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(2C-B/20mg, 2C-C/40mg) - Experienced - Explosions In the Brain

cosmoknot

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Foreword: Some of you may know me as cosmoknot, others as OrbitalEntity, some as more clandestine names depending on the circle, regardless, though I don't post often here, this posting is surely BL worthy material & surely some know me here.

Those who do know of me know, just KNOW I trip face & don't bother with small fry (J know, really punny). I injected first 40mg IV then 40mg IM TMA-6 after snorting ~50mg 2C-C & ~40mg 2C-P followed by snorting 25mg dextroamphetamine sulphate, bombing five pills of MDMA, sublingually dissolving a sixth, getting dosed a drop of liquid LSD, smoking some DALT with some DMT & some 5-MeO-DMT, & though I had some DiPT & 2-MeO-DMT I called it quits that night after lines of yayo though mephedrone & the aforementioned chems were going around (unfortunately I never tasted that 2-MeO, but so it goes when drugs are being passed around a party...at least I did taste that DALT & earlier that TMA-6, both worthy of TR's--especially 2,4,6-trimethoxyamphetamine...wow is it ever amazing)...

But this TR has nada to do with the above. I wrote of the above in the same context I would've about say my experiences alternately with metocetan & ethocetan, miprocin, 2C-T-2, & N,N-DMT, or red star microdots (some of the L with controversy over possibly being ETH-LAD, PRO-LAD, ALD-52, but whatever, some analogue of L), Dutch crystal moonrocks, 2C-B, & metocin: To just give the backdrop on my hardheadedness, which hell, when I ate 9g mushies recently, that alone is yet another great example. You, nor had I, tripped quite as hard off of ANY of the above, or any of your hardhead tales, until I had--or you too--IM'ed 20mg 2C-B mixed in the needle with 40mg 2C-C. The only thing that could increase the intensity IME/IMO of the cosmic, magical hyperspacial supernova that happens when 4-chloro collides with 4-bromo is hitting 25mg of 5-MeO with 75mg N,N-DMT at the peak, or adding 80mg DPT & maybe 40mg DiPT to the needle. Or perhaps hitting it IV, I do not know.


Do know this, bypassing 1st pass metabolism, & in those quantities, of -B & -C is out of this or the next reality's collective worlds. For a little over an hour I phased back & forth from an almost dysgogic dreamworld where baby universes were violently born back into this world, where like an infant all was new & the Dead album on hit my senses with perfectly scrambled synesthesia of sight, touch, sound, & even cognitive type sensory experiences such as anticipation, excitement, & fear. Oh my word, I can honestly say that trip, so simple as it was, felt as intense as formulating matter from ectoplasmic goo & the finger of the Buddha touching it into existence & my brain's third eye the conduit between the two as that event occurred.

Chronology of events:
T: 0:00 injection of prepared rig of 20mg 2C-B + 40mg 2C-C, a friend had IV'ed 40mg 2C-C with (I think) 16mg hydromorphone the night before & called that the DMT of 2C-x's
T: 0:02 I could feel it coming on hard & fast, I got a little spooked & stumbled to the toilet, some jazz was playing
T: 0:04 I couldn't dress myself & was utterly confused
T: 0:05 I stumbled out, laid on the carpet, had my friend we shall call T. give me .rmg clonidine for blood pressure & 4mg clonazepam to quelch the fear, music switched from jazz to the Dead
T: ? Beyond hyperspace, occassionally phasing into this reality with thoughts & sensations jumbled as one blur of synesthesia beyond words
T: 1:15 Coherent enough to talk again
T: 1:20 Beginning to enjoy a conversation about humanity's history, lost track of music
T: 1:25 A 75mg parachute of -B starts to come on as I come down from that

Summary: Beyond doubt stronger than any DMT experience that please be careful if attempting. It is seriously a powerful trip, I enjoyed it but could see some off to the psych ward: NOT for the inexperienced!

If you like your dimethyltryptamine, & you think that the world of machine elves is something, seriously, it's Disneyland by comparison.

Has anyone else here experienced the wicked 21st century voodoo witchdoctor shamanism of 4-chloro/4-bromo madness?


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Your so badass, i'm so impressed by your ability to take large amounts of drugs!
 
Since you're new I'm not going to edit & move your thread yet, but we have a trip reports forum for a reason, this belongs there not in PD. It'd be helpful if you could quantify your total dosages at the top of your post and add some kind of timescale too. This is likely to be moved in the near future.

