as suggested by the founders of the harm reduction and drug information website Erowid.org in this Reddit AMA.
There are many steps I could have taken to reduce my risk of entering a cartoonish hell populated by attack dogs, President Trump (that is one bizarre reality that my trip correctly predicted an entire year before the 2016 election), evil forest entities, and me, dying, in a perpetual loop in front of my loved ones. Stories like mine would be drastically reduced through measures like full drug decriminalization, legalization of psychedelics within therapeutic settings, universal access to quality healthcare, and the normalization of harm reduction as a fundamental pillar of drug education.
That’s my vision for the future. In the meantime, while bureaucratic government officials drag their feet on safer consumption spaces and the Affordable Care Act is perpetually at risk of being even further gutted, I think it’s essential that we have honest conversations about drug use and harm reduction that includes perspectives on the potential dangers of research chemicals like 25I-NBOMe, as well as how to keep each other safe.
https://www.psymposia.com/magazine/cartoon-dystopia-25i-nbome-and-why-you-should-test-your-lsd/
When I took what I thought was LSD in a forested park, I had no idea I would end up hospitalized and experiencing the dimmest sense of hopelessness I’ve ever lived through. I didn’t know that I would enter a world where everything I interacted with was a macabre, illogical cartoon. I didn’t know that instead of the healing from a heart-shattering breakup I anticipated, I would hallucinate myself being shot, repeatedly, in front of a group of my loved ones. I didn’t know that what I’d taken was probably not LSD, but a research chemical — likely 25I-NBOMe.
25I-NBOMe is a designer drug that has only been around since 2010. Reporting on traumatic or negative experiences, hospitalizations, and deaths has been spotty at best, but it has been clearly linked to multiple instances of all three. From all accounts, though, its potential harm is still seemingly underestimated. Comparisons to LSD typically don’t factor into account that LSD — while often a difficult and emotional undertaking that can, in high doses and/or sensitive users, induce psychosis-like states — does not typically alter reality so fundamentally that users inhabit a new world of disjointed, dark illogic beyond the realm of explainable phenomena.
Until I researched it after being released from the hospital, I didn’t even know 25I-NBOMe existed. Like the vast majority of psychonauts taking consciousness-altering substances, I didn’t use a chemical reagent to verify I was taking LSD, even though I had been active in harm reduction work for three years prior and was aware of testing kits.
While fentanyl is rightfully given the brunt of media and academic attention due to its presence in over 20,000 yearly deaths, there are risks to taking any unregulated substance in the continued age of prohibition.
I knew within an hour of ingestion that what I’d taken was not LSD. As a relatively experienced user of psychedelics, there were clear differences between those experiences and this cartoon-ish trip.
Without a chance to test the substance after the fact, I don’t know definitively that what I took was 25I-NBOMe. The overwhelmingly negative effects, cartoon-ish landscape, color tinting, and visual drifting I experienced have also been reported by others who have taken similar research chemicals like 2C-P, 2C-E, and 25x-NBOMe. While they overlap considerably in effects, however, 25I-NBOMe is increasingly one of the most common substances passed off as LSD.
The medical professionals who took care of me in the ER incorrectly told my family that I had been admitted for an “overdose,” and didn’t question the possibility that the substance I took could be laced. Mainstream medical communities have very little knowledge of psychedelics or emerging research chemicals, and I was lectured by every single provider before my discharge. Considering the number of drug-induced medical emergencies they must encounter, I don’t blame them, but it was the last thing I needed to hear in the state I was in.
For a different person, this horror story might be an excellent anecdote for D.A.R.E. propaganda about the inherently destructive nature of drugs and the fundamental irresponsibility of users. In this instance, I admittedly paid very little attention to harm reduction measures that might have saved me a hospital visit — most importantly testing my substance. But, also taking a smaller dose at first (I took one tab, which of course is often only a rough estimate of dosage) or having a trip sitter who might have grounded me more in reality when I was spinning out of control. I was irresponsible, and my experience was a wake-up call about how harmful substances really can be in certain settings.
Despite that, I couldn’t square any of the D.A.R.E.-type propaganda I’d been taught with the overwhelmingly euphoric and often transcendental experiences I’ve had on psychedelics. People take (and will always take) substances for a variety of reasons (recreational, spiritual, medicinal, therapeutic, etc.), and psychedelics in particular have had life-changing impacts on my own mental health and the mental health of millions of other users. Education programs and access to universal, quality healthcare would help reduce demand, but it would not end it.
