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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-HO-PCP Thread

I found it to be quite different then o-pce or dck. It?s closer in effects to 3 meo pcp/pce.
I have only tried 5mg split in two doses an hour apart. At that dose it?s very clear headed and relaxing. So relaxing in fact that when it started to kick in I fell asleep for 3 hours then woke up with a very mild dissociative high thats comparable to a similar dosage of 3 meo pcp.
I will be trying 5mg all at once next time and 8mg after that.
 
Last night I tried 8 mg snorted. I found it very mild and decided to take another 8mg an hour later. The effects got slightly stronger but not drastically so.
This still reminds me of 3 meo pcp without an edge. A very clear headed dissociative.

I should add that I?ve been binging on 3 meo pcp for the past 1.5 months, low doses nearly every day. I did not have any for 2 days prior to this experience. I?m sure that affected my tolerance so don?t take my dosage advice and start low and work your way up slowly etc.

Next time I?ll try 12-15 at once.
To be completely honest I was hoping for more from this chemical based on the few glowing reports. Maybe after a tolerance break it will be deeper and more fun.

I do feel a nice after glow today so it wasn?t for naught
 
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I agree with this. I've tried this chemical two times this weekend and was really looking forward to it because of some of the reports i've read here and on reddit. But it didnt produce a very distinct effect or feeling.

I followed the dosage range from the psychonautwiki (4-6 mg) and the effects were very smooth. The experience was warm and easy going. But no profound effects. Not much of a headspace like you said. In my experience most similar to 3-meo-pce.

I'm certainly not dissapointed by this chemical, but it seems to me i'll have to try and up the dosage to see what kind of effects that'll bring me.
 
is it truly like 3-meo-pce? my partner and i favor 3-meo-pce over most other dissos, so a cheaper, more potent ach with similar effects would be ideal. fwiw, we both find 3-meo-pce very rewarding at the right dosage level, and love that there isnt the floopy nature of dck/ opce, which can each be rather debilitating during the loooooooong comedown. i guess i should add that we dont have a significant tolerance like VERY heavy daily users, and we like 3-meo-pce at the 30mg level... at that level with opce, (20-25mg), we are dumber than a wetted up pile of bricks after two hours or so (after the hole)... i prefer being able to do things. like think.

... 3-ho-pcp ftw?
 
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I havenb't tried either, but from what I recall reading, most people don't like 3-HO-PCE much but do like 3-HO-PCP. I could be mis-remembering though.
 
nepalnt21 said:
is it truly like 3-meo-pce? my partner and i favor 3-meo-pce over most other dissos, so a cheaper, more potent ach with similar effects would be ideal. fwiw, we both find 3-meo-pce very rewarding at the right dosage level, and love that there isnt the floopy nature of dck/ opce, which can each be rather debilitating during the loooooooong comedown. i guess i should add that we dont have a significant tolerance like VERY heavy daily users, and we like 3-meo-pce at the 30mg level... at that level with opce, (20-25mg), we are dumber than a wetted up pile of bricks after two hours or so (after the hole)... i prefer being able to do things. like think.

... 3-ho-pcp ftw?
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I didn't have 3-meo-pce in a long time, but in those lower doses I mentioned it felt almost the same as 3-meo-pce, with a little more of a body heavy feeling. If you like 3-meo-pce I think you should give this a try at least and see what it does for you.

Anyway I've since then upped my doses (10-20mg orally) to see effect changes, but it didn't do much more for me. It
I should note my tolerance skyrocketed since I also started IM'ing o-pce in the 25-30mg range.

The last time I tried 3-ho-pcp was 20mg IM and don't remember anything from it.. There also was no real hole to it or CEV's (like with ketamine, mxe or o-pce).

I don't think I'll be trying this chemical more because with my tolerance low doses don't do anything special for me and the effects I get from it, are not those I'm searching for in a disso. So I rather stick to o-pce or just good old ketamine.
 
I really like this stuff, I think it's better than 3-MeO-PCP. I will write a report sometime. The combo of propylhexedrine, one bump of 3-MeO-PCP, a bit of 4-FA and 3-HO-PCP is one of the nicest drug places I've ever been.
 
Is it likely to show up on a urine test? I'm curious yet cannot afford to fail if a test should ever be required, and I'm not likely to know ahead of time.
 
Hi folks! Been a long time since I don`t post, but after my recent experiments with novel dissociatives, I felt compelled to share.

I Had 2 good experiences with 3-HO-PCP so far, with initial doses of approximately 10mg and a few redoses until a total of 30mg max (oral). As I always do with 3-meo-pcp, I dissolved 100mg in 2ml of gyn and dosed using a dropper vial, so each drop should have 2.5mg. On the second time, I already had 50mg of 3-meo-pce in the vial, so for each 10mg of 3-HO-PCP, there was 5mg of 3-meo-pce on the mix.

