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LSD (1000+ug) - Experienced - The worst nightmare of my life

Excellent report. When you were talking about the fractal imagery seeming threatening, I could so imagine it... you want it to stop but it's just going on to its own pattern and you have no control.

Whenever I come up on most psychedelics, but especially acid, I get this anxiety that's stronger depending on how much I've taken. It took a long time to pin where it comes from. But now I know: it's the feeling of barriers being removed, and the awareness that throughout your entire life, your thoughts are in fact safely confined to a set pattern. Without the walls keeping your reality stable, anything can happen. A sensation can turn to unimaginable pain, you can thrash about in the void forever, totally unbounded and irredeemably insane. It's a terrifying feeling, but I've never taken enough for it to actually become a reality. I wonder at which point that truly starts to happen.

Though at the same time, it could be a beautiful experience. Kary Mullis's quote actually made me WANT to do this much acid. And I've always been curious about pushing the envelope, I'm one of those guys who just has to know what's out there. So, maybe one day I will. But I'm gonna build up to it, haha, not skyrocket my dose to a whole milligram with no warning or training to my poor brain. I've been doing hallucinogens for almost two years and there's still no way I'd go near a dose like that now, never mind with just 8 months down my sleeve!

I'm on the prowl for more extreme-dose LSD stories, especially ones as detailed and immersive as this one. If anyone has any others to share, or can link me to them (they're surprisingly hard to find in decent quality), please PM me, I'd really appreciate it. In a few months' time, I'm going to write a story, while on acid, about someone who takes an extreme, unknown dose of acid, somewhere between 800mics to 2.5mg, while I'll be taking somewhere from 150 to 350mics myself. The trip in my story will be a 'bad trip' like this one. I've never experienced acid at this level, and I'd prefer to go off my imagination than to simply recount an experience, so I don't plan on taking any very high doses before the experience. I've asked others who have eaten entire sheets or crazy crap like that, and their responses are usually frustratingly vague: "Yeah, it was pretty damn strong", and give little sign of enlightenment or any more than being really messed up.

So I appreciate a good report like this one.

You sound like it hasn't put you off drugs forever, but do you reckon you'll ever do a dose like this again?
 
Thank you so much for posting such a detailed report. It was extremely enjoyable to read. I use the word enjoyable because, whilst I haven't had an experience to that level, I have had two pretty intense experiences in the last few months and some of the things you wrote struck a chord. Thanks.

The first of these trips was with a couple of triple-dipped blotters and the most recent was with some 2-CE. Not very high doses but they hit me hard. I had a profound fear of death which the first trip brought squarely to my attention. This was given a very unpleasant twist relating to some rather upsetting revelations in the distant past of my personal life.

However, after taking the 2-CE and just drowning in the experience, I no longer fear death in an irrational sense. I'm going to take a significant break now and make sure I absorb these lessons. I hope you just go easy now and come back to everything when you're good and ready.

On another topic, and during the second trip, things got so intense that a friend gave me a benzo (and then another) - not something I usually go in for. It really helped. They act as something like a psychedelic sponge. If you get stuck into the literature on trip sitting and such, they tend to recommend not using benzos and trying alternative techniques. I'm firmly in this camp, but if things get too much and you just can't cope, then a benzo can be very helpful.

SSRI advice was pretty interesting ...
 
Thank you for sharing this, ive always heard stories like this (not in so much detail tho), ive never taken close to that much. I have always had personal issues and problems which has always scared me about taking to much, ill only drop (even a single tab or drop) when im in a solid straight state of mind without any drugs...but im happy you pulled a positive and learned from it
 
Awesome report, I've had some weird psychedelic trips but none as intense as this. Who knows a benzo might have calmed you down but then again you might have not learned the same lessons. I actually can't stand the anxiety associated with psychedelics by themselves, especially at a party with people drinking...that's the worst.
 
One perspective is that it is bad if the OP who experienced it rules it as bad. It's pedantic to invalidate the experiences of other people. Granted, emotions felt during the experience can relatively easily be recognized and classified like fear and sadness, it is still finally for the OP to put in perspective and weigh the pros and cons.

Another perspetive is that just like the effects of alcohol you cannot really say it's bad or good, since for example alcohol has both positive effects on the cardiovascular system in moderation and at the same time negative effects on entirely different physical or mental functions.

In the report there are both positive and negative consequences listed.

If it was anything like my life-changing experience it is ultimately irrelevant to try and classify as something as one-dimensional as a on a good/bad scale.
When you end up so differently, the whole perspective and paradigm shifts so much that it turns around the question to: bad respective to what/who/when?
 