After realizing I was internalizing the misinformation, scare tactics, and shaming that dominate contemporary drug education, I became angry. Criminalization is, primarily, what makes substance use harms catalyze so exponentially every year.
At 245.8 deaths per million people, the United States overwhelmingly leads the world in overdose death rates. This is starkly contrasted by countries like Portugal (which decriminalized all drugs in 2001), where only 3 citizens per million people die of an overdose each year. Criminalization is what made my substance type and dosage so unclear and, arguably, what perpetuated the mass production of research chemicals like 25I-NBOMe passed off as LSD, as suggested by the founders of the harm reduction and drug information website Erowid.org in this Reddit AMA.
There are many steps I could have taken to reduce my risk of entering a cartoonish hell populated by attack dogs, President Trump (that is one bizarre reality that my trip correctly predicted an entire year before the 2016 election), evil forest entities, and me, dying, in a perpetual loop in front of my loved ones. Stories like mine would be drastically reduced through measures like full drug decriminalization, legalization of psychedelics within therapeutic settings, universal access to quality healthcare, and the normalization of harm reduction as a fundamental pillar of drug education.
That’s my vision for the future. In the meantime, while bureaucratic government officials drag their feet on safer consumption spaces and the Affordable Care Act is perpetually at risk of being even further gutted, I think it’s essential that we have honest conversations about drug use and harm reduction that includes perspectives on the potential dangers of research chemicals like 25I-NBOMe, as well as how to keep each other safe.
https://www.psymposia.com/magazine/cartoon-dystopia-25i-nbome-and-why-you-should-test-your-lsd/
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Great addition again, mr peabody! :D
I totally agree on decriminalization! Countries that did it show dramatic drop of drug related criminal activity and ODs. States that legalized marijuana only benefiting from it in so many ways. And whats interesting, when something is absolutely legal there is no counter culture movement by taking drugs with younger generation because it can't be counter culture anymore being legal. So kids have less desire to take drugs because they now become tools and come with known side-effects.
Knowledge is the key, and having government taking steps towards decriminalization of EVERYTHING will push away all the dirty scumbag drug dealers with their stupid myths (that are clouding normal judgement of young and easily impressed teenagers) and absolute lack of knowledge on the subject or respect for their "customers".
A lot of people enjoy taking drugs and they will continue doing so until they fulfill whatever needs to be fulfilled. Why won't we try making it safer for everyone? And there will be plenty of money to be made absolutely legally, plenty of jobs would be provided. Actually I read some studies that show drug craving relief for "junkies" when they were allowed to participate in drug preparation or analysis.
As for NBOMe blotters - if you dont know what's on the paper, do not jam the whole thing in your mouth, don't be stupid! Try a very little piece of it first if you dont have a testing kit. Always do an allergy test with every new substance you are going to try!
NBOMes and NBOHs are recognizably bitter and numbing when held in mouth. LSD and their analogs are almost tastless, except for the paper and ink taste.
Recently came across some PEZ candies with supposedly LSD in them. Proved to be DOx chemical, most likely DOM. Always be careful guys!
I totally agree on decriminalization! Countries that did it show dramatic drop of drug related criminal activity and ODs. States that legalized marijuana only benefiting from it in so many ways. And whats interesting, when something is absolutely legal there is no counter culture movement by taking drugs with younger generation because it can't be counter culture anymore being legal. So kids have less desire to take drugs because they now become tools and come with known side-effects.
Knowledge is the key, and having government taking steps towards decriminalization of EVERYTHING will push away all the dirty scumbag drug dealers with their stupid myths (that are clouding normal judgement of young and easily impressed teenagers) and absolute lack of knowledge on the subject or respect for their "customers".
A lot of people enjoy taking drugs and they will continue doing so until they fulfill whatever needs to be fulfilled. Why won't we try making it safer for everyone? And there will be plenty of money to be made absolutely legally, plenty of jobs would be provided. Actually I read some studies that show drug craving relief for "junkies" when they were allowed to participate in drug preparation or analysis.
As for NBOMe blotters - if you dont know what's on the paper, do not jam the whole thing in your mouth, don't be stupid! Try a very little piece of it first if you dont have a testing kit. Always do an allergy test with every new substance you are going to try!