I must add that my last experiences with 3-meo-pce didn`t give me real effects until about 20-25mg was consumed (also orally), so I don`t know to what degree it influenced this trip. The mix seemed more potent, as 4 drops were enough to achieve a really nice state, while pure 3-HO-PCP seems to be more noticeable at about 15mg. However both experiences weren`t much subjectively different.

Both times I took it, I was in a party environment. Dancing was really enjoyable (I felt like a dancing machine actually) and socialising was more easy than normal - I interacted with various random ppl and made a few friends. Alcohol was also consumed.
It`s stimulant and, at the same time, produces a "zen" state of mind. However, the body feeling of relaxation is stronger. Laying down with my eyes closed was very pleasurable and I could reach states of loss of notion over my body limits. In this sense it kinda reminded me of Ketamine. It also induced a few deep conversations, my reasoning was sharp and there was a strong feeling of oneness. Social barriers were more fluid and the feeling of empathy came quite easily. I had sex at the tail end of the second trip and, as with 3-meo-pcp, it definitely isn`t aphrodisiac, but also didn`t make it impossible to have an erection.

I should note that 3 drops of the mixture one the day after my second experiment gave almost no effects, only a slight dissociation/stimulation that kept me from sleeping. There is probably some tolerance.

In the last year I went through 1g of 3-meo-pcp, 4 or 5g of Ketamine and 3 or 4g MXE, so that`s my referential, but before that I didn`t have much experience with this kind of drugs. Overall I think in low-medium doses of dissociatives are great social lubricants and better tools than MDMA to deeply and truly connect people, so I frequently use them in social events. I actually see them as quite carnivalesque drugs, if you know what I mean... maybe with the exception of ketamine which surely I prefer to consume while lying down on my bed hahahah!

Back to 3-HO-PCP: so far I see it as a very versatile drug in the sense it has the potential to induce states of deep introspection, but it also enables social interaction and isn`t more motor impairing than low doses of MXE. I guess Zen is a good word to describe the dissociative effects of this drug, as it serves as a good tool to intensely live the moment, free of redundant internal chatter.

It`s a little bit early to say it`s my favorite dissociative, but these two experiences certainly gave it a special place in my heart. I am yet to decide if I will mix 3-HO-PCP or MXE with ALD-52 at the Radiohead concert I am to attend in a few months.
 
It sounds like a total winner. I would love a comparison going into detail of 3-meo-pcp vs 3-ho-pcp and the same comparison with MXE.
 
Yeah I like 3-HO-PCP a lot, more than 3-MeO-PCP so far (but I think I'd still prefer 3-MeO-PCP for going to shows and stuff, I've never been psychotic though). The state 3-HO-PCP produces is much calmer and more centering, and I've had some pretty intense perceptual changes too and a sort of almost psychedelic thought space.
 
Well, I have lurked here for ages. Had this account since way back but never contributed really. Thought it was time to contribute some so here we go, an account of 3-ho-PCP with a dash of a tryptamine. I wrote this for erowid but Im not sure if/when it will be published and since 3-ho-PCP is floating around at the moment it might be a good idea to have this published ASAP.

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Late Friday night after emerging from a full day of studying I decided to go on a psychedelic foray to process the concepts I had studied. I have found that certain types of psychedelic dissociatives, fully immersive doses of ketamine etc, help me integrate and better understand some abstract concepts. Further I have found that augmenting the dissociative with a tryptamine enhances this visualization a great deal. Also, I find it hilarious!

Worth noting is that I have a rather extensive prior experience with altered states. I am fit and in good health, I do not take any medications. I am very familiar with 4-Aco-DMT and I have been over the course of 3 months intermittently titrating up the dose of this particular batch of 3-ho-PCP. I have to stress that the dose of 3-ho-PCP I took could be considered a VERY high dose (definitely NOT a starting dose) and one should approach this novel and incredibly potent compound with utmost respect because it can cause damage (accidents under the influence or as a direct result of ingesting an untested substance).

T 00:00 - I carefully measured out 20mg of 3-ho-PCP and 10mg of 4-Aco-DMT and insulfated the combined powders. I prepared a playlist of soft ambient tracks and proceeded to bed.

T 00:10 - FIrst alerts, slight dissociation. A visual lag, as is if the speed of visual processing has dropped. A slight numb feeling in the nose, that is spreading across my entire body.

T 00:30 - Rapid onset is a bit unsettling. I am anxious, is my heart racing? Can not differentiate between my heartbeat and the texture of the wood in the ceiling. Come to the conclusion that its not worth trying so I lean back and close my eyes.

