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Meth ⫸Methamphetamine Megathread⫷

I have a question for those who have shot up meth and plain amphetamine, because i want to know if there is much of a difference? I have only experience with i.v amphetamine, my dosage was usually around 30-50mg of fairly pure stuff (cleaned with A/B) every 4-6 hours. Meth i have only snorted a tiny amount of crystals mabye 500mg, but its a loooong time ago, and i dont remember much of a difference with both substances.
 
I was an IV meth user for about 6 months. I don't remember a whole lot. The majority of it was a blur, between the substance abuse and the physical and mental abuse from my boyfriend, I think my brain has just subconsciously blocked a lot of those memories out. I *DO* remember my first time, though... wow is all I can say. I couldn't even see straight, and I felt like I wet my pants (not pee, either)! After that, everytime we were gettin ready for a shot, I'd have to poop first, because I would get so excited! I never acheived that same high, although I'd come very close. Sometimes I'd get sleepy immediately after a shot. I have no idea why, because it is an upper - not a downer. But I'd nod kind of like what I see heroin users do. I've never done H, so I can't compare the two... but it was extremely strange! And it was pure, too. We made the shit ourselves, so we know it didn't have anything else in it. I never wanted to continue abusing on a daily basis like we did, but I had an abusive stalker boyfriend who would accuse me of sleeping with other men/women and getting high without him. He'd say that's why I didn't want to get high with him. When in reality, I just wanted to quit. Anyway, I never shot myself up - it was always him, and he NEVER missed. Not once! I once asked him what the most he'd given me was, and I guess my tolerance was up to about a .75 gram per shot (and I'm naturally a very small girl. 115 lbs off dope, got down to about 100lbs when I was using). He had these really cool glass syringes.. HUGE fuckers. Could hold a lot more than a regular insulin needle. Sorry for this being so long, I haven't talked to anyone about this in a long, LONG time. I quit cold turkey 2 years ago.
 
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My first

My first time was almost 2 weeks ago, I have been a smoker for a long time, pretty much off and on most of my life. But I grew up in Vegas and was taught how to take care of responsibility first then party hard, so I am one of the rare people that has been able to maintain normal life, ie job and family and relationships. But I have learned to avoid the crazy ones and that usually includes people that put it in their veins, but I had a friend and we hung out for a while before I knew he did it that way. I was shocked when I found out cuz he was not at all like the others I had met. Anyway he has been one of my best friends for a year, and for some reason the other day I called him and said I wanted to try it. I expected a fight but he didn't, he said that he was sure I could handle it.
The first thing I felt was my throat get warm then my ears and then, my panties got wet. I was not expecting that at all. That's when everything went wrong, I am married and for the first time in my life I cheated on someone. Also I used to be an escort so I don't get turned on very easily and I defiantly never associate good sex with feelings. But not this time. Before this I was not even attracted to my friend before this so, being a psychology major I had to step back and analyze what was going on. I figured out that I was just getting my signals mixed because he is the one that made me feel like that. Then he left for the weekend and not only did I not have the equipment but I didn't have the know how. If course I went a little nuts, so I decided it was time for me to take a break alltogether. At first my husband was cool with tht, cuz he does not do it, but after I slept for a few days he started getting upset, so I got up and went to get some stuff. I smoked of course but could not get it out of my head. When he came back I made him teach me. In the mean time I ruined our friendship because my desperate need to be with him was Appearant and it scared him. I tried to explain it was only cuz I couldn't do that myself yet, but after a few days he stopped answering my calls. I finally got the balls to shoot myself. After a couple times now, I've stopped thinking of him every moment, I'm over him. But because I was not able to control myself with him, or anything else for that matter I am very afraid of the future.and very sad that I lost my friend. I do miss him, and in nothing but a plutonic way.
 
Sometimes I'd get sleepy immediately after a shot. I have no idea why, because it is an upper - not a downer. But I'd nod kind of like what I see heroin users do. I've never done H, so I can't compare the two... but it was extremely strange! about a .75 gram per shot (and I'm naturally a very small girl. 115 lbs off dope, got down to about 100lbs when I was using).

I could/can never figure out wtf is going on when I do (I smoke) a hit and then lean back on the couch and doze/nod. I have no clue as to why this happens, but it feels just like a H nod.

You were doing three-fourths of a gram in one shot??? Either the dope was mediocre or your tolerance was incredible. Good on ya for pulling off of it.
 