NBOMes and NBOHs are recognizably bitter and numbing when held in mouth. LSD and their analogs are almost tastless, except for the paper and ink taste.
Recently came across some PEZ candies with supposedly LSD in them. Proved to be DOx chemical, most likely DOM. Always be careful guys!
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This fits well with one of the more contemporary theories of addiction where it is hypothesized that it is the "idea of drugs" that a person is addicted to, rather than the drug itself.
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Why is fentanyl showing up in LSD, meth and cocaine?
The opioid epidemic is infecting the wider world of drugs.
The super powerful, addictive and deadly opioids fentanyl and carfentanil are killing thousands of people who are hooked on the warm, nodding high of these heroin-like drugs.
But these drugs are now occasionally fucking with people who aren't trying to do opioids, people who are trying to feel the wavy beauty of LSD. Or the exuberant euphoria of cocaine. Or the energetic focus of meth.
On acid tabs handed out at a concert this weekend in Chicago, fentanyl was found, according to a post on Facebook and conversations with two people who were there. Twelve people were hauled out of the show, a concert goer told Rooster, two are in critical condition.
It scared Leah Bartolotta, who attended the Bassnectar concert, as security guards rushed by her escorting a sick person out.
It wasn't just that one show. Acid laced with fentanyl, which is a drug 50 times stronger than heroin, is a real thing, authorities confirm.
In Quebec late last month, cops said they seized blotter paper that looks like acid but which contains carfentanil. Carfentanil is a cousin of fentanyl, but 100 times as powerful. An amount the size of a coarse grain of salt can kill you.
"This is particularly concerning because this sample was on blotter containing the famous ‘Albert Hofmann Bicycle Ride' print, which has been used to distribute LSD for decades," says Dancesafe, a goer-trusted company that tests drugs on site at concerts and festivals.
"Thirty-, 40- and 50-year-olds are celebrating their big birthday with a line of cocaine and keeling over," NPR reported last week. "And regular cocaine users report feeling the expected rush and then falling asleep."
And, just this afternoon, Dancesafe reported that fentanyl was found in meth in Portland.
Finding fentanyl in cocaine, meth or LSD is very rare, according to experts.
It should stay rare, because it doesn't make any sense. Charts teach you which drugs enhance the feelings of other drugs, and therefore are cool to mix. (MDMA and mushrooms is a popular one.) But fentanyl/carfentanil plus cocaine/LSD is a baffling combination of drugs, a real pharmaceutical head-scratcher.
See, fentanyl is a downer. It slows your heart and your thinking. Cocaine speeds them up.
Fentanyl dims the world. LSD brightens it.
It's like making someone a Cobb salad and then topping it with ninja throwing stars. Ninja throwing stars have their place — but in a Cobb salad they'll cut the shit out of your lip.
So why is this happening? People who know the drug scene have given Rooster a few theories.
It might be an accident, a mistake; drug labs aren't always the tidiest places, and the tiniest speck of carfentanil, misplaced, is like a wrecking ball.
It might be a shady's dealer's tactic to get folks hooked on drugs who aren't very savvy about drugs; put fent in your "LSD," maybe someone thinks LSD makes you feel happy, warm and dopey, and suddenly wants to do more of your "LSD."
It might just be deliberate, old school, misanthropic fuckery, happening for the same reason folks shoot up high schools, troll rape survivors on Twitter and take a shit in their neighbor's barbecue grill: they are motherless sociopaths.
As always, the advice is to know your drugs at least as well as you know your coffee or free-range chicken. Know your supplier, try to meet the chemist, test very small amounts before bathing your brain in unknown molecules, or use the darknet and read reviews.
Dancesafe recommends testing your drugs. They sell fentanyl test strips for as little as $2.
Who thought you'd have to test your LSD for fentanyl?
https://www.therooster.com/blog/why...and-carfentanil-showing-up-in-cocaine-and-lsd
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Low-price test strips that detect fentanyl in street drugs could pervent fatal overdoses
The cost of the strips is about $1 each.
"We are at a pivotal moment in the overdose epidemic, and we need to embrace the full range of interventions that can save lives," says Susan Sherman, professor of health, behavior, and society at Johns Hopkins University. "Our findings bring to the table evidence that can inform a public health approach to the fentanyl crisis. Smart strategies that reduce harm can save lives."