Juse wanted to say this is the best and most insightful trip report I have ever read.

Minutes after I came back to earth, I realized that the purpose for human existence was to love. Love is our higher purpose. I now understood that the ego I had developed my entire life was an illusion all along. Our egos push us away from our ability to feel compassion towards others. As your ego fades away, you slowly dissolve into pure unadulterated LOVE. The illusion of separation created by our egos has been the root cause of suffering all across our planet, and sadly this is the reason the majority of the world kills each other for absurd purposes like religion and resources. Religions like Christianity hide behind the idea that there is an afterlife because they are afraid of death. There is nothing to fear, because when you die there is no “you” to fear anything. THE ONLY THING THAT SEPARATES US FROM OTHER FORMS OF LIFE IS OUR ABILITY TO THINK. Our ego is composed of our thoughts. When we stop relying on our ego, we cannot experience negative emotions. When we stop thinking, our ego ceases to exist, and then we can live a life of pure love, peace, and prosperity. The more we rely on our ego, the more we push ourselves away from the moment which is all. Nothing outside the moment we are in right now will ever exist. Yesterday never is, and tomorrow will never be. Time is infinite. The past, present, and future are all occurring simultaneously. We are merely observers. Free will is an illusion.

This was by far the most profound experience of my entire life.

I quickly forgot all of these things within 15 minutes of the peak ending. I didn't fully understand the lessons I learned for until months had passed after the trip.

This right here absolutely blew my mind. I hope you are doing well my friend. Thank you for this.
 
One perspective is that it is bad if the OP who experienced it rules it as bad. It's pedantic to invalidate the experiences of other people. Granted, emotions felt during the experience can relatively easily be recognized and classified like fear and sadness, it is still finally for the OP to put in perspective and weigh the pros and cons.

Another perspetive is that just like the effects of alcohol you cannot really say it's bad or good, since for example alcohol has both positive effects on the cardiovascular system in moderation and at the same time negative effects on entirely different physical or mental functions.

In the report there are both positive and negative consequences listed.

If it was anything like my life-changing experience it is ultimately irrelevant to try and classify as something as one-dimensional as a on a good/bad scale.
When you end up so differently, the whole perspective and paradigm shifts so much that it turns around the question to: bad respective to what/who/when?

Is there a physical health risk to taking as much LSD as the OP did?

If you're in a safe setting and healthy mindset and truly only have a concern over the physical effects on the body (and not mind) by a high dose of LSD, what should the concerns be?

Elevated body temperature?

Vasoconstriction?

Heart issues?

Lots of info on recreational doses it seems, tons of user replies to users doing doses under 500ug, but what about doses such as the OP? Or those over 1,000?
 
1000ug of LSD is not going to pose a physical danger. At extremely high doses LSD can kill through vasoconstriction. Someone was recorded as dying when they injected 300mg (300,000ug) mistakenly thinking it was meth or something. As far as I know it does not elevate body temperature.
 
1000ug of LSD is not going to pose a physical danger. At extremely high doses LSD can kill through vasoconstriction. Someone was recorded as dying when they injected 300mg (300,000ug) mistakenly thinking it was meth or something. As far as I know it does not elevate body temperature.

Thank you!
 
Whoa

How some people manage to keep their sanity after such trips I don't know. I would advise anybody considering taking SSRIs to do their homework well in advance. There is something called serotonin syndrome that comes from mixing drugs with SSRIs. I'm no expert on the topic and have read about it when researching other things but felt it was worth a mention. It is supposedly unlikely after one LSD trip but if it's even possible you want to stay away from it as it can be fatal. I think that is more common with molly. But again, do your homework. Don't just take somebody's word for it on a forum and casually try it yourself. I'm bipolar and have plenty of experience with SSRIs. You have to watch what you mix with them like all drugs but perhaps even more so. http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/serotonin-syndrome/basics/causes/CON-20028946 Your much better off with benzos. Kolonopin, Xanax, Valium etc would be a much better choice as it will make you not care so much about things. It's interesting how different all our trips are. I can smoke endless amounts of weed while frying and alcohol has no effect on me. They are both like buzzing flies in the face of Godzilla. It's great the OP got so much from his trip but you have to ask yourself is it really necessary to kick the shit out of yourself to make changes in your life? I mean being ass raped and attacked by dogs? Friends with demonic faces? Knife wounds in faces with blood all over? No thanks. I only took LSD once. That was enough for me and I couldn't tell you how long I fried for. Way too damn long. I can tell you that. Was around 10-12 hrs I think. Was back in the 80s. With LSD from a Grateful Dead show. Scored in the parking lot. And I only took a single dose. Since that was my first and only time I can only assume it was some potent shit. But I don't know. Perhaps I just wasn't ready. I know I felt like I was going insane while frying and that I could get stuck frying even long after the drug should have worn off. No more flirting with my sanity. I'll keep what little I have.
 
