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The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCP Thread (Part 1)

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Hey transform, have you noted much difference in effect or potency via different ROAs? The only ones I'd be considering would be oral & nasal. Possibly vaporized or impregnated on something smokable, but I'll probably save that til I'm a bit more comfortable with it.
 
I think I've only ever taken it sublingually to be honest (3 times?), probably swallow a little early.

It leaves the mouth slightly numb but with a peculiar and pleasant "freshness" to it.
 
I've sniffed, plugged and IM'ed it (once).

IM knocked me out :) I think it must have been a rather large dose :D Can't remember much :|

Sniffing and plugging seem comparable. They both take effect quickly (first alert within 5 mins) and have good bio-availability. I try to avoid using my nose though as it makes me sneeze after three or four bumps (~10mg).

So if you're OK snorting it, carry on, I can't imagine eating it being more effective... but plugging is IMO the best in terms of convenience and effectiveness :)
 
I recently went through 250 mgs in 10 days of daily use (i know, i know...), starting with sublingual, then shifting to "gumrubbing", as it caused less salivating, and speaking was also easier. I tried snorting, but found sublingual a bit more euphoric. Takes about 1 hour to peak, so careful with redosing.

A few qualities that i think make 3-meo-pcp outstanding:

-versatile: low doses are very manageable in everyday situations, higher doses make for interesting times, wether alone or partying.
-lucid: very clear headspace, if you don't push it, or then you enter a dissociated confused space, familiar to k users.
-clean: always felt light on the body, and never interfered with bodily functions. Mind you i eat drink and sleep healthy.
-stimulant without being pushy: normal heartbeat, no anxiety, and a porn actor's dream drug: very hard and slightly numb, wonderful for threesomes.
-reasonably fiendish: i am very fiendish with MXE, but this one never nagged at me as soon as i woke up. It's been a week since that 10 day binge, and no craving whatsoever. Of course i went everyday through those 250 mgs, but that was decided beforehand as a last treat before a few months drug free.
-slow tolerance: even in the last days of that binge, i was amazed by how little i needed.

As you guessed, more than once i found myself thinking "oh what a won-der-ful drug".

I combined with quite a bit of alcohol at concerts. Bear in mind, i am not a sloppy drinker, and never drink-til-drop-doing-stupid-shit. Sloppy drinkers, please steer clear from this combo or it will get messy. This made for a few hours of craaazy dancing. But it couldn't "cheat" my normal physical limits once i was tired, which i appreciated.

Sleeping has to wait at least 6 hours from last dose, and since i don't like staying restless in bed, i just pop an etizolam wich works its usual wonder.

Apart from the downsides that can be associated with any drug use, this one stands out in retrospect: the typical disso delusion, which can make decision making a bit tricky sometimes =D

I did feel very tired the first couple days after stopping, and would have gladly took a few days off to sleep through the morning.
 
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I recently went through 250 mgs in 10 days of daily use (i know, i know...), starting with sublingual, then shifting to "gumrubbing", as it caused less salivating, and speaking was also easier. I tried snorting, but found sublingual a bit more euphoric. Takes about 1 hour to peak, so careful with redosing.
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I was just going to say I was reading through these quickly and people are talking about all of these methods of ingestion... sublingual and holding it between your cheeks is by far the most effective way to use this particular compound. You can take as little as 5mgs and you're good (no/little tolerance). The effects come on quicker than any other method. And you can use far less and get the desired effects and have more control over the experience as it comes on fairly quickly for a compound you take sublingually and you can always use more if you're not where you want to be in 10 minutes.

I'm surprised there aren't more people saying this is more effective than IM/IV/insufflation. (I have no idea about plugging).
 
Wow, what a blissful compound! We tried small doses (insufflated) yesterday, like ~5 mg for me and ~8 for my buddy (as he was craving I gave him the bigger line ;)), which was already pleasantly stimulating, mind-cleansing, and a bit numbing. He compared it to speed, which I feel had quite some sense to it. We couldn't resist after doing the initial dose and snorted the whole 25 mg of material I had on me, over the evening, and man- it was one of the more pleasant drugs I've tried, even challenging amphetamine and mephedrone in the mood lifting qualities I would say (not on the euphoric side though). Can see how this could be potentially very! addictive if repeated too often (and foreseeing this I only ordered 50 mg for now ;)).