Fentanyl is one of the most potent forms of opioid, a class of drug that also includes heroin, morphine, and some prescription pain relievers. In recent years, fentanyl has often been laced into street drugs and sold to users as something else. The deception makes it difficult for buyers to know the potency of their drugs and, therefore, the potential for overdoses.
In 2016, overdoses claimed more than 64,000 lives in the United States, and indications are that the 2017 numbers will be even larger. Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine, is the primary cause of the rapid increase in overdose deaths, and responsible for approximately 20,000 of the 2016 overdose deaths.
Fentanyl and its associated analogues have been found mixed with heroin and cocaine, and even in counterfeit prescription drugs.
Researchers conducted their study in three phases. First, they assessed the ability of three drug-checking technologies to detect fentanyl in street drug samples. In addition to the strip tests, the study assessed machines that use Raman spectroscopy and Fourier-transform infrared spectroscopy.
The tests took place in lab settings and compared results from all three technologies to those from a gas chromatograph/mass spectrometer. For each technology, the lab testing checked the ability to detect fentanyl, the lowest concentration that could be detected, and the ability to determine when a sample had no fentanyl. They used street drug samples provided by the Baltimore and Providence police departments. The test strips had the lowest detection limit and the highest rates of sensitivity and specificity.
In the study's second phase, researchers surveyed 335 people who use drugs in Baltimore, Providence, and Boston; 84 percent were concerned that the drugs they use contain fentanyl, and only about one in four stated a preference for drugs with fentanyl.
Survey participants generally felt that drug checking is important for overdose prevention; 89 percent said checking would make them feel better about protecting themselves from overdose. Seventy percent said knowing drugs contained fentanyl would change their behavior. They might not use the drugs, might use them more slowly, might use the drugs with people who have the naloxone overdose antidote, or might change their drug-buying behaviors.
The study's third phase consisted of interviews with 32 key people from organizations that work with drug users. The interviewees overwhelmingly supported drug checking, to provide users with information to keep themselves safe and to provide another potential point of engagement to help those people access services. They also had questions, however, about the logistics and legality of a drug-checking program.
Sherman worked on the study with Traci Green, senior research scientist at Rhode Island Hospital and associate professor of emergency medicine and epidemiology at Brown University.
The Bloomberg American Health Initiative supported the study. Results were released in advance of journal publication because of the urgency of the fentanyl overdose crisis, the researchers say.
Source: Johns Hopkins University
The opioid epidemic is infecting the wider world of drugs.
The super powerful, addictive and deadly opioids fentanyl and carfentanil are killing thousands of people who are hooked on the warm, nodding high of these heroin-like drugs.
But these drugs are now occasionally fucking with people who aren't trying to do opioids, people who are trying to feel the wavy beauty of LSD. Or the exuberant euphoria of cocaine. Or the energetic focus of meth.
On acid tabs handed out at a concert this weekend in Chicago, fentanyl was found, according to a post on Facebook and conversations with two people who were there. Twelve people were hauled out of the show, a concert goer told Rooster, two are in critical condition.
It scared Leah Bartolotta, who attended the Bassnectar concert, as security guards rushed by her escorting a sick person out.
It wasn't just that one show. Acid laced with fentanyl, which is a drug 50 times stronger than heroin, is a real thing, authorities confirm.
In Quebec late last month, cops said they seized blotter paper that looks like acid but which contains carfentanil. Carfentanil is a cousin of fentanyl, but 100 times as powerful. An amount the size of a coarse grain of salt can kill you.
"This is particularly concerning because this sample was on blotter containing the famous ‘Albert Hofmann Bicycle Ride' print, which has been used to distribute LSD for decades," says Dancesafe, a goer-trusted company that tests drugs on site at concerts and festivals.
"Thirty-, 40- and 50-year-olds are celebrating their big birthday with a line of cocaine and keeling over," NPR reported last week. "And regular cocaine users report feeling the expected rush and then falling asleep."
And, just this afternoon, Dancesafe reported that fentanyl was found in meth in Portland.
Finding fentanyl in cocaine, meth or LSD is very rare, according to experts.
It should stay rare, because it doesn't make any sense. Charts teach you which drugs enhance the feelings of other drugs, and therefore are cool to mix. (MDMA and mushrooms is a popular one.) But fentanyl/carfentanil plus cocaine/LSD is a baffling combination of drugs, a real pharmaceutical head-scratcher.
