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MDMA, Coke, and first time heroin.

tabsandcaps

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Alright lets try to fix this.

Met up with my friend around 830 pm and we walked around waiting to meet his friend to get some H. The excitement was killing me I just wanted to start the night up already.

I had 3 MDMA caps on me about 100mg each give or take a little bit. I have done quite a bit of ecstacy in my life but the "pure" molly crystals were pretty new to me. (It was white in color and almost chunky and shiny like, hard to explain but I haven't seen anything like it before, sorry for lack of info)

We got the shit and took a bus back to his apartment walking down to his room, as soon as we got down there I popped 2 caps wasting no time. He started to break off pieces of the heroin, (which i didn't take a good look at for some reason as when I first got there I had no intentions of doing the heroin and the thought kind of frightened me due to thinking I would get addicted the very first time I tried it lol) and preparing it to IV, which didn't really bother me. So i'm just kicking it around his room waiting for my roll to take on as I watch him start injecting himself and almost immediately slump down. I remember asking him if he was ok multiple times because it looked like he was asleep in his chair, even after him reassuring me multiple times that it was the nod and he was fine lol. So the roll went as expected typical MDMA.

We chilled there for a while, talking about things, chillin listening to music, which we were in almost complete disagreement about, ( I dont think someone on heroin and someone else on MDMA should hang out, it's not a good combination IMO) and after about 2 hours we went to the casino across his street which is located on an indian reserve, so smoking was aloud inside, which isn't as gross as it may sound the ventilation system in there is amazing, i thought he was lying when he told me at first because i couldn't smell ANY cigs.

After being there for a while and me having noticably more fun then him due to flashing lights and sounds we left, called a friend and got a gram of coke delivered. While waiting for the coke I broke half the cap open, sniffed half and popped half. We chilled a bit longer till the coke arrived.

I sniffed a line of coke and it enhanced my buzz a little bit, but it was very short lived it faded and with the coke fading took the MDMA away too, ( not fully or maybe not at all, but in my mind it was noticably weaker) So i just found myself doing more and more lines. He asked if i minded giving him a piece to shoot, (He didnt chip in on the coke) I said I didn't care and watched as he did it.

He told me that shooting coke was nothing like sniffing it and was alot more relaxed I didn't really understand how that could be but the curiosity was growing for sure. So after some more lines and chilling and the basics, I asked if he would shoot me up on some coke, because ive never done it before and was scared to miss a vein or do some serious damage, he asked if i was sure a few times etc, and I said ok.

So he started preparing my shot, i was feeling very anxious, not just because of the shot i was about to do and possible life changes that could concur, I was very anxious before, after mixing in the coke. So i tied up my arm not knowing what to expect.

A huge vein stuck out from the opposite side of my elbow, I dont know what it's called, I guess the forearm pit lol, so he stuck the needle in slowly, pulled out to draw blood and slowly shot me up. As he was doing it I didn't feel anything, I didn't know what to expect, he then told me to untie my arm so I did. Got a really weird rush, not what I expected AT ALL, I was relaxed, but a very very INTENSE relaxed, almost unomftorble. I paced around alot and just didn't know what to do with myself but felt alright.

After chilling on that for a while I developed a massive headache, it was about 4am so i don't know if it was from lack of sleep, the combination of drugs, or the constant music, but whatever it was it fucking hurt. I couldnt feel any pain on my body, not a pinch a slap in the face nothing, but this fucking sucked. So i told him i wanted to crash and do the line of heroin.

So I broke out the H, busted a line about the size of a small wooden match stick and sniffed it. Almost instantly I felt a warm comfortable feeling take over my body, my legs got heavy and i was having trouble keeping balanced, I didn't feel anything anymore, no coke, no mdma, no headache, nothing but the H. And fuck did it feel nice. I just sat there, music was playing but i didn't listen, he was talking and i was answering but I dont know what I was really saying, all I could focus on was how nice I felt, and how great it was. Unlike any other drug i've ever taken. I sat there on the bed leaned against a wall staring at a TV not taking anything in, and it was just great. After what seemed like a short time to me but time wise had been a decent while ( maybe an hour I cant exactly remember) it started to fade, the headache came back and i was getting tired, I took 2 advil and a vitamin my friend said would help relax my muscles and teeth clenching. The headache was still really bad and I was fucking freezing, I had a blanket over my head and my hand on myforehead over my eyes, one thing I did notice was how hot my head was, it was hot and uncomftorble to touch, it burned my head when my hand touched it and my hand felt like an ice cube on my head, but felt normal temperature to any other part of my body. I managed to fall asleep for about 2.5 hours. Woke up with no headache, and no comedown. Still felt pretty nice, my pupils were still huge. And that's about it.

we went on through the day and i just ended up leaving around 8pm. Overall it had its ups and downs, but it was a new experience for sure.
As much as i loved the H i don't feel like I need to do it again, and probably won't due to the cost (200 dollars went to that alone and lasted one night, all i got was a tiny line he shot the rest) And shooting coke, I have no desire to do it again, Maybe it's different on it's own but I didn't like the weird intense feeling, I just didn't know what to do with myself.

