frizzantik
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It seems the general consensus at Bluelight is that one will not find ALD-52..
I've often wondered about this chemical as I've experienced two distinct types of trips.
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from http://www.cures-not-wars.org/ibogaine/chap04.html
" Nonetheless ALD-52 turned out to be ten or twenty times more psychedelic than LSD. That is, its effects lay far more in the direction of Ibogaine than a mere "fishbowl effect," the "apprehension of the oneness of experience" often referred to as "seeing God."
Philip K. Dick, writing about his own celebrated religious or Near-Death Experience (NDE) in early 1974, described the phenomena of "laminate personality," of being several personalities millennia apart at the same time. Aron Kay, who took the ALD also, confirms that he had flashes of the same thing, the definite sensation of co-existing at several points of time simultaneously: 2,000 years ago, in the present, and some time up ahead in the future. It was Beal's second vision:
"As we came down to the river," says Dana, "it was like this other personality was in my mind with me, a dominant personality, who looked at the water, saw the twentieth-century pollution, and thought: `The water in this river is totally unacceptable f or performing Baptisms.' And this other person was kind of daydreaming, not even conscious of the me there, until I looked at the litter along the streambank and thought--`But of course, they didn't have non-biodegradable plastics back then.'--and the other personality kind of noticed I was there, and who I was, and thought: `Oh, a Baptist (I had attended Baptist Sunday School)...well, just make sure you don't get your head cut off this time!'"
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With a certain source of 'acid', all from the same vial, which was kept in a freezer at all times except when dispensing, i often experienced a personality laminate, or time laminate... I felt i was a Roman as well as a futuristic space man on a mission, as well as myself. I read this article years after i experienced the ALD like trips and never really thought about it much until then, although I often missed the the feelings of the personality changes on other trips.
the way the vial was kept makes me think the owners knew it was not just LSD, which is not sensitive to temperature nearly as much as ALD, which will turn into LSD at room temperature.
Why would one bother to synthesize ALD from LSD? Supposedly ALD doesnt cause nearly as much anxiety as LSD, making for 'cleaner trip', or at least a trip that seems smoother.
The experiences on the acid i associate with ALD were much more fun than those on those i think were LSD. The trips i associate with LSD seems 'dirty' while ALD seems pure and clean. These people had two different vials and they did produce significantly different experiences... with one more like a combination of ALD + LSD and one more like just ALD. Perhaps clandestine chemists often synthesize ALD-52, but by the time it gets to many street users it has totally become LSD.
But it could all be set and setting.
Comments? Am I talking out of my ass? I am still a green lighter :D
[ 20 September 2002: Message edited by: frizzantik ]
I've often wondered about this chemical as I've experienced two distinct types of trips.
...
from http://www.cures-not-wars.org/ibogaine/chap04.html
" Nonetheless ALD-52 turned out to be ten or twenty times more psychedelic than LSD. That is, its effects lay far more in the direction of Ibogaine than a mere "fishbowl effect," the "apprehension of the oneness of experience" often referred to as "seeing God."
Philip K. Dick, writing about his own celebrated religious or Near-Death Experience (NDE) in early 1974, described the phenomena of "laminate personality," of being several personalities millennia apart at the same time. Aron Kay, who took the ALD also, confirms that he had flashes of the same thing, the definite sensation of co-existing at several points of time simultaneously: 2,000 years ago, in the present, and some time up ahead in the future. It was Beal's second vision:
"As we came down to the river," says Dana, "it was like this other personality was in my mind with me, a dominant personality, who looked at the water, saw the twentieth-century pollution, and thought: `The water in this river is totally unacceptable f or performing Baptisms.' And this other person was kind of daydreaming, not even conscious of the me there, until I looked at the litter along the streambank and thought--`But of course, they didn't have non-biodegradable plastics back then.'--and the other personality kind of noticed I was there, and who I was, and thought: `Oh, a Baptist (I had attended Baptist Sunday School)...well, just make sure you don't get your head cut off this time!'"
...
With a certain source of 'acid', all from the same vial, which was kept in a freezer at all times except when dispensing, i often experienced a personality laminate, or time laminate... I felt i was a Roman as well as a futuristic space man on a mission, as well as myself. I read this article years after i experienced the ALD like trips and never really thought about it much until then, although I often missed the the feelings of the personality changes on other trips.
the way the vial was kept makes me think the owners knew it was not just LSD, which is not sensitive to temperature nearly as much as ALD, which will turn into LSD at room temperature.
Why would one bother to synthesize ALD from LSD? Supposedly ALD doesnt cause nearly as much anxiety as LSD, making for 'cleaner trip', or at least a trip that seems smoother.
The experiences on the acid i associate with ALD were much more fun than those on those i think were LSD. The trips i associate with LSD seems 'dirty' while ALD seems pure and clean. These people had two different vials and they did produce significantly different experiences... with one more like a combination of ALD + LSD and one more like just ALD. Perhaps clandestine chemists often synthesize ALD-52, but by the time it gets to many street users it has totally become LSD.
But it could all be set and setting.
Comments? Am I talking out of my ass? I am still a green lighter :D
[ 20 September 2002: Message edited by: frizzantik ]