See, fentanyl is a downer. It slows your heart and your thinking. Cocaine speeds them up.
Fentanyl dims the world. LSD brightens it.
It's like making someone a Cobb salad and then topping it with ninja throwing stars. Ninja throwing stars have their place — but in a Cobb salad they'll cut the shit out of your lip.
So why is this happening? People who know the drug scene have given Rooster a few theories.
It might be an accident, a mistake; drug labs aren't always the tidiest places, and the tiniest speck of carfentanil, misplaced, is like a wrecking ball.
It might be a shady's dealer's tactic to get folks hooked on drugs who aren't very savvy about drugs; put fent in your "LSD," maybe someone thinks LSD makes you feel happy, warm and dopey, and suddenly wants to do more of your "LSD."
It might just be deliberate, old school, misanthropic fuckery, happening for the same reason folks shoot up high schools, troll rape survivors on Twitter and take a shit in their neighbor's barbecue grill: they are motherless sociopaths.
As always, the advice is to know your drugs at least as well as you know your coffee or free-range chicken. Know your supplier, try to meet the chemist, test very small amounts before bathing your brain in unknown molecules, or use the darknet and read reviews.
Dancesafe recommends testing your drugs. They sell fentanyl test strips for as little as $2.
Who thought you'd have to test your LSD for fentanyl?
https://www.therooster.com/blog/why...and-carfentanil-showing-up-in-cocaine-and-lsd
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Low-price test strips that detect fentanyl in street drugs could pervent fatal overdoses
The cost of the strips is about $1 each.
"We are at a pivotal moment in the overdose epidemic, and we need to embrace the full range of interventions that can save lives," says Susan Sherman, professor of health, behavior, and society at Johns Hopkins University. "Our findings bring to the table evidence that can inform a public health approach to the fentanyl crisis. Smart strategies that reduce harm can save lives."
Fentanyl is one of the most potent forms of opioid, a class of drug that also includes heroin, morphine, and some prescription pain relievers. In recent years, fentanyl has often been laced into street drugs and sold to users as something else. The deception makes it difficult for buyers to know the potency of their drugs and, therefore, the potential for overdoses.
In 2016, overdoses claimed more than 64,000 lives in the United States, and indications are that the 2017 numbers will be even larger. Fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine, is the primary cause of the rapid increase in overdose deaths, and responsible for approximately 20,000 of the 2016 overdose deaths.
Fentanyl and its associated analogues have been found mixed with heroin and cocaine, and even in counterfeit prescription drugs.
Researchers conducted their study in three phases. First, they assessed the ability of three drug-checking technologies to detect fentanyl in street drug samples. In addition to the strip tests, the study assessed machines that use Raman spectroscopy and Fourier-transform infrared spectroscopy.
The tests took place in lab settings and compared results from all three technologies to those from a gas chromatograph/mass spectrometer. For each technology, the lab testing checked the ability to detect fentanyl, the lowest concentration that could be detected, and the ability to determine when a sample had no fentanyl. They used street drug samples provided by the Baltimore and Providence police departments. The test strips had the lowest detection limit and the highest rates of sensitivity and specificity.
In the study's second phase, researchers surveyed 335 people who use drugs in Baltimore, Providence, and Boston; 84 percent were concerned that the drugs they use contain fentanyl, and only about one in four stated a preference for drugs with fentanyl.
Survey participants generally felt that drug checking is important for overdose prevention; 89 percent said checking would make them feel better about protecting themselves from overdose. Seventy percent said knowing drugs contained fentanyl would change their behavior. They might not use the drugs, might use them more slowly, might use the drugs with people who have the naloxone overdose antidote, or might change their drug-buying behaviors.
The study's third phase consisted of interviews with 32 key people from organizations that work with drug users. The interviewees overwhelmingly supported drug checking, to provide users with information to keep themselves safe and to provide another potential point of engagement to help those people access services. They also had questions, however, about the logistics and legality of a drug-checking program.
Sherman worked on the study with Traci Green, senior research scientist at Rhode Island Hospital and associate professor of emergency medicine and epidemiology at Brown University.
The Bloomberg American Health Initiative supported the study. Results were released in advance of journal publication because of the urgency of the fentanyl overdose crisis, the researchers say.
Source: Johns Hopkins University
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So you are saying there are people who intentionally do 25i? My knowledge of this substance is small mostly a warning one friend said One hit of 25i could range in potency from 10x-15x stronger than acid have longer lasting trips and possible psychosis.