Yeah it depends on the individual. I wouldn't recommend those with existing mental instabilities like bipolar to try psychedelics, it's not worth the unbalancing effect they could easily have. For me, I'm lucky enough to not be afflicted by anything like that, and psychedelics for me have been wonderful. I've had my share of terrifying experiences but I always come out of them stronger.
 
Yeah it depends on the individual. I wouldn't recommend those with existing mental instabilities like bipolar to try psychedelics, it's not worth the unbalancing effect they could easily have. For me, I'm lucky enough to not be afflicted by anything like that, and psychedelics for me have been wonderful. I've had my share of terrifying experiences but I always come out of them stronger.
When you come out stronger is that you no longer have the bad experiences or that you were just better able to cope with them? I like many people always wonder if I took it again if I would totally have a different experience. I don't know that I could handle a bad trip now so I seriously doubt I'll ever do it again. The whole time I was frying I was overwhelmed by a feeling that I couldn't cope. Couldn't handle the intensity of the drug. I know people say there are much stronger psychedelics than LSD. I just can't imagine it. My mind was 100% blown. That was a constant feeling. Another question I have is why a person would ever need a stronger psychedelic than LSD.
 
Lucyfer. You are the fucking man. Jesus christ this is definitely one of the craziest reports I've ever read, and I've read a lot.

that part where you went to the white light-- I've been there on 30mg 4-aco-dmt.

the part where you realized the thing separating us from animals is the ability to think-- I've had that realization on DOC. I then elaborated that our ability to think comes from our ability to use language to form conscious thoughts rather than subconscious urges that influence behaviors.

I dream of taking 1000 mics one day. The main reason I haven't so far is the price. Hopefully mine will be less hellish than yours, last time I took 3 hits (allegedly ~300 mics) for a short period of time I was in a room full of people talking about gorey accidents they've been in and stuff yet it really didn't bother me much.

That Kary Mullis quote is awesome. I will be sharing that with people. Once again, you're the fucking man.

dont encourage behavior like this by saying you're the man. You seem to have the idea that more is better, when in fact , starting light and and no higher than normal dosing is always recommended on any drug. why would want want to mess themselves up, that doesnt make sense

you're an idiot if you dream of taking this one day. read the warning its beyond a near death experience.

If your taking that much LSD starting the trip off smoking marijuana is NOT a good idea. Even though marijuana with high amount of cannabinoids other than THC have other pharmacological effects like anxiolytic effects, the THC can over power that (like when you smoke a decent amount of high potency marijuana). Its best to always under dose marijuana on psychedelic trips because it can shoot up the intensity of the experience drastically as well as increase the potential for anxiety and paranoia during the experience. Also its best to wait until the trip is under way before you decide to smoke or not. The experience could have been more manageable if you waited until the peak to decide if smoking was a good idea.

Just some food for thought

or for that matter dont mix stuff only if your highly researched

This trip took place 7 months ago.
NOTE: I did not have a tolerance to LSD at the time.

It was a typical Saturday afternoon. A week prior, I had made plans with 3 of my friends to trip on some EXTREMELY potent liquid LSD we had picked up recently. I was given a serious warning from my dealer not to consume more than 3 drops. He sincerely claimed that the vial needed to have a warning label on it. His source had driven several hours to another city just to obtain the acid, because it was such a wicked batch. It was supposedly "barely diluted". Being my usual skeptical self, I decided I was going to ignore his advice and go balls deep to see what beautiful places my mind could take me to. My friends were very inexperienced with LSD for the most part; 1 friend (who will be called JAM) had tripped a total of 7 or so times, another (D) a single time (actually 2 days before this trip), and the other (KA) was dropping for his first time for his birthday. The day seemed all too perfect for anything to mess up, despite the fact that during this time in my life, I had had a myriad of personal issues and insecurities (that could possibly lead to bad experiences, but I didn't completely take that into account).


I'm honestly starting to get slightly uneasy even thinking about the experience I am about to describe.