I am debating whether i should mainline a shot into the veins that run across my chest, i however am not an idiot and know that close to the heart with meth being such a powerful stimulant. I'm wondering however, if the only danger in me getting the dosage wrong is overamping, or the proximity will make the consequences more dire.

I tend to use the veins that run just beneath my collarbones, kind of where my bra straps sit. Its highly visable, doesn't bruise easily and as I usually work in a corporate environment it means I can avoid having unsightly track marks on my arms..

How much should one person take at a time? Depending on tolerance and purity I usually go between 50-100mg per dose.

How often should you do a shot? Leaving a week or more between doses is your best bet.. But if you're going to binge than at least 12 hours between is a good guide. Or if your hands are shaking too much to mix or administer the shot than you're best off to wait a couple of hours. And in the meantime drink some water and force down a bite to eat

How do you know when you have been 'smoked down'?
o_O Eh?

When is it time to up your dosage?
When you're not feeling anything from it. I'd suggest taking a break, using magnesium supplements and getting your dopamine stores back up before upping your dose..
What are the steps in preparing a shot of ice? Water - Dope ratio
 
I did a shot last night that turned out to be too much in the syringe so I stopped when it felt right. Obviously there is some blood mixed in. Can I do the rest of it. If so how long is it good for?
So glad for this forum right now cuz I am pretty new at this and the only person I know that does it this way feels guilty and won't talk to me. I have so many questions

Nonono don't shoot anything that has sat for any length of time, ESPECIALLY if there's blood mixed in.
you shouldn't leave even a freshly prepared shot too long. There are a number of reasons. coagulation, infection, blood clots, coronary problems, i don't need to go on.

your best bet is to remove the needle and plug it up the shooter.
always use fresh needles and freshly prepared shots.
stay safe. DJ
 
I have a question for those who have shot up meth and plain amphetamine, because i want to know if there is much of a difference? I have only experience with i.v amphetamine, my dosage was usually around 30-50mg of fairly pure stuff (cleaned with A/B) every 4-6 hours. Meth i have only snorted a tiny amount of crystals mabye 500mg, but its a loooong time ago, and i dont remember much of a difference with both substances.

yes. meth is waaay stronger basically.
start with 0.05.
If it's proper stuff, that will be plenty.
you can always work your way up. but never can you reverse what has already been done!
 
About 7 years ago I used meth quite a lot, eventually got sick of it and quit (I've never had a problem with stimulants believe it or not). I didn't touch the stuff for at least 6 years. Then had a chance to try some again. I only took about 10 mg of shards, IV, (I use a mg scale and always weigh everything I use).

The effect of that tiny bit was so intense I couldn't sleep for 3 days (I lay there at night eyes closed for 8+ hours strait, 2 nights in a row, totally awake, mind flying like crazy trying to sleep). I didn't get back to normal for 5 days, I would actually wake up still high on the 4th and 5th day, even though I finally slept.

I've used meth a lot and it has never ever lasted that long nor been that strong. I couldn't believe that tiny bit could do that. That first day I was hallucinating and had ego meltdown events like psychedelics. I really don't think it was one of those long lasting bromonated methylenedioxy analogues, it really felt like speed, just hella intense.

I've used meth several times since then, IV. Even the same stuff I had that 1st time (I had a bunch left). Though I waited about 3 months to do it again (I kept it carefully in the freezer). That 1st time was scary. I thought I wasn't going to come down since speed isn't supposed to last that long.

So, just thought I'd share my experience since it was so outrageous.
Has anyone else heard of this happening with crystal meth? I've used it hundreds of times and it has never done that before or since. Any ideas?

Only thing that comes to mind is 4-MAR..

Tiny dose, scary long duration
 
I could/can never figure out wtf is going on when I do (I smoke) a hit and then lean back on the couch and doze/nod. I have no clue as to why this happens, but it feels just like a H nod.

You were doing three-fourths of a gram in one shot??? Either the dope was mediocre or your tolerance was incredible. Good on ya for pulling off of it.

It was pure, my friend. My ex was an annie cook. We were always risk takers and pushing our luck trying to get the "ultimate high". We're lucky we never keeled over dead from an overdose...
 
^True 'dat, ma!

But it leaves the original question unanswered: whytf are we NODDING on ICE? Hel- lo this seems pretty damn strange to me. If I were the type to stay up for days this would make sense. But I have never done over 24 hours because I do not like sleep deprivation.

Did it happen to you after you had been up for awhile?
 
