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Do you use condoms?

Well do you??

  • Not in a relationship and do not

    Votes: 34 13.1%
  • Not in a relationship and do

    Votes: 61 23.5%
  • In a relationship and do not

    Votes: 116 44.6%
  • In a relationship and do

    Votes: 49 18.8%

  • Total voters
    260
I'll just pretend to be a super-slut next time I feel like speaking authoritatively based on overall sexual experience if it pleases you. Like i said in my first post I'm...not shocked...but disheartened by the number of people that will risk their health even more then I do because it "feels better".

It's just helpful to grind the numbers and context of my experience into peoples heads to get across that if you're having sex outside of a relationship you really just don't know who you're fuckin, who they've fucked,and under what circumstances. You really can't trust anyone you don't live with and even if you do you're still taking a risk (the phone message you deleted wherein a wife told me all about how I was one of the many women that she found in her husbands calls list proved that point pretty well.)

I posted because I thought it might make people reconsider the risks for a little extra feeling and I posted to tell people that there are more options then just the standard thickness trojans from the drugstore.

I'd like to think I've been at least a little helpful in this thread. I'm sorry that when people try and call me out I react, turns out I'm human :)

Also, it's not "bragging". I dig what I do, but it wins me universal spite, hardly something to "brag" for. I point it out because it lends weight to what I have to say when I make a serious post, and it's kind of my expertise, so of course I'm going to talk about something I can relate to.
 
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xtcgrlatl how do you deal with HPV and Herpes? Neither are prevented by condoms and if you have been with 700+ people you have almost certainly contracted both.
 
You can read the "experiences with prostitutes" thread. STD risks were discussed at length. I've never shown any symptoms of anything and last time I was tested in the fall I was in the clear.

Therefore I don't do anything about them. There's not really anything to do except take preventative measures (while condoms don't prevent HPV and herpes they certainly lessen the risk) as does washing throughly with soap after you've been with someone. If you do contract them then there's nothing to be done except cope with it.

Strikes me as being kind of a silly question, especially since you followed it up with "you probably already have both".

So your answer is basically I "deal" with them by taking preventative measures and not caring until they actually impact me.

There, I took my turn, now you take yours, I think I see where you're going already but perhaps this is just me projecting my own maliciousness and tendency to asking baiting questions onto you.

So before you go again I'll remind you that it takes two to tango and everyone knows the risks.
 
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There was nothing malicious or anything in that question it was completely straight forward. Skin on skin contact spreads HPV and herpes and some staggering percentage of the adult population is infected. Condoms lessen the risk of course. I was simply curious and I'm actually astounded that you haven't contracted either - atleast those strains of HPV that have visible symptoms (many do not). 700 partners and given the odds it strikes me as statistically inevitable that you would have contracted both. I wasn't trying to be malicious that's just the reality of the situation.

Personally I have engaged in risky sex with and without condoms with 2 people and I was just completely checked out and came back negative for everything. It was foolish and I have learned a lot from my experience and I am very lucky. I'm now in a monogamous relationship and we've both been checked completely so I'm happy that I have nothing to worry about.

I really don't feel anything towards you or your profession and could care less what you do. I think its good that you take appropriate preventative measures for safety sake and good luck and continue being safe. Health is incredibly important.
 
Yes, always, relationship or none.

Once, they saved my life:
she told me about her HIV+ status
a month after we had sex.

Since then, no exceptions. Period.
 
xtcgrlatl said:
I'll just pretend to be a super-slut next time I feel like speaking authoritatively based on overall sexual experience if it pleases you. Like i said in my first post I'm...not shocked...but disheartened by the number of people that will risk their health even more then I do because it "feels better".

It's just helpful to grind the numbers and context of my experience into peoples heads to get across that if you're having sex outside of a relationship you really just don't know who you're fuckin, who they've fucked,and under what circumstances. You really can't trust anyone you don't live with and even if you do you're still taking a risk (the phone message you deleted wherein a wife told me all about how I was one of the many women that she found in her husbands calls list proved that point pretty well.)

I posted because I thought it might make people reconsider the risks for a little extra feeling and I posted to tell people that there are more options then just the standard thickness trojans from the drugstore.

I'd like to think I've been at least a little helpful in this thread. I'm sorry that when people try and call me out I react, turns out I'm human :)

Also, it's not "bragging". I dig what I do, but it wins me universal spite, hardly something to "brag" for. I point it out because it lends weight to what I have to say when I make a serious post, and it's kind of my expertise, so of course I'm going to talk about something I can relate to.

Not trying to restrict your speech, and perhaps I was being a bit harsh in categorizing your tone as "bragging". I do not have any spite for sex workers; as I've said before, everyone who works is a prostitute in one way or another.

I'm reasonably sure you are indeed a prostitute.