Around 3:30 P.M., my friend (KY, he was sober) picked me up from my house. He was with D and KA, who were minutes away from consuming their acid. We drove to my other friend's house, where my personal stash of acid was sitting in the freezer. The LSD was dropped onto sugar cubes. Our plan was to drive to our friend JAC's house and enjoy the ride in a safe setting, while the people that opted not to trip smoked marijuana.

I walked into his house and saw a couple of my friends there. We briefly conversed and smoked a bowl of top-quality CBD-rich Sativa marijuana (an anti-psychotic chemical in marijuana that reduces anxiety) for a few minutes as a "way to ease me into my trip" (haha, yeah right, I believe this is what made the come-up so overwhelmingly fast). I pulled a whopping five sugar cubes out of the freezer and shoved them in my mouth, then licked a bunch of sugar crumbles off the foil which came from the edges of the 11 sugar cubes I had in my stash. My friends were a bit shocked I was willing to go that far, but they sort of already were used to my tendency to consume large quantities of psychedelic drugs. I talked with them for another 10 minutes or so, then I went back to the car. On my way to the car, I noticed I was starting to feel increasingly disoriented. It wasn't that euphoric, confusing sort of disorientation, it was more of a "I'm losing fucking my mind" sort of thing. I felt slightly anxious, but I assumed the negative feelings would pass as soon as the acid took full effect. A couple minutes after I got in the car, D ate 2 sugar cubes, and KA ate 1.

I suspect this was easily at least 1000 micrograms. I have consumed 100+ ug blotter that did not compare at all to this liquid. On a separate occasion, taking two of these was enough for a level 4 experience (hallucinations, ESP, OOBES)
The experience was about to get very, very ugly.

To give you guys a little perspective on the unfathomable effects of 1000 mic doses, here is a quote from the nobel prize winning chemist Kary Mullis that ingested 1000 micrograms for his first dose:

"When you take 1000 micrograms of LSD, you don't know you've taken anything. It just feels like that's the way it is. You might suddenly find yourself sitting on a building in Egypt three thousand years ago, watching boats on the Nile."

Yes, it is THAT FUCKING CRAZY.

Ten minutes into the car ride and twenty minutes after eating the sugar cubes, I was rapidly losing all touch with reality. I started wondering what the fuck was going on around me, and why I was feeling so uncomfortable. I started telling my friends I was really scared, and the intense anxiety was gripping every single fiber of my body. I thought I was going die and that this trip was going to last until the end of eternity. By the minute, I was starting to panic more. This was only the beginning of an unimaginable nightmare that would show me the "evil" side of LSD and completely change my opinion about the drug in general.

25 minutes after taking the sugar cubes, we arrived at JAC's house. By that time, I was stumbling all over the place and I was already having severe visual distortion. All movements were followed by strobing trails composed of detailed patterns, kaleidoscopes, and rainbows. These visuals that I would have usually considered beautiful were now viewed as a reminder that I was in the middle of a trip that I so desperately wanted to end.

When I got inside his house, I saw a few more of my friends sitting on the couch. My body temperature had elevated to the point I thought I was burning alive. I was completely out of my body and almost felt like I was on a high dose of ketamine. I felt embarrassed because I obviously looked like I couldn't handle my shit; maybe this was just an extreme amplification of my general self-esteem issues. Their faces were assuming demonic forms. I fled to JAC's room. I was already starting to experience ego loss. I was going in and out of consciousness.

This is the point where I lost track of time, so there is no point of trying to estimate anything....

JAC followed me to his room and did his best to comfort me and talk me out of my bad trip. It was a completely ineffective attempt. A couple minutes later, I started crying hysterically. Everything was getting darker. I fell into the most depressive state of my life, combined with the most acute sense of panic I've ever experienced. The floor was covered in spiraling kaleidoscopes that were rapidly shifting colors. I heard thousands of voices call me names like "pussy" and "bitch". The room wreaked of sewage and feces. This was the most negative emotion a human being could ever fathom. I so desperately wanted to kill myself but I was immobilized and unable to move. I realized that the voices were of all of the people I resented in my life the most. Cartoon blood was all over the ceiling and the walls. My vision seemed to stretch off into infinity. I was hallucinating so much I couldn't fucking believe it. I could see many different events of my life playing out as if it was waking reality. Try and imagine being inside of a Saw movie first hand, but a thousand times more horrifying and traumatic. There was a moment in which my mind would shoot out of my body two feet in front of me and then return into my body, and this looped over and over again for what felt like FOREVER at an impossible speed. Time was non-existent, and a second felt like FOREVER. Not hours, not days, but an infinite amount of time.