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New batch of MDMA and ecstasy pills being made with potentially lethal chemical
New batches of fake MDMA and ecstasy pills are being found to contain the potentially lethal drug N-ethylpentylone.
Drug testing group The Loop have issued a warning about yellow ‘Super Mario’ pills found to contain the chemical being sold at UK festivals, which has caused deaths and hospitalisations among users in the past.
The Loop say the substance can cause paranoia and insomnia, while experts have outlined that it is three times as strong as MDMA, which could potentially lead to overdosing in people who take it in the same way they would MDMA.
One pill tested positive for the chemical at Boardmasters in Cornwall at the weekend, with The Loop saying that N-Ethylpentylone – also known just as Pentylone – was also detected in drugs sold as MDMA at Bestival.
he Loop tweeted the warning, saying: ‘Yellow Supermario pill containing N-ethylpentylone tested at #Boardmasters2018. May cause severe insomnia and paranoia. The pill was bought in Cornwall so more may be in circulation.’
The Loop’s director Fiona Measham previously told Metro.co.uk that Pentylone is about three times stronger than MDMA and kept some people up for 96 hours after taking it.
The Loop @WeAreTheLoopUK
Yellow Supermario pill containing N-ethylpentylone tested at #Boardmasters2018. May cause severe insomnia and paranoia. The pill was bought in Cornwall so more may be in circulation.
‘It looks the same and it smells the same as MDMA,’ Measham said.
‘At the moment it tends to be a problem with dealers selling this on site. And people don’t know until they try it.
‘There were people at Bestival who had been awake for three or four days after taking it.’
The substance looks identical to MDMA in crystal form and has similar effects at first but the high wears off more quickly which causes people to take more and more to chase a buzz that never returns.
Although users feel a quick euphoric high when they first take the drug, this can lead to three days of sleepless nights, paranoia and psychosis.
N-Ethylpentylone, which can also cause increased body temperature, anxiety and agitation, has also been in circulation in New Zealand and Australia, where it has been linked with deaths and casualties.
It is said to have similar qualities to PMA – another drug that is similar to MDMA but can kill at much lower doses.
What is PMA?
According to drug charity Frank, PMA is similar to MDMA (the chemical in ecstasy) and is sometimes sold as ecstasy.
However, PMA is more poisonous and can kill at lower doses than MDMA. Like MDMA, it can cause a fatal rise in body temperature.
The effects of PMA can a take a while to kick-in so there’s a risk of the user double-dosing to compensate, risking a fatal overdose.
In recent years there have been a number of deaths and hospitalisations linked to PMA. It appears those affected thought they were taking ecstasy pills containing MDMA and did not know that the pills contained PMA.
Mixing PMA with alcohol can have serious consequences – the effects of PMA are increased, making a user more likely to experience its negative effects.
Find out more here.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/15/new-...ade-with-potentially-lethal-chemical-7842842/
New batches of fake MDMA and ecstasy pills are being found to contain the potentially lethal drug N-ethylpentylone.
Drug testing group The Loop have issued a warning about yellow ‘Super Mario’ pills found to contain the chemical being sold at UK festivals, which has caused deaths and hospitalisations among users in the past.
The Loop say the substance can cause paranoia and insomnia, while experts have outlined that it is three times as strong as MDMA, which could potentially lead to overdosing in people who take it in the same way they would MDMA.
One pill tested positive for the chemical at Boardmasters in Cornwall at the weekend, with The Loop saying that N-Ethylpentylone – also known just as Pentylone – was also detected in drugs sold as MDMA at Bestival.
he Loop tweeted the warning, saying: ‘Yellow Supermario pill containing N-ethylpentylone tested at #Boardmasters2018. May cause severe insomnia and paranoia. The pill was bought in Cornwall so more may be in circulation.’
The Loop’s director Fiona Measham previously told Metro.co.uk that Pentylone is about three times stronger than MDMA and kept some people up for 96 hours after taking it.
The Loop @WeAreTheLoopUK
Yellow Supermario pill containing N-ethylpentylone tested at #Boardmasters2018. May cause severe insomnia and paranoia. The pill was bought in Cornwall so more may be in circulation.
‘It looks the same and it smells the same as MDMA,’ Measham said.
‘At the moment it tends to be a problem with dealers selling this on site. And people don’t know until they try it.