This is 2 days later and the comedown has been fine, worked almost 9 hours today perfectly, don't feel depressed or anything, I'm eating fine now.

Hope this helps someone make a smart decision based on what I felt, but just remember everyone handles things differently.
 
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Probably would've hit you ALOT harder if your receptor's weren't already drained from the hours of rolling. I take strong pain meds(opiates) and even when I take them the next day after a night of rolling I can hardly feel anything at all. I think mostly because mdma works on serotonin and also works some on the dopamine receptors as well. That's just my opinion. Not really sure what you were asking though...?
 
Other stims on MDMA doesnt work well and increases neurotoxicity.

Also just be careful of taking to much H while on stims since you wont feel its full effects.

Personally I would save it to use separately. I think unless you get the dose perfect for the speedball effect, the stim usually dominates (well it does in my case with meth)
 
My thoughts are ,I miss a lot of shit back in california.Arkansas sucks
 
I'm not going to bicker too much... But I hate seeing trip reports like this. When I read a trip report I want qualitative information that may or may-not influence me in a decision of trying said substance.

I understand you want to tell people about your awesome poly-substance drug fueled night, but in respect for the trip report section, please just right a more detailed report along with giving it the proper title information. This is the kind of post that would be better suited for a blog post, IMO.

Just think about it next time, when you want to write something up at the tail-end of your comedown.

Thanks.
-Dilo
 
Yeah I respect that man, I was just coming down last night and really wanted to talk about it before I forget it all, and I posted it from my phone. Ill remember that last time
 
It has the potential to be an interesting report. Possibly PM a Trip Report moderator for a title change, and put some thought into conveying the realness of the experience. I wasn't trying to come off rude but there has been a plethora of improperly formatted trip reports and, in theory, informing one person will help inform the masses. Domino effect.
 
I guess you cant write much about H or Coke.

Had line, feel good, talked crap, had more, finished, feel shit, regret life, bought more.
The experience is very single layered. Same with H. Shot up, nodded, drooled, was amazing.

Meth on the other you can write pages about the crazy stuff that happens on it constantly messing with your mind, playing evil tricks on you.

I managed to recently do a H report that was decent in length but thats because i was on meth at the time of writing it and could obsess over it for hours.

I still have pages of meth questions and thoughts i wanted to post but i dont because people will think im crazy. A clever tweaker keeps his thoughts to him self i feel.

Your report was useful however as i am currently sitting with a bag of H on day 3 of a meth binge. I decided not to do it with the meth as i am a noob and have managed to stick to it all this time. Im concerned it may be risky but also dont want to miss trying out the speedball idea. Ill wait until im off the meth i think. Now thats self control lol.
 
its good- makes me wanna smoke opium. i know how good having mdma in your system when you smoke opium is (divine). the coke probably ruined your mdma high. its done that to me before. coke can kill an mdma buzz, by blocking the serotonin receptors but producing a weaker overall effect than mdma.

opiates with mdma for the win! wooo
 
Very nice report now. It was enjoyable to read.
I can sincerely agree that being stimulated around somebody who is borderline passing out is not the best scenario to be in.

Coke and MDMA don't go together at all tho'. Cocaine is a TRI (triple reuptake inhibitor ie. inhibits the reuptake of serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine). Where as MDMA is a releasing agent for serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine. I've read claims that using cocaine or methylphenidate a day after phenethylamines like methamphetamine and MDMA can increase the potency of said DRI/TRI. It would make sense that it could, but then again I don't know enough to say that statement is accurate (and I am very unsure if it would make them anymore potent while MDMA was still actively working).

You are fortunate that you did not enjoy IV cocaine. There are many a-men who have ended up in bad places in relation to shooting cocaine. It has fiend-like qualities that come along with it. It isn't a pleasant road to go down, and I'm sure most would agree that it is difficult to keep its use at a purely recreational level.

In HR sense the headache probably stemmed from using the cocaine during the MDMA high. I can't say this with one-hundred-percent confidence, but it seems like a likely scenario given circumstances. Then again it could be generally related to coming down from the cocaine and MDMA around the same time, or even possibly related to nasal congestion from insufflating too much cocaine. There are a plethora of reasons this headache occurred.

I am gonna admit I chuckled a bit when you said that $200 was put out for heroin and you only got a little dusting of it. Your friend sounds like a dick. He should have left you enough to promote a pleasant-peaceful comedown, although mixing all three of these substances is somewhat dangerous. Heroin is a cure-all for most any ailment, even depression. You just gotta remember what comes up must go down, and the down after heroin (with continual use) keeps getting lower and lower until your baseline of normal has dropped dramatically, making said ailment even worse.

But really good write up. Hope you post more. And again I wasn't trying to be mean, I just knew that it could be a good report if you put the effort into it.
 
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