I did not "delete" your post containing the audio file. I did remove it from public view to protect the privacy of people who aren't here to defend themselves. Note that there are no warnings associated with your posts. One of the routine duties of a moderator is to remove off-topic posts.

I am glad that there are people like you in the world's oldest profession that are concerned about the safety of self and others. I've read some other message boards where there are sex workers who charge higher prices for barebacking... eek.

That is all.

ETA: I have now removed two posts that are "calling bullshit" on xtcgrlatl. Please, everyone, the topic here is CONDOMS. If you have any doubts about xtcatlgrl's integrity, please take that up with her via PM, or take my word for it that I believe her.
 
I <3 xtcgrlatl! :)

Risks come with the job.

F*ck money, f*cking money, f*ck 4 money, who really enjoys their job?

BJ, HJ or whatever?

Wear a condom, seriously, keep u'rself pure! :)

I always inspect the meat, ask if I need protection and have given up my slutty ways. I also ordered that $15 at home HIV test.
 
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aanallein said:
There was nothing malicious or anything in that question it was completely straight forward .

Then I apologize for the negative tone of my reply but will point out that when you say "you've almost certainly already got them" it puts a very negative spin on the question that feels a bit baiting.

I'm not the model of playing safe by any means but that doesn't mean I can't advocate it.

I'm like one of those people that ask me for a cigarette and then when I say "I don't smoke" They say "Don't start!"

But it's good that we got on this topic because beyond condoms cleaning your genital area with antibacterial soap ASAP after sexual contact with someone you dont really know the STD status of can get the HPV and herpes viruses off your skin before they have time to do their thing and the antibacterial properties might help with some of the more common bacterially based STD's.

Also if you do oral or hell, even if you're making out, rinse your mouth out with mouthwash. I tend to use mouthwash, then hydrogen peroxide mixed with water, then mouthwash again.


I dont know if thats actually anymore effective then simply doing mouthwash one time, but it makes me feel better so I do it anyways.
 
^ sorry I'm just a math person so statistically speaking you are outrageously lucky if you haven't been infected with Herpes or any of the many strains of HPV.

who really enjoys their job?

I love my job actually.
 
^^Lucky you! :)

All valid points raised in the last few posts. Does anyone know of any studies on any lessening of risk for HPV or genital herpes when the carrier partner washes him or herself with antibacterial soap, and the non-carrier partner has a lessened risk of getting an STD as a result? HPV and genital herpes are both viruses, not bacteria. xtcatlgrl, you addressed this in part (well, I might add) but would you be able to back that up with any studies or other evidence? Also, check your PMs in a few... I have an idea as to how you can share your experiences in a Q & A session with the many BLers who are curious about your lifestyle, and that would be in SLR, legit questions. I have a few points of curiosity and some things I'd like to ask you. :)
 
To be honest most of my stay safe info comes from private "providers only" boards. Where we can warn eachother about bad clients and just generally talk about the business. Some of the girls strike me as dumb but a lot of them seem quite intelligent, many of them are college grads or in college.

Some of them have been escorting for 10 years and claim to be clean so far so even if their advice is hearsay I still adopt the parts of it that seem reasonable to me.

IE a couple weeks ago a girl posted an email from a client who admitted he had HPV and wanted to know if she would still see him. She of course laughed it off and posted his email on the providers board and at some point a provider who seemed to know what she was talking about posted about how she felt it was trashy of the OP to post his email since he was honest up front and that she would probably have seen him and taken precautions like having him wash the contact areas thoroughly before getting started to minimize the viral load that was already on his skin, and then as soon as the session was over she cleans herself off thoroughly.

She seemed very confident that she could see him without to much risk of contracting HPV herself and since she came off so level headed I assume she had some basis for her position.

Take it for what it is. A bit of hearsay. Maybe it's just so we can sleep better at night without freaking out over every little itch and raw spot. But it made sense and i figure it can't hurt.
 
xtcgrlatl said:
I'll just pretend to be a super-slut next time I feel like speaking authoritatively based on overall sexual experience if it pleases you. Like i said in my first post I'm...not shocked...but disheartened by the number of people that will risk their health even more then I do because it "feels better".

It's just helpful to grind the numbers and context of my experience into peoples heads to get across that if you're having sex outside of a relationship you really just don't know who you're fuckin, who they've fucked,and under what circumstances. You really can't trust anyone you don't live with and even if you do you're still taking a risk (the phone message you deleted wherein a wife told me all about how I was one of the many women that she found in her husbands calls list proved that point pretty well.)

I posted because I thought it might make people reconsider the risks for a little extra feeling and I posted to tell people that there are more options then just the standard thickness trojans from the drugstore.

I'd like to think I've been at least a little helpful in this thread. I'm sorry that when people try and call me out I react, turns out I'm human :)

Also, it's not "bragging". I dig what I do, but it wins me universal spite, hardly something to "brag" for. I point it out because it lends weight to what I have to say when I make a serious post, and it's kind of my expertise, so of course I'm going to talk about something I can relate to.