I kept hearing this bizarre futuristic noise that sounded like a computer glitching. The whole room was flashing as if something was flicking the on switch for a lamp up and down repeatedly. My jaw was rapidly vibrating like I had taken 300 mg of MDMA (I always get major jaw clenching from acid). I had full-blown synaethsia. Everything was one, everything was infinitely interconnected. I would look at the walls and become the walls. I would look at the floor and then become the floor, looking back at my body in a dissociative fashion. I was unable to differentiate any part of the outside world from my own physical body. The concept of "I" was now a mere construct of my mind, and "I" was nothing more than a complex bundle of atoms and molecules.

The floor started to wither away and die. It was as if it had human emotions and was feeling every bit of suffering I was going through at the time. Everything started to turn blood-red. I was going straight to the depths of hell. Matrix numbers were literally exploding out of the ground and shooting up and down the walls. I felt like I was on DMT, only it was a thousand times more intense.



Somehow, just a little while after this part of the trip, I regained some degree of consciousness. I stumbled to his backyard, where a group of 8 or so people were sitting and I was watching the sky and everything in my external environment turning black and red. I could barely see anything, my vision was almost completely shot. I forget that I even had a body at this point and I had absolutely no control over my muscular movements. I was in this "survival mode" where my mind was on autopilot and and I had no idea that I was on drugs. I lost balance and fell backward onto the ground. I continued to see more incredible vortexes of matrix- style numbers and letters spurt out from every direction.

During my friends' attempts to help restore me to sanity, they asked if I knew what time it was. I responded with "8:00 A.M." when it was late in the afternoon. That was quite enough of a response to prove I was completely and utterly going nuts and there was no real way to help me.


Once night fell, I was full-on peaking in JAC's room. I began to literally have no idea who I was, where I was, or what drug I was on (or what drugs were in the first place). I knew that I was going to die and nothing could be done to stop it. At some point at the beginning of the peak, I realized that I could not recognize the room I was in. Suddenly, I started seeing several cop cars pull into the room and put their sirens on. Yellow caution tape magically appeared around them as well. This was one of my worst nightmares coming to life before my very eyes. There was a line of already-arrested criminals in handcuffs next to the cop cars, and they were all complaining that I had snitched on them for some unspecified reason. I knew I was in for absolute hell. Before I could see what was going to happen next, everything started fading to white. I could see nothing but burning white light, like I was looking directly at the sun from 100 feet away. What I saw was.....the ultimate truth. The answer to every question. The reason reality is the way that it is. I existed within the past, present, and future simultaneously. I couldn't see my own hand in front of my face. I dissolved into infinity. I was existing in an infinite number of dimensions, living an infinite number of lives simultaneously for an infinite amount time. Though my memory of this is hazy, I believe I re-lived every event of my entire life during the peak. I could fit our entire universe into a period at the end of a sentence. Time was a point of nothingness. I was everything, yet I was nothing. I was in pure ecstasy. I felt the unconditional love of the universe penetrating every pore of my body. If only this could have lasted forever. I suppose this was a taste of the beautiful part of ego death, but my stay in this ineffable place was cut short when I was suddenly catapulted into hyperspace, where I experienced every ounce of pain any human being could ever possibly experience at one time. The love rapidly shifted to evil in its purest definition. I saw many miserable people I had seen throughout my life, including the homeless and starving. My brain's sensory filter was gone; every last bit of information that could physically be processed at once was flowing through my head at light speed.

I was dropped out of hyperspace directly into a hallucinatory prison facility. I saw hundreds of pitbulls, white supremacists, and naked black men running around. It was a state of sheer pandemonium. I have never been so unbelievably horrified in my entire life. I was now sure that this is where I would die. I was taken to the showers where I was bitten repeatedly by pitbulls and raped by the white supremacists and black men simultaneously. I was sobbing hysterically screaming for it stop. It was physical and emotional torture beyond your wildest dreams. I felt every single sensation, including their penises in my anus and the razor-sharp teeth of the vicious dogs.

Who knows how long this actually went on for, but eventually this torture ended and I was back in JAC's room. I saw all of my friend's faces covered in knife wounds and deep, bleeding cuts. Puddles of blood were all over the room. My joints were still in severe pain from the physical torture I had just experienced.

I looked at the clock, and it read 9:00 P.M. (or something along those lines).

