MurphyClox
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I already asked this on a different board (like Bluelight much with a much darker tone
) but somehow I'm not satisfied with the given answers. My question:
Confusion about oral bioavailability of cocaine:
Just checked Wiki about the bioavailability of orally applied cocaine. The value given is similar (i.e. in the same range) to the intranasal route.
But: Cocaine contains 2 esters and the pH of our stomach will cleave at least the benzoylic one IMO. Also I remember to have read that cocaine undergoes an effective first-pass-effect. That would exclude the oral route as useful, because from the remaining amount that successfully passes through the stomach, nearly everything would get metabolized before it reaches the brain.
...Therefore my confusion! I always thought that plain swallowing cocaine is of no use.
???
Thx, Murph
Let me share with you some of the already given answers (to shorten the discussion here a bit)
In another thread here @Bluelight, Swilow stated that
YO Swilow! If you read those lines, plz tell how you came to this statement?
I was somehow convinced that oral coke is a huge waste of the expensive compound. Now I'm rather confused. Comments from the sapient section are welcome. Please help me out here.
Thank you very much!
Peace! Murphy

Confusion about oral bioavailability of cocaine:
Just checked Wiki about the bioavailability of orally applied cocaine. The value given is similar (i.e. in the same range) to the intranasal route.
But: Cocaine contains 2 esters and the pH of our stomach will cleave at least the benzoylic one IMO. Also I remember to have read that cocaine undergoes an effective first-pass-effect. That would exclude the oral route as useful, because from the remaining amount that successfully passes through the stomach, nearly everything would get metabolized before it reaches the brain.
...Therefore my confusion! I always thought that plain swallowing cocaine is of no use.
???
Thx, Murph
Let me share with you some of the already given answers (to shorten the discussion here a bit)
Agreed. The pH-catalyzed hydrolysis is probably not very effective. Probably...Vecktor said:I think it is absorbed faster than it is cleaved, so is still available. coca tea or coca wine are active, so I supose in the absence of an esterase the hydrolysis in acid is pretty slow, most chemical methods to effect this hydrolysis need strong acid and heat and an hour or so. basic hydrolysis would probably be faster..
OK, Longimanus seems to have answered my question. But for some reason (gut-feeling, sorry) I still have my doubts.Longimanus said:As for bioavailability:
Nasal mucosal versus gastrointestinal absorption of nasally administered cocaine.
Fattinger K, Benowitz NL, Jones RT, Verotta D.
Eur J Clin Pharmacol. 2000 Jul;56(4):305-10.
Abstract:
OBJECTIVE: Several xenobiotics, including cocaine, are dosed by the nasal route for systemic effects. The aim of this study was to estimate and compare cocaine input into the systemic circulation after oral and nasal dosing, and to determine the relevance of local absorption through the nasal mucosa. METHODS: Cocaine was administered to healthy volunteers through the intravenous, oral, and nasal routes. Cocaine serum concentrations were measured at frequent intervals. From these data, the gastrointestinal, nasal, and nasal mucosa input rate functions were determined using nonparametric, subject-specific population deconvolution. RESULTS: After oral dosing, cocaine input into systemic circulation increased slowly and peaked around 45 min after ingestion. The median systemic bioavailability after oral dosing was 33 %. After nasal dosing, drug input was substantial even during the first minute and showed two peaks at 10 min and 45 min after ingestion. Since the second peak after nasal dosing closely resembled drug input after oral administration, we hypothesized that, after nasal administration, a part of the dose is swallowed and thereafter absorbed gastrointestinally. The data from the sessions with nasal cocaine administration were reanalyzed assuming the same shape for gastrointestinal drug input as after oral dosing. The fraction absorbed through the nasal mucosa was estimated to be 19 % (95 % CI: 11-26% ). The fraction absorbed through the nasal mucosa contributed 31 % (95 % CI: 23-37% ) of total systemic cocaine exposure. CONCLUSIONS: Our data suggest that the main reason addicts prefer nasal to oral cocaine dosing is faster absorption, enhancing the subjective effects rather than higher bioavailability.
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So it looks like that 2/3 of the nasal cocaine is absorbed through the GIT.
In another thread here @Bluelight, Swilow stated that
taken from here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=394449Cocaine is largely destroyed in the stomach also.
YO Swilow! If you read those lines, plz tell how you came to this statement?
I was somehow convinced that oral coke is a huge waste of the expensive compound. Now I'm rather confused. Comments from the sapient section are welcome. Please help me out here.
Thank you very much!
Peace! Murphy