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Question about oral solubility. I have 1 gram of JWH 210. I know that it is not water soluble however it is fat soluble.

If I dump my 1 gram of 210 into 500ml of olive oil will it make a solution? that way every 1ml of oil contains 2mg of jwh? has anyone tried this before? (doesnt have to be specifically with 210... with any jwh for that matter).

thanks in advance for helping out a noob
 
1sth4monic said:
Question about oral solubility. I have 1 gram of JWH 210. I know that it is not water soluble however it is fat soluble.

If I dump my 1 gram of 210 into 500ml of olive oil will it make a solution? that way every 1ml of oil contains 2mg of jwh? has anyone tried this before? (doesnt have to be specifically with 210... with any jwh for that matter).

thanks in advance for helping out a noob
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I know you can make butter with it, disolve it with pre-melted butter or could maybe even be used the same way as regular thc.
 
buy a MG scale, lol... never understood why you'd want/need to make an oral prep.

Great post Crook
 
I don't understand. It's orally active already - it requires no prep. Use it like salt. It's relatively tasteless and odorless. I drink it down in a shot of iced-tea.
 
i heard that it is more potent when it mixes with something which is fat soluble like butter or olive oil or something? forms some type of complex? or am i just way way off on this one? I had some jwh 122 a few months back which i made brownies out of... each brownie had 10-12mg in it. i used vegtable oil with jwh in it. the brownies were far far stronger than just eating 10-15mg of powder.... does this make sense or am i just way off?
 
The major problem I have found with eating low-milligram amounts of powder is that alot of it can get stuck in your teeth/throat/mucous membranes before making it down into your digestive tract. I don't know whether these compounds cross mucous membranes, but it shouldn't be an issue if they are in solution (i.e. oil). I've also put it into capsules or, like Chainer said, you can just sprinkle it into your food and ingest it that way. The powder gets carried by the food instead of depositing on the sides of your mouth/teeth/throat. I like to use (greek) yogurt as it is a natural lipid suspension and totally delicious!
 
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hahahaha...

Try this whoever is getting aggy highs, It works a treat!

Boil broccoli juice, 1litre and 250grams of broccoli,Lightly boil it up for 5mins only in the morning.

Now drink half that morning, then half that evening,

Eat the broccoli for lunch, Im only doing this to treat something called prostatits, its a an actual like broccoli program and i just realised my highs have changed and arent aggy at all now
 
See a doctor, none of us are qualified to tell you what state your body's in over the internet.
Most importantly stop fucking taking chemicals/"blends" that make your piss change color!

I was under the impression that JWH-018 and such were fairly nontoxic. Maybe they're not.

This actually reminds me about that guy who started taking URB-597 (cannabinoid reuptake inhibitor) and had his kidneys give up the ghost due to the unusually high level of cadmium he was exposing himself to... I think it's a lot more likely your batch is contaminated.

And, worrying about your damiana being irradiated by Fukushima? Jeez, it's not like they set off a fucking atom bomb over there. The fallout isn't going to be the cause of your malaise. 9though it is visible if you have the right equipment, I think sitting in a concrete room would get you more radiation exposure.
 
What is in broccoli that prevents anxiety? Sounds like placebo...
 
i think its mainly because im getting less problems with my prostate,
Ive been less anxious overall,

I read that walnuts and broccoli are good anti anxiety foods in a number of places/sources
 
Care to share any? I'm not disputing that it works for you, but I think that it's probably a psychological phenomenon rather than a physiological one.
 
Anyone got some basic info on either of these?
CB-13
JT-7770
Been focused too much on school lately, got out of synthetic cannabinoids. Interested again, but everything seems to be different. Also what's the legal status of synth. cannabinoids currently?
 
That depends on where you are... as for the US federal ban, it hasn't taken effect yet! It passed the house in December, but hasn't gone through the senate yet. (it's been read twice and referred to the Committee on Judiciary)
CB-13 has a wiki page for it.. unless you meant dosage/timeline I have no idea for those. Though I would imagine its dose should be higher because of its poor ability to cross the BBB?
JT-7770 I'm pretty sure is just relabeled JTE-907 or perhaps a blend containing it, but not a single vendor has given me a straight answer yet!

Anyone have any experience with AKB48, 2NE1, or STS-135 yet?
 
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Enix150 said:
The major problem I have found with eating low-milligram amounts of powder is that alot of it can get stuck in your teeth/throat/mucous membranes before making it down into your digestive tract.
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This. I've read, and been convinced a bit, that binding to a fatty lipid solution first will increase speed of absorption, leading to a spike in the peak. In all honesty though, I've had conflicting experiences with this - I've found, through a good bit of use, that oral dosages are so simple to take in it's original form, I have no reason to convert it unless I want to make a blend.

Those dosages are very low for an oral dosage for someone with tolerance, though. If I am going the oral route, I am going to take upwards 40-50mg (this is based on JWH-018, higher for less intense variants)
 
Due to the serious anxiety issues and paranoia from using synthetic cannabis, you have come to automatically associate the drug with this negative experience.(drug sensitisation) It sounds like you also suffer from a degree of psychotic/anxious/intrusive thoughts when you use this stuff (a dangerous combo of symptoms), which means there is a side of you that knows how much damage this drug is causing you and wants to stop, and another side you that keeps saying More more more!

Paranoia is the projection of your own uncomfortable feelings to the outside world. You might feel your powerless so this feeling is projected externally to give you the illusion you have some degree of control. Its generally a symptom of guilt, you might feel guilty you cant control the drug and your damaging your own mental health and your inability to resolve confliction - your aims for responsible drug usage, or reduction of adverse affects.

The anxiousness is exarbetated by the fact your worried your going to experience distress by using.

Responsible use
One idea is to look at the activities you engage in under the influence? Eliminate activities that cause the most stress. Is it helpful or is it destructive. Sitting on the couch watching porn all day is gonna make you feel guilty and paranoid. So is snorting ridiculous amounts. Try changing the activities you engage in while under the influence.

Dosage - way too high. The end.

What will happen is that if you continue to use this drug you can cause a massive psychological conflict ion(one part of you says do it, the other part says dont -cognitive dissonance) which will continue to increase the adverse affects of the drug your using. You will likely become more paranoid and anxious and this will result in drug induced psychosis (very scary to experience). Continued use will exasperation these symptoms to the extent they will become so intense that you will have to stop because your scared your going to go insane.

Either stop using. Or try to eliminate the activity you engage in that make you want to use the drug most.

Good luck
 
Man, I get these 4 gram jars at my local headshop. I only like to smoke a little bit of this stuff because it's so easy to overdose, even .1 gram is enough to have me flying for 30 minutes. :)
 
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