I'm removing your little recommendation from the bottom of your post. You shouldn't be recommending such reckless combinations, a lot of people take these recommendations a little too seriously. You've had a lot of experience under your belt so you knew what to expect from this kind of combination, for others this could lead to a very nasty experience or time in a psych ward. (or worse, after all these chemicals are still largely unresearched)

Newbierock, was that really necessary? Taking very large combinations of psychedelics like this is reckless, but commenting like that is just going to start a flame war.

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Don't be. You completely misconstrue any meaning there, essentially why I don't post in this Ph'd-having in neurochemistry plus a BA-having in biochemistry forum.
I put something mindblowing in referential terms I think anybody can understand, something I still fail to grasp the terms tlo put to words, and I get messed with.

Either you get the analogy that no psychedelic experience hits that hard, beyond words, or go on ignorant to it, I for the love of gawd ain't explaining myself to you.

The whole point is that (for this human) no other psychedelic experience tops IM'ing 20mg -B & 40mg-C to date in 20 years of tripping, wiseguy. K, now that somebody (inevitably, probably someone who knows of me elsewhere too who only wishes they went to parties like those too) got that out of the way, I am interested in comments from folks who've bypassed 1st pass metabolism with -B + -C... Or simply -C, & not by insufflation of great note. -C seems to have hidden power directly introduced to blood.

It's really not a joking matter, if you have been there, you know some benzos handy and a trip sitter are essential. And a toilet right nearby & a pail to toss your guts.

Otherwise, I laugh that you'd laugh.
 
Timescale: within five minutes it was in an IM rig, two hours later I could finally go in public but was lost a block from home. Please do move it. I didn't know where a synergistic thing this specific goes, if you have to draw straws, maybe 2C-C?
 
Sorry if my reply was a little confusing, my time scale I meant it'd be nice if you could explain the events in a bit more detail in chronological order, e.g.

T+0:00: I IVed the material, blah blah
T+0:15: Blah blah blah
etc..

It'd make for a much more useful trip report that way. I'm hesitant to move it yet since it's interesting but the actual trip report itself is only a few sentences long. I'd love to hear more if you're willing to expand on your experience, and I'm sure many of the other psychonauts here would be interested - particularly as you found it more intense than DMT :)
 
I don't think this guy is a troll, his previous posts all seem legitimate. Although the combinations he's mentioned are recklessly and potentially very dangerous - it's no indicator of if he's telling the truth or not. His (albeit short) report sounds believable to me given the substances, ROA and doses taken.

If you feel a post is breaking the rules or trolling, please use the report post button at the top right of a post, rather than posting "Obvious troll" or whatever and cluttering up the thread. Thanks <3

Edit: Cleaned up the thread a little and merged additional notes into the main post. Moving to TR now. (Unfortunately I had to snip the title since it was too long, sorry!)

PD -> Trip Reports

TR mods feel free to do with this what you will, if you feel he needs to add more let him know.
 
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Wow, now this guy is cool. I only wish I could go to parties like the ones he goes to!
 
Hmmm, oh well. Why bother. Two things, though, strike me as funny; the numbers game is showing the probability that I have bumped elbows with joker no. two & I betcha a few of you live in a neighborhood nearby. If you guys *do* think I am full on myself, please don't repeat me on a lark. Now I am going to bed. Meh. Watch a few of you even knowing me for real: can't be missed, in Addida Sambas & jeans with band shirts & hats a lot, g'nite. At least I get taken serioisly elsewhere. Bye.
 
I did some thinking, & to contextualize things, my tolerance isn't factored in anywhere; it's fairly damned high. High like a 4mg line of 25I-NBOMe barely gets me tripping & I can bomb 80+mg 2C-E & get off the way most do at or around 30mg.
That said, if anyone introduces the -B/-C combo to your blood, take caution as I have warned you. What seems reckless &/or dangerous of me really is run of the mill for me. Anyone with a regular tolerance please weigh that accordingly against what's safe for you.
 