Minutes after I came back to earth, I realized that the purpose for human existence was to love. Love is our higher purpose. I now understood that the ego I had developed my entire life was an illusion all along. Our egos push us away from our ability to feel compassion towards others. As your ego fades away, you slowly dissolve into pure unadulterated LOVE. The illusion of separation created by our egos has been the root cause of suffering all across our planet, and sadly this is the reason the majority of the world kills each other for absurd purposes like religion and resources. Religions like Christianity hide behind the idea that there is an afterlife because they are afraid of death. There is nothing to fear, because when you die there is no “you” to fear anything. THE ONLY THING THAT SEPARATES US FROM OTHER FORMS OF LIFE IS OUR ABILITY TO THINK. Our ego is composed of our thoughts. When we stop relying on our ego, we cannot experience negative emotions. When we stop thinking, our ego ceases to exist, and then we can live a life of pure love, peace, and prosperity. The more we rely on our ego, the more we push ourselves away from the moment which is all. Nothing outside the moment we are in right now will ever exist. Yesterday never is, and tomorrow will never be. Time is infinite. The past, present, and future are all occurring simultaneously. We are merely observers. Free will is an illusion.

This was by far the most profound experience of my entire life.

I quickly forgot all of these things within 15 minutes of the peak ending. I didn't fully understand the lessons I learned for until months had passed after the trip.


The next day was easily the worst day of my life (excluding the trip). I felt so self-conscious about myself that suicide was all I could think about. I was thoroughly convinced that I had ruined my life permanently. During ego death, I became aware of the severity of my many mental disorders. I realized that throughout my entire life, I had been looked down upon as the "special kid". I had not been aware of this until that moment. I felt like the most inferior form of life on the face of the earth.

After I got home I burst into tears. I even thought my family felt sorry for me and had pitied me my whole life because they thought I was a moron.

I had a psychotic break for weeks afterward. This was easily the most traumatic thing I have ever gone through in my entire life and has left a lasting mark on me that I carry to this day. It's been over 6 months now and I think about this trip every day of my life. It's nothing any human being ever deserves to go through and I would never wish it on my worst enemy.

Over time this trip has had a profound impact on all areas of my life, in both positive and negative ways.

Positive: I have very close friends now and rather than the "special kid", many people now view me as a very insightful and intelligent person. Before this experience, I had very, very few friends. I wasn't close friends with the ones mentioned in this report, but we chilled every once in a while. I now know what true friendship is. I meet new people all the time. I suspect I used to have a mild form of autism and this trip literally eradicated it. My entire family has mentioned multiple times that I'm a transformed person. I have fully developed social skills. I truly believe LSD is able to cure mental disorders and the scientific community needs to conduct research on this. I act normally now. I view everyone I meet as a part of my own consciousness, which lets me act much more empathetically. I've earned excellent grades at my community college and have grown tremendously - multiple people have commented that I'm an entirely different person. I've taken up buddhism and adopted a very spiritual lifestyle.

Negative: Several months ago, I was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder. I suspect I was already pre-disposed to this condition and the trip brought it out. I still have mental flashbacks nearly every day and have been scarred by experience. I frequently have nightmares about this trip. My thoughts can be very scattered and clouded at times. My thinking is very impaired on some days, but it's very sporadic. I've learned how fucked up our world is, and sometimes I feel that ignorance is bliss. Our society disgusts me. I think that the human race is a joke.


I am going say one thing: DO NOT take a high dose of acid unless you have a proper set and setting or it can turn into the worst nightmare of your entire life. 300 micrograms is more than enough to have a spiritual experience. 1000+ micrograms does not provide a near-death experience, it provides a BEYOND-death experience.


Heed my warning. Don’t make the mistakes I did. YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE. LSD is a seriously powerful drug and it has the ability to FUCK you like nothing you could ever conceive of. In fact, after this experience I firmly believe it is the most powerful drug known to the human race. I've smoked 150 mg~(approx) of DMT at once (7 consecutive enormous hits) and the intensity could not come close to what I described in this trip report.

Thanks for warning people to respect this stuff (or dont do it at all) reading that was scary. Obviously always respect doses of every drug, its common sense, yes?
 
Most LSD I've ever done is 1.2mg and it destroyed me. I don't relate to the OP who mentions that he was walking around and doing stuff. When I took that much LSD I couldn't move for a good 5-6 hours and my reality completely disintegrated. It's not that I was immobile it's that there was no frame of reference in the environment for relocating my physical body. It just didn't make sense. Not recommended.

I also did not experience hyperspace, or whatever. That's a DMT thing, not an LSD thing. Nor did I experience entities, demonic forms, etc. Again, that's DMT. On extremely high dose LSD, the level of fragmentation and deconstruction makes it impossible for specific forms to happen, IME. I've done upwards of 700ug of high quality LSD on about 5 separate occasions.