T 00:50 - The effects are developing rapidly. The 4-aco-DMT lends a softness, enhanced texture and squiggly colour to the otherwise clinical and a bit cubistic experience of the 3-ho-PCP. The falling and rising tones of the ambient music creates a space in my minds eye. I am being dislodged from my body and drifting along ridges of phosphorescent green/purple interference at hyperspeed.

T 01:00 - My girlfriend come is to the bedroom and gets ready to go to bed. We have some interesting conversations. I ask her if robots can make art? If they have the right to reproduce? As we kiss goodnight and she falls asleep I ponder her answers. There is a rapid stream of realizations and insights.

T 02:00 - I ponder AI. I have the experience of projecting myself into the "shoes" of an artificial consciousness with all the sensors and search inputs of the connected internets at its disposal. I feel godlike. There is a lot of noise and cognitive static in the form nonsensical sentences that to me, at that time, is imbued with great significance: "Cosmos, the gates are left unhinged", "Eyes, life's way to have a looksie at itself" etc.

T 03:00 - I start to feel a lessening of effects and for a while I believe I am mostly down. I get up to pee, feel a bit woobly as the motor function is still rather impaired. By the time I get down the stairs and into the bathroom and turn on the lights it becomes evident to me that I am no way near baseline. The proportions of the room and the colors and textures of the objects in it is severely distorted. The white porcelain toilet has taken on the shape of a bright yellow, bloating rubber toros (donut) and I am trying to aim my laser beam of phosphorescent blue urine into it. Amusing. I look at my hand and it feels like my leg so I decide I better go back to bed as I can probably not safely navigate the house unsupervised in this state.

T 03:30 - Back in bed with the earphones on I am floating in a space, I am an oort cloud (a region of space composed of comet-like bodies and other minor planets and asteroids that orbit distantly in planetary systems) and I vividly envision the mass-energy equivalence. A clear image of how the reduction of the speed of light squared under energi give rise to matter. I am all these variables and the relation between them feels as obvious to me as the relation between my left and right hand at a baseline state of mind. Extraordinary! I am mind blown and grateful to exist in such a beautiful system.

T 04:00 - Content with the day I drift out of consciousness and into sleep.

T 12:00 - I awake, feeling good but notice some residual dissociation. This slight motor control deficiency is experienced with my previous trials and usually dissipates within a half a day or so with the aid of some coffee, food and fresh air. The inner incessant dialogue is gone, I feel peaceful and content just being, a pleasant side-effect.

It was a beautiful experience. 3-ho-PCP has some long legs and its better to clear the schedule for the next day and make sure not to operate heavy machinery. It is noted that although you might believe that you are at baseline, you might not be. This effect could be deceiving and is more likely to present itself if you do not space out your doses enough (Its not gospel, just a suspicion). I have been spacing my doses two weeks apart while trailing 3-ho-PCP, yet I have a nagging suspicion my baseline is off somehow. Now that I have found what is my upper dose limit I will refrain from using this material any time soon. Both to ensure that tolerance wont build up but also because I believe it holds a real potential to be strongly habit forming, if only psychologically.

Stay safe, start low.

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I had a beautiful experience on the combo of propylhexedrine, 3-MeO-PCP and 3-HO-PCP (heavier on the 3-HO than the 3-MeO) last night. I was with my girlfriend and we were working on painting my office and then decorating it with my art. I found a bunch of art that I almost forgot about but that was very important to me. It was so profound for me rediscovering them. I felt so overwhelmingly inspired and full of love, and everything I thought about made me think deeply. Such a wonderful, beautiful state. 3-HO-PCP is a special one. When combined with a bit of 3-MeO it's even better, but just a bit of 3-MeO or else it becomes more manic/egoic like 3-MeO. 3-HO-PCP is more centered and loving.
It can be quite psychedelic in its own way too, in the thought process. A few times now I've been to a truly special state of perfection with this drug and some adjuncts and whenever I've gotten there it's like the floodgates open and my mind is working on all cylinders and I feel so intensely inspired and content and happy and capable.
 
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Xorkoth said:
A few times now I've been to a truly special state of perfection with this drug and some adjuncts and whenever I've gotten there it's like the floodgates open and my mind is working on all cylinders and I feel so intensely inspired and content and happy and capable.
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Indeed. That state of mind feels so effortlessly beautiful. Its highly seductive and better used sparsely, at least that is how I approach it, or I know I will end up a manic mechanic with a shit storm to clean up at the tail end of things...
 
Yeah IMO this stuff is at least as potent as 3-MeO-PCP.
 
Has anyone tested to see if it will show a false positive for PCP on a urine test?
 
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