If your tolerance is that high I'd really recommend you take a break from tripping. You must be tripping very very often to develop that kind of tolerance. I was like yourself at one point, tripping very often, mainly due to the excitement of trying psychedelics - but then I took a break and wow, I'm so glad I did, my experiences are 100x more magical and interesting - if that experience was amazing with your tolerance, imagine how amazing al your experiences will be if you space them out? :D

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Thank you for being welcoming & interested. Really my tolerance is sort of permanently high due to a stunt a few years ago snorting 75mg each 2C-I & 4-AcO-DMT. I don't, not nasally, get into hyperspace with DPT. I really only trip a few times monthly these days, sooo, that's that. Like I hope I wasn't flipped off for bragging, as I simply know communities overlap & who that trips doesn't want liquid L, TMA-6, e pills, & DALT free at parties?! Or 2-MeO-DMT?! That isn't run of the mill biz at just any party, I also know there's got to be overlap between communities on the Internetz, meaning I suspected if posting here on an international site I might get heckled over petty nonsense. I didn't even mention the 4-FA, bk-MDMA, 25I-NBOMe, or more 2C-C from the night of my shot in my TR. So I dgaf about bragging, I am just as interested in misfired neurons, nitrogen atom placement, differences in propyl, isoprpopyl, methyl, & ethyl groups as every other BL *potential* basement chemist, prefer STB pulls over A/B pulls, dig dubstep, psytrance, drone, & psychedelia au general.

At any rate, sure I introduced myself awkwardly here to those who don't know of me, but those who do know I am all about psychedelic synergy. Seriously. The - B/-C shot is stronger than when I made a blunt filled with over a gram of DMT: NOT for the timid, faint of heart, nor lightweights. Peace. I sincerely respect this community & next time I do that IM I am taking piracetam, likewise when I IM 40mg DiPT with 80mg DPT.
 
Wow, this is absolutely legendary, insanity on a whole new level. Lucky your got the DALT and 2-MeO-DMT.
 
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Yeah, I thought lucky me; DALT & TMA-6 both in one night. DALT as I recall is a powerful rush, not tremendously hallucinatory, but psychedelic in the same way as its five methoxylated cousin, but instead of like 5-MeO-DALT where you always fizzle out before even coming near breakthrough, it puts you instantly in an amazingly euphoric headspace. I also had some aMT though I forgot about, & experience with aMT or 2C-T-2 tells me their mild MAOI actions potentate other 5HT receptor agonists & SSRA's, so that has to factor in too, but DALT is amazing nonetheless.
The 2-MeO-DMT & DiPT ended up in someone elses possession, though I don't know who nor how. I was given those, 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, 3 e pills, yayo, aMT, liquid L, & the TMA-6 free because I'm fairly gregarious & also because I made friends with the guy who threw the rave &,the main candykid, both of whom I did favors for which got me invited to the after hours VIP party where there was 4-MMC also. I attempted to save some DALT, TMA-6, & 2-MeO-DMT to experience alone, especially the 2-MeO, seeing as how 1. I'm a trypt fanatic & 2. I know it's so rare I doubted I would just encounter it again, so I held out on 2-MeO which sucked since I did so with TMA-6 & DALT to experience them seperately, but being as nice as I am, my gifts ended up in other folks' hands by morning after the rave.
Oh well, good karma has to be coming to me now, sheesh. I hope, I'm raving with the same peeps soon :D
I didn't touch the meph, my 6-APB, nor some desoxypiperadrol (sp?) either these past couple bashes.
One day I'll see 2-MeO again...hope, hope, hope!
 
For me aMT + MDMA: the aMT blocked most of the effects of Dutch crystal moonrocks :) ; can't believe desoxy was at a party. Where the hell are you? Oh wait that was yours?
 
The Yayo Area, the hometown of crack precisely. I don't care for crack much though, but toss cocoa puffs or lines of yay at me & I get silly, heh.
The desoxy was a 7mg capped gift that got stolen from a friend holding my valuables because I was tripping so hard virtually no iris showed in my eyes, making sensitivity to bright headlights bewildering enough I was lost 2 blocks from home.
The aMT was pharmaceutical grade from Russia these two Russian or Polish girls had a script from Mother Russia for depression, it was nuts--I got the impression they were high end, top notch escorts too & super hotties :p
 
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I'm new to bl but not drugs,,i don't know what pissed me off more, you thinking that doing all that is impressive, or people actually kissing your arse. Ok, you take alot of chems, but you really think theres sumat special about the fact,,so you got a p.h.d,wow,seriously,,well done,I reckon you gotta have a degree in being a twat too, you put alot of stuff noone knows the longturm effects of, crank it,thats up to you,whatever floats ur boat,but to really believe that makes you someone people shld respect is really funny,,how old are you,you come across as a well imformed/educated teanager,, but I don't think so. ACid casualty by 19,( i did my E's the first time round, back 89, aint a big up me, just a fact, ), there really isn't anything impressive about taking alot of drugs,I believe anyone of a certan age+experience will say the same.
People,,don't buy into being impressed by the above post,,drugs have been my life, but there aint nothing clever about it,but some are obviously impressed, think this guy is some '' cool dude ''+ would love to be in the same company, well, whatever turns you on my friends.... Yeah,,just my own opinion,,I dont normaly post, but reading that really got my back up,I've spent time on psych wards,,,i honestly hope u never fall,cus will b a very longway,chems,,no 1 is stronger than the nxt love+light```````````````````````````````````````
 
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Oh brother...