I read some people relating this experience to DXM, so I wonder what wonders does it work with higher doses, but I suppose it would be a much more tranquil and undisturbed feeling than dex, judging from what I had. It gave me such beautiful feelings of improved calmness, peace and cleanness of mind and comfort (was also about the same for my friend, though he was maybe a bit more fucked up than me), with a mild, but not negligible stimulation, I can see how anybody would be tempted to redose it again and again until they run out.

Also my cognitive skills were left almost intact as opposed to even comparably low doses of DXM (I would say somewhere about 225-300 mg would compare well to that 11-12 mg of 3-MeO I did). I wouldn't say this RC is a "better" substance than ole' good robo, it's just the closest comparison material I can invoke- they're very different substances by their nature anyway and I already know I dig them both.

Wonder what this'll do to me in the 20+ mg range, so honestly I can say I caught a hook for making a habit of this substance (and I know I can be bit fiendy for dissociatives), as I'm pretty sure I'll be tempted to order a bigger quantity with next package. For now I'll try to do the other 25 mg I got with another person, sublingually, and for a single hit.
 
Finally got to try this one. I had multiple friends who are dissociative lovers tell me how great it was and that they preferred it to MXE (my favorite drug) so I had high expectations.

After my near-trainwreck a few weeks earlier with a crappy batch of MXE I decided to be extra cautious. I tried a 2mg tester, dose and a 4mg dose last week both which were pretty underwhelming.

Last night I took between 8-10mg and had a pretty nice experience. It basically just felt like a more stimulating, longer lasting and less disorienting version of MXE. I didn't to too much exciting. Decided to buy some beer, drank a few then went to a nearby park just to chill out (it was dark and raining). When I got home I took 1mg etizolam and (I think I) went to sleep pretty soon after although I have a bit of amnesia as I don't remember finishing all the beer and a few other things I did (nothing reckless/dangerous).

The most interesting thing is even after 6 beer and 1mg etizolam I woke up at 6:45am energized when I'm normally pretty nocturnal and sleep till noon when I can. I had a pretty productive day so far and considering I was feeling very lethargic and depressed last week it feels good.

The interesting thing is I can still taste it on my tongue and roof of my mouth. I've had that with ketamine before but generally not so long after. I read this compound can be reabsorbed a few times through the bladder which helps explain a lot as I still feel slight effects (+1) almost 24 hrs later.

With MXE the afterglow/anti-depressant effects are my favorite part and I think this has even greater potential in this area. In small amounts this could be better socially/recreationally than MXE too, but I don't think it's as utilitarian as MXE (it can be a party-drug, anti-depressant and deeply psychedelic etc.). I think redosing and higher doses could easily get out of hand with 3-MeO-PCP (mania etc.) so I plan to keep things in the low range.

Even though my experience is still quite limited I think by the time I'm finished the rest of the 100mg this could be one of my favorites. Unfortunately the price is prohibitive so MXE is likely to remain my primary substance of choice and this will be for special occasions when creative stimulation is desired.
 
I think redosing and higher doses could easily get out of hand with 3-MeO-PCP (mania etc.)
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Very true. I love this substance. It's most enjoyable and I agree wholeheartedly with those who said that sublingual is a most efficient and enjoyable to use it.

Also, I must reiterate the above quote. While 10mg sublingual can be a clear, euphoric, and manageable experience, one must exercise extreme caution when re-dosing.

Things can very quickly get overwhelming with re-doses, especially if you take 'top-up' bumps. This is a really powerful substance which can go from lucid and manageable to total psychotic confusion in a short time if overused.

Another thing to note: I have posted about combining this with MXE before a few times here on BL. Both of them together have given me both the best and worst dissociative highs of my life. The synergy between methoxetamine and 3-MeO-PCP is incredible when done carefully, and terrifying when done recklessly.

I think I made a post once where I compared the combo to being on a pristine topical island, wading into crystal clear water and just splashing about in a kind of light and carefree state of total euphoric abandon... and then wading out a little further and finding that the shallow waters suddenly drop off into a deep and dark underwater chasm where you have no bearings at all: can't tell up from down, don't know how to get back to the surface, forget what you are and where you came from.... very frightening.

Amazing substance which requires careful use and much respect.
 