‘There were people at Bestival who had been awake for three or four days after taking it.’
The substance looks identical to MDMA in crystal form and has similar effects at first but the high wears off more quickly which causes people to take more and more to chase a buzz that never returns.
Although users feel a quick euphoric high when they first take the drug, this can lead to three days of sleepless nights, paranoia and psychosis.
N-Ethylpentylone, which can also cause increased body temperature, anxiety and agitation, has also been in circulation in New Zealand and Australia, where it has been linked with deaths and casualties.
It is said to have similar qualities to PMA – another drug that is similar to MDMA but can kill at much lower doses.
What is PMA?
According to drug charity Frank, PMA is similar to MDMA (the chemical in ecstasy) and is sometimes sold as ecstasy.
However, PMA is more poisonous and can kill at lower doses than MDMA. Like MDMA, it can cause a fatal rise in body temperature.
The effects of PMA can a take a while to kick-in so there’s a risk of the user double-dosing to compensate, risking a fatal overdose.
In recent years there have been a number of deaths and hospitalisations linked to PMA. It appears those affected thought they were taking ecstasy pills containing MDMA and did not know that the pills contained PMA.
Mixing PMA with alcohol can have serious consequences – the effects of PMA are increased, making a user more likely to experience its negative effects.
Find out more here.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/15/new-...ade-with-potentially-lethal-chemical-7842842/
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I don't get it. MDMA is soooo cheap and prevalant. Whats with these dodgy cock suckers pushing bullshit research chems ( i love them by the way, but NEP isn't 6apb) as MOLLY So fucking sad.
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Hey folks. In 2011/12 I took 72 supposed Lsd blotters, said to be 250ug up towards 350ug.
I had not taken any lsd or other drugs except cannabis since 2005 due to the development of long-term lyme disease and severe allergies.
The trips were extremely strong and lsd like. Visually extraordinary, but clear, colourful and bright.
However, they did taste awful. The people providing me were friends and very long term hippie and acid heads with decades of experience of taking genuine LSD much more experienced than myself at the time.
They were so adamant that these blotters were in fact Lsd 25, I accepted it.
I know lsd is tasteless, but I assumed some additional chemical was used to somehow "set/affix" the Lsd to the blotter.
Or just very toxic ink.
Either way, I had exremely bad physical allergic reactions to them. I am incredibly intolerant/reactive/allergic in some way to the vast majority of foods, herbs, supplements, remedies etc.
I am extremely chemically sensitive and reactice to toxic, man made substances. I know it was stupid to keep taking these blotters, but I was driven by such deep depression.
I took it 13 times- up to 17 in 48 hours. The very first one- November 18th 2011- was the classic Bicycle Day 25 tab blotters, with the moon.
Said to be 250ug Lsd 25. I took one blotter, gradual come up over 2 hours, increasing in intensity heavily into a full on trip. I was debilitated by the visual intensity of it. It was a 24 hour experience.
The Beatles specifically said after their first uses of Lsd in the 60''s, "it's a 24 hour experience."
The next day afterglow was amazing. It did absolute wonders for my mentality Outlook and emotions at the time and had an extraordinary positive effect on my depression and anxiety.
I felt extremely well happy and calm on all levels despite my allergic reaction to the blotter at the time.
The allergic reactions cause extremely bad stomach and digestive upset with extreme pain and also severe respiratory symptoms but I suffer these type of reactions to virtually every type of supplements, herb or healing remedy, however natural and beneficial.
But these reactions were very intense and severe and debilitating. That is the reason I was taking such huge doses up to 17 blotters in 48 hours, a total of 72 over 13 occasions in 9 months.
I found that if I took enormously high doses I was eventually able to elevate my consciousness above the physical plane and the physical side effects appeared to disappear for the remainder of the trip which would be very long lasting due to the High doses.
Eventually I could no longer handle these awful side effects on the come up and I abandoned this practice completely.
I did consider at the time that I may not have been taking lsd-25 but some alternative chemical although I was strongly assured by the others using these trips that this wasn't correct.
But I have been wondering since. I don't know what any of you guys would think about this? I am very open to the possibility that I may have been taking some Nbombe compound?
So just on this I have a question please for anybody? I mentioned the awful chemical bitter overpowering taste which was equally as bad as MDMA but I'm not saying it tasted like MDMA just to be clear.