Hey guy, I do get why you'd get uppity over my post. However, let me reclarify two things, no three. One, I did state up front that what I posted wasn't braggard nonsense, it was (as stated contextualization of how powerful the -b/-c IM combo is & overlooked by you at that likely IMO/IME because we've bumped shoulders elsewhere--& to that end, I can assure several peepz were shocked, speechless, & now just pissed off at that pompous Brit's ego padding. Thinking he can change market politics simply because the UK is crazy for some overpriced MDA wannabe, like with their yayo wannabe 'drone--or mephe as I have seen Brits call it (my guess is in part because he's likely invested in a few legit, albeit spendier to the masses, xxx.co.uk outfits, the rest paranoia & a personal beef tied together which I did all anyone could to assuage his fears, but they got the better of him in the end, & his final words were actually comical. I'm off track though: the guy had NO idea what he put the kibosh on, or rather just on ice as I still have numerous trusted allies he put off in a big way. Also, don't say who we both know I am referring to & to what. Oh, & he broke his own promise not to go wayward the way the reviled LHGuy did; that should concern you more than this). Anyway, all that I am certain was him protecting assetts. It was far too sudden, convenient, & 'coincidental' (I don't believe in much coincidence) to be anything else; anyone, that is anyone that isn't one of his naive sicophants, saw it & him for what & who that was/he is. So secondly, I don't have words to describe the -b/-c IM combo effectively, so I used a few recent binges to attempt to describe its power & gravity; but frankly IDGAF about an untillegable rant rife with enough typos & misused words/mispellings from another Brit, probable sicophant to the aforementioned 'arse'hole--& I mean no disrespect to you Brits here, I am simply calling it as I see it. Nobody says arse but UK citizens, & seriously, it's laughable...his whole post. No stranger to drugs indeed, WTF was he on?! Ha! Some serious hypocracy or a man with less than a 1st grade education who was raised by wolves :p oy vey. So what if I enjoy psychedelic benders anyway, & again would y'all REALLY turn down TMA-6, DALT, & 2-MeO-DMT? C'mon, isn't this Bluelight, heh.. Finally my third point is PLEASE DO NOT BLINDLY reenact my -b/-c IM trip overlooking that I have stated in so many words imagine smoking DMT, suddenly knowing you're lucky to have a trip sitter because in minutes it reaches roughly 6-10x the intensity of those yellow mothball-smelling crystals & this persists for two-ish hours.

Don't say I didn't caution you guys! Peace. BTW my lesser educated British druggie, I am closer to 40, & a friend downed 2 tenstrips plus snorted 10mg 25I, & ate several shroom chocolates 2 days back. In my mind, pushing the boundaries of reality is no big thing, & that's the general philosophy of my crowd. I didn't give thought one to impressing a soul here; & there we agree: doing lotsa drooogz ain't impressive, but the subjective experiences are...also, don't talk with such authority on something you've never done, plus, as they say, "don't knock it 'til you've tried it."

I'm new to bl but not drugs,,i don't know what pissed me off more, you thinking that doing all that is impressive, or people actually kissing your arse. Ok, you take alot of chems, but you really think theres sumat special about the fact,,so you got a p.h.d,wow,seriously,,well done,I reckon you gotta have a degree in being a twat too, you put alot of stuff noone knows the longturm effects of, crank it,thats up to you,whatever floats ur boat,but to really believe that makes you someone people shld respect is really funny,,how old are you,you come across as a well imformed/educated teanager,, but I don't think so. ACid casualty by 19,( i did my E's the first time round, back 89, aint a big up me, just a fact, ), there really isn't anything impressive about taking alot of drugs,I believe anyone of a certan age+experience will say the same.
People,,don't buy into being impressed by the above post,,drugs have been my life, but there aint nothing clever about it,but some are obviously impressed, think this guy is some '' cool dude ''+ would love to be in the same company, well, whatever turns you on my friends.... Yeah,,just my own opinion,,I dont normaly post, but reading that really got my back up,I've spent time on psych wards,,,i honestly hope u never fall,cus will b a very longway,chems,,no 1 is stronger than the nxt love+light```````````````````````````````````````
 
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