I honestly question the truth of the OP's story, or if it was indeed LSD.
 
I would agree that lsd is quite unique at high doses; it seems to have a slice of complete psychedelia in it. Most notably with visuals, there's frying/waving/shifting/morphing/seeing things misplaced and "extras," as well as significant audio distortions, supreme head fuck, thought loops and jumbled thoughts, time dilation, body high, etc. Basically the whole works, and all of it becomes intensified the higher you go. I can't be too sure of the dose because it was on blotter, but it should've been around ~400mcg, and even that was too much for me. It wasn't one of my terrifying trips, but it was overwhelming to say the least.

I couldn't imagine taking a whole mg or more, and I easily could have but I was never that daring with lsd. It's definitely not party-friendly or even fit for recreation at those sorts of doses. I mean, I've done my fair share of high dosing, but that's because I was trying to feel some semblance of a proper high. One other substance was an accident. I haven't actually tried super-high dosing in any other case. With lsd? Damn, I'm glad I heeded the OP's warning naturally anyway.
 
Most LSD I've ever done is 1.2mg and it destroyed me. I don't relate to the OP who mentions that he was walking around and doing stuff. When I took that much LSD I couldn't move for a good 5-6 hours and my reality completely disintegrated. It's not that I was immobile it's that there was no frame of reference in the environment for relocating my physical body. It just didn't make sense. Not recommended.

I also did not experience hyperspace, or whatever. That's a DMT thing, not an LSD thing. Nor did I experience entities, demonic forms, etc. Again, that's DMT. On extremely high dose LSD, the level of fragmentation and deconstruction makes it impossible for specific forms to happen, IME. I've done upwards of 700ug of high quality LSD on about 5 separate occasions.

I honestly question the truth of the OP's story, or if it was indeed LSD.

What you are describing about not being able to move the higher dose increases is true for me the closer I get to 1000 mcg, and a little above it. However, at around 1500 or more a sudden change happens and I begin moving around wildly for almost the entire peak. There does not need to be a frame of reference in the environment for relocating my physical body that makes sense to me because my body is simply doing on its own, on autopilot as the OP described. It is more like I just watch myself do it for most of the time, sometimes even from a third-person perspective.

Also, LSD can absolutely bring you to a space equivalent to, but not exactly the same as, DMT hyperspace. I also find that, like with DMT and mushrooms, this space becomes easier to reach with each successive attempt. The first time I ever had entities and fully immersive hallucinated scenarios on LSD was when I took over 1500 mcg for the first time, but after that I was able to get them again from closer to 1000, and then even lower than that. Now even around 400 mcg is enough to have me hallucinating people and animals and changing scenes all around me, though not as engaging as the high doses are still. The fact that the OP claims to have taken several very high doses in the past though leads me to believe that this sensitizing to its effects could reasonably be playing a role for him too.

On the other hand though, I think it's also worth considering that the OP's trip brought out his bipolar disorder. That can be hallucinogenic in its own right, and cause sensitivity to tripping. I have a friend with the same condition who has tripped nearly as hard as the OP described here on 200 mcg, though even that was a bit unexpected. However, it clearly can happen and does from time to time.

I would agree that lsd is quite unique at high doses; it seems to have a slice of complete psychedelia in it. Most notably with visuals, there's frying/waving/shifting/morphing/seeing things misplaced and "extras," as well as significant audio distortions, supreme head fuck, thought loops and jumbled thoughts, time dilation, body high, etc. Basically the whole works, and all of it becomes intensified the higher you go. I can't be too sure of the dose because it was on blotter, but it should've been around ~400mcg, and even that was too much for me. It wasn't one of my terrifying trips, but it was overwhelming to say the least.

I couldn't imagine taking a whole mg or more, and I easily could have but I was never that daring with lsd. It's definitely not party-friendly or even fit for recreation at those sorts of doses. I mean, I've done my fair share of high dosing, but that's because I was trying to feel some semblance of a proper high. One other substance was an accident. I haven't actually tried super-high dosing in any other case. With lsd? Damn, I'm glad I heeded the OP's warning naturally anyway.

"It's definitely not ... even fit for recreation at those sorts of doses."

Speak for yourself. =D I have yet to find a dose of LSD that didn't feel as blissful and therapeutic to me as any other dose. Even on 1500+ mcg the head trip only lasts a few hours like it always does, and then there's like a good twelve hours of that lucid, energetic, cognitive, hedonistic plateau afterward. Obviously if you just take a huge dose that you're totally unprepared for while hanging out with only somewhat good friends like the OP said he did then you may very well have a pretty bad time, but if you're ready for that kind of trip and you go into it knowingly and treating it like you would any other strong psychedelic experience, I really don't think there's much of a reason to fear it.