^True 'dat, ma!

But it leaves the original question unanswered: whytf are we NODDING on ICE? Hel- lo this seems pretty damn strange to me. If I were the type to stay up for days this would make sense. But I have never done over 24 hours because I do not like sleep deprivation.

Did it happen to you after you had been up for awhile?

I don't remember, really. Those days were a blur.. I really don't think we were ever up more than a couple days at a time. but it would be immediately after a shot when the rush comes. I'd doze for probably 15 Mins (not 100% sure on how long it was) and then be up for a couple days like normal, whether I got that 'nod' in or not... idk about rocketqueen, though, it's never happened to me when I smoked it. She musta been smoking A LOT or something....
 
I did a shot last night that turned out to be too much in the syringe so I stopped when it felt right. Obviously there is some blood mixed in. Can I do the rest of it. If so how long is it good for?
So glad for this forum right now cuz I am pretty new at this and the only person I know that does it this way feels guilty and won't talk to me. I have so many questions

You can either break the needle off and try plugging it, or if you're bound and determined to shoot the rest of it, put it back in the spoon or whatever and re-filter it with a new cotton. I still wouldn't though, might have bacteria in it that's unfilterable.
 
I don't use Methamphetamine either, but how could we call ourselves an objective harm reduction forum, scoffing at the idea of using one drug while providing much invaluable information about the next? It would be irrational and hypocritical to have loads of info regarding IV use of Heroin and Cocaine, but not Meth just because some of us are against the use of the drug.

Better that someone who is determined to use Methamphetamine intravenously researches it here first and does it safely. Harm reduction shouldn't discriminate between substances.


i agree wholeheartedly ... i used to only smoke meth but i had friends who shot it, they used to try to get me to do it but i never would because i knew that there probably would not be any going back
but eventually i got too curious and asked my friend to draw me up a shot but then he wouldnt do it because i guess he didnt want me to end up where he was. but my needle using friends came over one night and accidentally left a used needle on my floor and i found it after they left, so i washed it like 10 times with bleach and sanitized it and all that cause i was going to draw up a shot myself and slam it. but the problem was, i was alone and didnt know how to properly inject meth, i mean i had watched plenty of other people do it but i didnt know enough about it to just go and shoot up on my own. my only source of info on this was the internet on my phone so i searched google for how to properly inject meth, how to shoot up, how to hit a vein, all that stuff but i couldnt find any type of guideline or good enough advice that really helped me and when i slammed it i ended up missing the vein and it hurt so fucking bad.....i was tweakin out and getting all paranoid that maybe i hadn't totally rinsed all the bleach out of the needle and accidentaly shot up bleach. but now that i think about it that was highly unlikely cause i rinsed the shit out of that thing. i just missed the vein i was aiming for in my wrist and it was like a bluish white bubble underneath my skin, it scared me so much i held my wrist under the water and tried to rub it out but that made it hurt even more so i just held my wrist under the water for hella long and was extra careful with it for the rest of the day.... it barely even got me high too, it made me tweak out hella bad cause i thought it was bleach at first but it was a bad high more than an enjoyable one. and the meth under my skin faded a lot in the next few days, like it was gone within a week but sometimes in certain lighting i could still see traces of where it was weeks later


so my point is that a guide for slamming meth would be a really good thing and is most likely not going push anyone over the edge if they are on the fence about whether to slam it or not - i think it would do good more than bad and maybe prevent other people from having experiences like mine.... i know im a stupid fuck for trying to do it alone but im not the only one in this world. if i knew then what i know now about shooting up that would not have happened. if i had known about drawing back first to see if you get blood. i would have waited for someone else to be there so i wouldnt have to do it myself (even if i did it would have been so much better to have someone with me) because that shits dangerous, there are so many things that could go wrong, im lucky it was just one thing for me. the most important things i know about iv use now are dont do it alone (even if youre experienced you dont want to be alone if you overdose), use a fresh rig everytime, even if its only been used by you, use a fresh one because its safer and theyre only like 29 cents. when you slam it make the needle hole facing up so it goes in smoother, always draw back and see if theres blood to make sure your in a vein, and keep your hand absolutely still and steady esp. after you draw back blood cause there is a possibility of losing the vein once you find it

now with that all said i highly advise to never ever slam meth if you havent already because its not worth the addiction and all the pain caused from it. ive been clean 34 days only cause i was arrested and forced into a rehab program with drug testing and the only thing that keeps me going is looking forward to when i can use again. i hate living like this like im a prisoner to my addiction still even after five weeks of being totally clean. they say curiosity killed the cat, satisfaction brought it back, well in terms of slamming dope you will never be satisfied, it always wears off and you always want more so dont even start. its so much better if you just never do it because then when you eventually have to get clean you have one less thing to miss. slamming dope is like the one thing that made me lose hope of being content with a sober lifestyle - i feel like i could have recovered from smoking it or even shooting heroin but for me slamming dope was the best, and the worst, cause the feeling is irresistable, like im not strong enough to fight it
 