But in addition to the taste these plotters had the most incredible overpowering chemical aroma which you could smell very strongly in the container long after it was emptied like months later.
Does this sound typical for these type of Nbombe compounds? This overpowering smell which is equally detectable or a long period after the bag or pot has been completely empty?
Because if it is not such a noticeable feature of these compounds to have an overpowering chemical smell, then what I was taking either was something else or possibly was lsd-25 with some additional strong chemicals used in the manufacturing process for some strange reason?
I would be very interested to hear anybody's thoughts and thank you in advance for any input.
I had not taken any lsd or other drugs except cannabis since 2005 due to the development of long-term lyme disease and severe allergies.
The trips were extremely strong and lsd like. Visually extraordinary, but clear, colourful and bright.
However, they did taste awful. The people providing me were friends and very long term hippie and acid heads with decades of experience of taking genuine LSD much more experienced than myself at the time.
They were so adamant that these blotters were in fact Lsd 25, I accepted it.
I know lsd is tasteless, but I assumed some additional chemical was used to somehow "set/affix" the Lsd to the blotter.
Or just very toxic ink.
Either way, I had exremely bad physical allergic reactions to them. I am incredibly intolerant/reactive/allergic in some way to the vast majority of foods, herbs, supplements, remedies etc.
I am extremely chemically sensitive and reactice to toxic, man made substances. I know it was stupid to keep taking these blotters, but I was driven by such deep depression.
I took it 13 times- up to 17 in 48 hours. The very first one- November 18th 2011- was the classic Bicycle Day 25 tab blotters, with the moon.
Said to be 250ug Lsd 25. I took one blotter, gradual come up over 2 hours, increasing in intensity heavily into a full on trip. I was debilitated by the visual intensity of it. It was a 24 hour experience.
The Beatles specifically said after their first uses of Lsd in the 60''s, "it's a 24 hour experience."
The next day afterglow was amazing. It did absolute wonders for my mentality Outlook and emotions at the time and had an extraordinary positive effect on my depression and anxiety.
I felt extremely well happy and calm on all levels despite my allergic reaction to the blotter at the time.
The allergic reactions cause extremely bad stomach and digestive upset with extreme pain and also severe respiratory symptoms but I suffer these type of reactions to virtually every type of supplements, herb or healing remedy, however natural and beneficial.
But these reactions were very intense and severe and debilitating. That is the reason I was taking such huge doses up to 17 blotters in 48 hours, a total of 72 over 13 occasions in 9 months.
I found that if I took enormously high doses I was eventually able to elevate my consciousness above the physical plane and the physical side effects appeared to disappear for the remainder of the trip which would be very long lasting due to the High doses.
Eventually I could no longer handle these awful side effects on the come up and I abandoned this practice completely.
I did consider at the time that I may not have been taking lsd-25 but some alternative chemical although I was strongly assured by the others using these trips that this wasn't correct.
But I have been wondering since. I don't know what any of you guys would think about this? I am very open to the possibility that I may have been taking some Nbombe compound?
So just on this I have a question please for anybody? I mentioned the awful chemical bitter overpowering taste which was equally as bad as MDMA but I'm not saying it tasted like MDMA just to be clear.
But in addition to the taste these plotters had the most incredible overpowering chemical aroma which you could smell very strongly in the container long after it was emptied like months later.
Does this sound typical for these type of Nbombe compounds? This overpowering smell which is equally detectable or a long period after the bag or pot has been completely empty?
Because if it is not such a noticeable feature of these compounds to have an overpowering chemical smell, then what I was taking either was something else or possibly was lsd-25 with some additional strong chemicals used in the manufacturing process for some strange reason?
I would be very interested to hear anybody's thoughts and thank you in advance for any input.
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In my experience the tell tale sign of NBome type substances is the horrible almost intolerable bitter, metallic taste. It remains for the whole trip no matter what. Any real and confirmed LSD I've had has been entirely tasteless, as have any LSD analogues.
It's always better if you test your compounds but seeing as this was 8 years ago almost, I'd just bet you were another victim of the NBome years between 2011-2014.
It's always better if you test your compounds but seeing as this was 8 years ago almost, I'd just bet you were another victim of the NBome years between 2011-2014.
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Thanks. Well the taste didnt exactly last that long. Only when taking and for a while after. That smell though, I will never forget it. Like really powerful, toxic perfume.