Personally, I find the information you have taken the time to share here to be interesting and worth consideration. I'm not sure why it's a problem for you to discuss your career openly, here - we discuss all sorts of other stuff at BL that's not legal in a given jurisdiction. However, that's more of a call for the mods of this section and I make the comment here only as a personal opinion - no disrespect intended. It's just that diversity of background and experience almost always adds value to discussions, and if we push out those with diverse lifestyles, we lose that.

About the only thing I can say is that, while you've had a few condoms break while your partners were wearing them. . . I've actually had two burst. Turns out they can get over-filled, especially up at the top near the little ring that goes around the open end. That's about my only relevant addition to this tread (and I did mis-post here earlier, re partner counts - apologies, not something I normally do :\ ).

Peace,

Fausty
 
^^Xtcgrlatl and I have PMed about her contributions (which have merit), and she's well invited to participate how she chooses. If you want to start a Q&A thread as I suggested xtcgrlatl did about your own lifestyle... we can go there.

:)

My own condom errors: I am sensitive to latex so I have to use polyurethane. The damn things slide off like crazy and it wasn't a viable method for my (mutually monogamous) partner and me. So I got an IUD. Before that, I had some difficulties with latex condoms so I had to switch to polyurethane. They're much more expensive and yep, they slip. We weren't comfortable with that and we have both been tested clean. We gave them up and now I'm kind of a cyborg, but I won't get pregnant before we're ready. :)

Condoms, in non-monogamous relationships or casual sex (nothing wrong with either, I've done it ;)) should be mandatory. No, they don't protect against everything, but they definitely reduce risk.
 
Do you suppose polyurethane condoms would be better held in place by the addition of a rubber cock ring?

As I posted they were far from "one size fit all" and also seemed eager to slip off in my only experience with them, but the guy that brought them raved about how much more he liked them then traditional latex condoms because they transfered feeling better.
 
Mariposa said:
My own condom errors: I am sensitive to latex so I have to use polyurethane. The damn things slide off like crazy and it wasn't a viable method for my (mutually monogamous) partner and me. So I got an IUD. Before that, I had some difficulties with latex condoms so I had to switch to polyurethane. They're much more expensive and yep, they slip. We weren't comfortable with that and we have both been tested clean. We gave them up and now I'm kind of a cyborg, but I won't get pregnant before we're ready. :)

Condoms, in non-monogamous relationships or casual sex (nothing wrong with either, I've done it ;)) should be mandatory. No, they don't protect against everything, but they definitely reduce risk.
You're lucky you can find polyurethane. Everytime I try to find them they aren't available. Only way to get them would be to order them online and most of the time with s/h would spend about $5 for one condom.

Considering I get tested a LOT and in my group of friends (only people I sleep with when not in a relationship) as soon as someone gets a positive test (always either claymidia or gonarreha) everyone knows, tests themselves again and doesn't sleep with the one person until they have gotten a clean bill, as well as in a relationship I don't until we both have gotten tested I generally slide on using the latex things that put me in welts, lobster red, and swell up.
 
I'd choose cumming in her throat, or cumming my initials all over her tits while she massages my huge cum-filled balls with Astroglide soaked beautiful hands, while I take care of The Cock and her clit (and her g-spot once my second of six hands is free).

WAY more than in a condom.

Sex is one of my very favorite experiences in this beautiful life.

But to me, condom-sex doesn't even qualify as "sex."

To me.

One night stands = settle for getting each other off without risking pregnancy or disease.

Relationship/Fuck-Buddies/Etc. = honest communication, and, IF IT MAKES SENSE TO DO SO, then

(1) Mutual STD tests
(2) The Pill
(3) Complete Honesty Regarding Anything That Might Put The Other One At Risk

Thems my rules.

They keep me happy.
 
If you are with me then you are using a condom 100% of the time. I do not want to get pregnant right now. I wasnt always like this, but after seeing a lot of my friends get pregnant, it has really scared me.
 
In a relationship and I do not use condoms because we are both clean and I use BC pills.... i however DO NOT LIKE BC Pills and what they do to my stomach (puke) and to my hormones (CRAZY BITCH)...

I plan on quitting BC Pills soon so I will soon have to switch to in a relationship using condoms...
 
^ You can look into the copper IUD. It is nonhormonal and more effective than hormonal birth control. Just a suggestion.
 
Used on once (loss of virginity moment) and it put me off for life. Never again. One advantage of junkydom is the regular testing for all kinds of nasties :\. Never had any STIs and never intend to. It sounds more reckless than it is. I've never really (well, once or twice) done the one night stand thing - I'm more of a longish-term relationship kinda guy when such things are less important, so it works out okay for me :).
 
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