QUOTE["It should be noted that the contents of crystal meth, the street form of the methamphetamine drug, tend to be a combination of toxic chemicals such as lye, Drano, pseudoephedrine, battery acid, insecticides, solvents, and ether."]QUOTE

The above statement I took from the lead post on this thread. I think that we are being lied to and/or mislead. When we do meth, if we were doing all of the crap listed above, how is it than any of us is still alive? If I slammed lye, drano, and insecticides I would likely be toxic in a month or less. So, this goes to the question on my thread, about transformation. ARE we really consuming all of that shit or are we consuming...methamp.??? One person that posted says that the end result of making methamp. (which is methamp.) is NOTHING like what you started with - that by the process of cooking it has undergone chemical transformation.
 
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Is this the methamphetamine megathread? Or just pertaining to IV-meth.....

Anyways if it's just the meth megathread, it would be interesting to know if there are others like me who pretty much only snort it, but rarely vaporize it using foil (I think most experienced meth-veterans would back me up that you can use meth more efficiently on foil vs Pyrex, as you dose yourself more effectively and reduce harm.

I say this reduces harm because most noobies I know make up for overheating/burning/torching their product (they think this creates bigger clouds; which is false) and have to pack more and more tweak, and often end up consuming MUCH more than they intended. When I use foil, I use a miniscule percentage of what I would usually snort, and I will make it last just as long and keep the peak concentration somewhat consistent by taking good hits less frequently.

It's both a methamphetamine megathread and covers IV-meth.
 
Is this the methamphetamine megathread? Or just pertaining to IV-meth.....

Anyways if it's just the meth megathread, it would be interesting to know if there are others like me who pretty much only snort it, but rarely vaporize it using foil (I think most experienced meth-veterans would back me up that you can use meth more efficiently on foil vs Pyrex, as you dose yourself more effectively and reduce harm.

I say this reduces harm because most noobies I know make up for overheating/burning/torching their product (they think this creates bigger clouds; which is false) and have to pack more and more tweak, and often end up consuming MUCH more than they intended. When I use foil, I use a miniscule percentage of what I would usually snort, and I will make it last just as long and keep the peak concentration somewhat consistent by taking good hits less frequently.

i would say you induce harm to yourself by smoking from tinfoil. Its much easier to burn meth this way (burnt meth - toxic/stinky)
tinfoil also have little holes that flame of lighter comes though and burns product.
In pyrex pipe, there is no way flame touches prroduct, but if you use torch lighter, you are more likely to overheat meth and destroy it.(so better to use regular lighter) Also pyex pipe keeps smoke inside from escaping, you are more likely to loose meth vapor on foil,
its my opinion, for some people its easier and more efficient to smoke from foil, for some from pyrex
 
as for dope water ratio: it don't matter, really. less water and thicker solution may be harder on yer veins though. i used to always use the same amount of water as i did dope, i.e. .25 of dope, 25 units of h2o. important thing is to measure water strictly cause u can tell how good yer shit is by how much you draw up after u break it down...the more the better. a double up is what to shoot for. no pun intended ha ha
 
I'm a IV drug user of many types, but IVing methamphetamine for the first time was the gnarliest/best experience I've had...

it's the only drug that I find myself craving long after its use...mainly if I find myself thinking about it I want it right then and there. some good shit :)
 
oh and yes, i saw some posts about the danger of missing a meth shot...
gave myself a nasty staph infection and my wrist abscessed a bit and I had to get it cut open so BE CAREFUL
 
oh and yes, i saw some posts about the danger of missing a meth shot...
gave myself a nasty staph infection and my wrist abscessed a bit and I had to get it cut open so BE CAREFUL

Missing a meth shot will not get you abscess, but missing the vein will for sure give you nasty abscess and if its not taken care right away, there is a big possibility of loosing an arm
i hope you went to doctor to get it cut open
 
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