Also would have to agree with LSD being unique at high doses though.... I think something that gives LSD so much charm is the fact that you can take it to a level where on most other psychedelics you may be starting to feel a bit uncomfortable or overwhelmed, and with LSD you still feel silky smooth and you can just push further and further. I tend to think of it as a psychedelic that can be taken to the dream-like hallucinogenic level of a deliriant as its primary effect, as opposed to others which all give you a taste of that same space but always seem to become dominated by something else before they reach that same potential. A few others have seemed to come close to me, 4-HO-MET being a notable one with the level of visual detail and crispness, but so far for me it has failed to reach the same level of life or involvement with its hallucinogenic entities. To be fair though, most of what I have to compare LSD to is tryptamines which are known for being better for hyperspatial visions, as opposed to phenethylamines which I often hear a lot of good things about when it comes to the open eye experience. I can say that even DOC though seemed like it would be more in the head than in the world to me at higher doses, but I do hear that that one is fairly unique from many other phenethylamines as well....
 
Kaleida-Haha. That was too funny. No worries, the only person I speak for is MYSELF at all times, thank you.

I'm jk btw. All love. :)
 
What you are describing about not being able to move the higher dose increases is true for me the closer I get to 1000 mcg, and a little above it. However, at around 1500 or more a sudden change happens and I begin moving around wildly for almost the entire peak. There does not need to be a frame of reference in the environment for relocating my physical body that makes sense to me because my body is simply doing on its own, on autopilot as the OP described. It is more like I just watch myself do it for most of the time, sometimes even from a third-person perspective.

Also, LSD can absolutely bring you to a space equivalent to, but not exactly the same as, DMT hyperspace. I also find that, like with DMT and mushrooms, this space becomes easier to reach with each successive attempt. The first time I ever had entities and fully immersive hallucinated scenarios on LSD was when I took over 1500 mcg for the first time, but after that I was able to get them again from closer to 1000, and then even lower than that. Now even around 400 mcg is enough to have me hallucinating people and animals and changing scenes all around me, though not as engaging as the high doses are still. The fact that the OP claims to have taken several very high doses in the past though leads me to believe that this sensitizing to its effects could reasonably be playing a role for him too.

On the other hand though, I think it's also worth considering that the OP's trip brought out his bipolar disorder. That can be hallucinogenic in its own right, and cause sensitivity to tripping. I have a friend with the same condition who has tripped nearly as hard as the OP described here on 200 mcg, though even that was a bit unexpected. However, it clearly can happen and does from time to time.



"It's definitely not ... even fit for recreation at those sorts of doses."

Speak for yourself. =D I have yet to find a dose of LSD that didn't feel as blissful and therapeutic to me as any other dose. Even on 1500+ mcg the head trip only lasts a few hours like it always does, and then there's like a good twelve hours of that lucid, energetic, cognitive, hedonistic plateau afterward. Obviously if you just take a huge dose that you're totally unprepared for while hanging out with only somewhat good friends like the OP said he did then you may very well have a pretty bad time, but if you're ready for that kind of trip and you go into it knowingly and treating it like you would any other strong psychedelic experience, I really don't think there's much of a reason to fear it.

Also would have to agree with LSD being unique at high doses though.... I think something that gives LSD so much charm is the fact that you can take it to a level where on most other psychedelics you may be starting to feel a bit uncomfortable or overwhelmed, and with LSD you still feel silky smooth and you can just push further and further. I tend to think of it as a psychedelic that can be taken to the dream-like hallucinogenic level of a deliriant as its primary effect, as opposed to others which all give you a taste of that same space but always seem to become dominated by something else before they reach that same potential. A few others have seemed to come close to me, 4-HO-MET being a notable one with the level of visual detail and crispness, but so far for me it has failed to reach the same level of life or involvement with its hallucinogenic entities. To be fair though, most of what I have to compare LSD to is tryptamines which are known for being better for hyperspatial visions, as opposed to phenethylamines which I often hear a lot of good things about when it comes to the open eye experience. I can say that even DOC though seemed like it would be more in the head than in the world to me at higher doses, but I do hear that that one is fairly unique from many other phenethylamines as well....


Can you expand more on the 4-ho-met experience?

Maybe include what dose you took (relative to you, was it large, extremely large, etc), what was it missing compared to LSD, what it had or showed you, a trip report maybe?
 
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