^ i haven't had problem with redosing but a multiple day bindge got me as paranoid only as a i have been on sigma platoe(dxm) before. i was convinced the neigbours put a bomb in my radio while i was outside. fucking shit :D but up to 50mg a night(very high tolerance) is very smooth and enjoyable.

someone with more knowledge - could sigma receptor activity acount for paranoid delusions? as i have never experianced any type of paranoia on other dissociatives that don't have activity at those receptor sites...
 
Did a little bit to much of this yesterday, nothing awful but man i was preety damn high for awhile.

Felt pretty pointless to take large amounts of this, reminded me in a a cannanoid od sort of.


Anyway i will stick to lower doses in combination with psychs from now.


Anyone tried this with lsd,shrooms, 2ce or 4acodmt?
 
it went pretty well with 2c-c, very much like mxe + 2c-c but maybe a bit more "sober"
 
It felt like it had the same qualities as mxe regarding mixning with psychs, but i was just to wasted yesterday to even think about that.

i guess 2cc is good since its a short one, wouldnt want to take to much of this and then a long acting psych.

How about vaping some 3meo while already high on acid?
 
Is this one of those substances where something like 2,5mg can make a day and night difference in dosage? I was thinking of trying this substance for the first time this week and feel like 8mg sublingual might be a good dose. However with my scale the most accurate I will be will still be 2,5mg hit or miss I think...

So is there alot of difference between like 6mg and 10mg doses? Should I just borrow a more accurate scale to avoid unintentional overdosing?
 
Toz said:
Is this one of those substances where something like 2,5mg can make a day and night difference in dosage? I was thinking of trying this substance for the first time this week and feel like 8mg sublingual might be a good dose. However with my scale the most accurate I will be will still be 2,5mg hit or miss I think...

So is there alot of difference between like 6mg and 10mg doses? Should I just borrow a more accurate scale to avoid unintentional overdosing?
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It's very much down to tolerance, for me without tolerance I didn't feel 6mg but 8mg was pretty great. However don't worry, I don't think you're in "overdose" territory until you take upwards of 15mg without tolerance. I can happily take 25-30mg doses with a fair bit of tolerance and I wouldn't call it an OD. Your +/- 2.5mg scales should be OK for measuring this substance without danger.
 
I completely disagree - that's over 25% error and I would strongly recommend volumetric dosing.
 
:) fair enough, just reporting my experience.

I have volumetrically dosed the stuff exactly twice and I've gone through a few grams of the stuff. Sure it's 25% error but if 10mg is not an OD (my claim) and he shoots for 8, how can he OD?

I might have been getting weaker stuff though so sure, volumetric is definitely more controlled and therefore safer.
 
I'm not saying he will OD or even that it's particularly dangerous, it just seems foolish and knowing the exact dose is something that I'd recommend every time as a simple matter of principle.

I know some people are happy to eat unknown dose MDMA pills, smoke unlabelled "spice" products and take "bath salts" but I am most certainly not and I like to make it well known that people like myself exist, even if we mostly a quiet bunch!

I do agree there is a point where it's too much (I like to weigh cannabis to know how much I use) but when we are dealing with compounds which have doses under 100mg I certainly do not think it's a silly suggestion here.

Edit: Volumetric dosing of this is also much more in line with the bluelight's harm reduction focus :p
 
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Hey, I acknowledge you exist <3

=D

You're right, volumetric is the way to go if there's any doubt. Especially while exploring the substance as a novice.
 
I do liquid measurement with this material, and I feel like I can feel a +/- 2mg difference in dose, even with tolerance and dosing in the 20-25mg range. Could be placebo, but it's noticeable enough that if I were doing smaller doses under 10mg I wouldn't want to be measuring them on a milligram scale (and definitely not a 2mg scale).
 
A small update 3 days later.

The after effects lasted VERY long, smoking cannabis 24+hrs after the initial dose caused a strong effect and anxiety similar to smoking cannabis with MXE (which was relieved with etizolam).

I also noticed this had the strongest effect on sexual energy of anything I've ever taken. Mental desire was very strong and physically it was like I'd taken a PDE-5 inhibitor (the effect lasted 48+hrs, almost like Tadalafil). It makes me wonder if 3-MeO-PCP could actually be inhibiting PDE-5? Either way, I think it would be smart to avoid mixing with amyl nitrate (AKA "poppers", which can be deadly with PDE-5 inhibitors), just in case.

The anti-depressant effects to this seem to be even better than MXE for me. It's the longest lasting and most noticeable mood-lift since the first time I took MXE 2+ years ago. :)
 
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